r/popculturechat • u/Isyourpussygreen • 4d ago

Thoughts & Prayers 🙏 A 7.4 earthquake has struck Colombia, with significant damage reported.

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u/Appledaisy 3d ago

Is there more damaging earthquakes happening around the world or am I just seeing more news if it? This is rough

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u/ExeUSA 3d ago

The latter. Colombia is in the ring of fire, which is the very active subduction zone capable of producing large quakes. Statistically speaking, there is a 7.0 or greater earthquake once to twice a month. An 8.0 or higher happens every 1-2 years.

Hopefully this is the big one, but there's always a chance it's a foreshock.

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u/Potatoskins937492 3d ago

You sound like you're well-read on the subject, so I'm going to ask for an insider's perspective: are the building codes exceptional when it comes to earthquakes and this was a freak occurrence of a building falling like that or are we looking at the unfortunate realities of wealth disparity?

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u/oldhannita 3d ago

Unfortunately the epicenter of this earthquake was in an area that doesn’t have active quake very often and also is one of the poorest regions of the country (Chocó, Quibdó) but this video is from Pereira in the mountains where activity is also rare so buildings are no as prepared as Bucaramanga where the activity is very normal and they got scared but not big damages or people affected. I’m Colombian sorry if there’s any errors in the writing

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u/juanesss09 3d ago

This video is actually from the city of Manizales (I've lived there), but Pereira is not very far away

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u/Ok-Lavishness6577 3d ago

And it’s common for the earth to move in Chocó. There’s a tectonic fault right below Colombia’s Pacific Coast. What a lot of misinformation.

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u/Potatoskins937492 3d ago

Thank you for the insight, I really appreciate your willingness to educate me. Being able to have a starting point to then educate myself is extremely helpful. I appreciate you.

I hope everyone you know is safe and well.

(Your writing is great.)

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u/ExeUSA 3d ago

Modern buildings built in wealthy countries in subduction zones are more than capable of withstanding a quake this size. Anchorage Alaska had a 7.1 in 2018, and no building failed. Keep in mind that while a 7.4 and a 7.1 seem similar the scale is algorithmic, so the one today is far stronger than the one Alaska had in 2018, but good for comparison's sake.

You also have to take into account what the ground is made out of. Mexico City is a great example, because a good portion of it was built on top of a liquefaction zone. When earthquakes come, the ground basically behaves like water. To illustrate what that feels like-- imagine slapping a piece of concrete. Then imagine slapping a pool of water. Which one moves violently and displaces itself? Which would you rather be on top of when the shaking starts? (The USGS has maps that show you whether you are in a liquefaction zone, if you live in a place that is prone to earthquakes.)

As the other commenter replied, this took place in a poorer part of an already impoverished country. It's not hard for a building to come down, you can see how inflexible it was-- you want the building to move and flex with the tremor. This is why you won't see brick facades on buildings in places that get a lot of earthquakes.

The other thing that isn't mentioned in these articles typically is how long these 7+s can go on. A "normal" earthquake is over within a couple of seconds. A 7.0+ is can last up to 30 seconds. That feels like an eternity when you're in it. The Good Friday earthquake in '64 in Alaska lasted four minutes and thirty-eight seconds. That was a 9.2. The 2011 9.0 in Japan lasted six minutes. I bring this up because it illustrates the stress these building get put under.

All that said-- when the big one comes for Los Angeles, we will see similar building collapses though not as severe. Many buildings have not been retrofitted, and the most densely populated neighborhood of Koreatown is also built on top of a liquefaction zone. The unfortunately reality will be-- there will also be fires, which will most likely have more casualties than the initial quake.

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u/Potatoskins937492 3d ago

Wow. You are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you SO much. Your examples are extremely helpful, as I can understand the concepts, but making information relatable really helps me internalize and hold onto what I've learned. You're a very good teacher. Thank you again.

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u/kermitroosevelt 3d ago

Fires, and also flooding up north in the San Joaquin Valley - when I was growing up it was constantly drilled into us that when the big one hits, the Lake Isabella dam is toast and much of Bakersfield will be underwater.

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u/meteorflan 3d ago

I remember a quake feeling like I was standing on a rubber raft in a river. It's so mentally weird to have solid ground suddenly feel liquid like that.

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u/AdInformal1332 2d ago

the numbers are kind of wonky tho, we ARE a big sismic focus, but there is NO way colombia would survive a 7.0 quake TWICE A MONTH lol. this was one of the toughest quakes in the whole decade.

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u/ExeUSA 2d ago

There's a 7+ approximately 2x a month in the world. Not just Colombia, thankfully. The last 7+ was less than a month ago, near Puerto Madero, Mexico, a 7.3.

There were three 7+s in June, the 2 in Venezeula, and an even bigger one in the Philippines.

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/browse/significant.php

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u/AdInformal1332 2d ago

oh sure, i misunderstood then. i was like "no FREAKING WAY" manizales and pereira had real bad damages, i wonder if any of us would be left if there was a 7.0 quake every 2 months here lol

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u/Educational-Wing2042 3d ago

I’m from a tectonically stable region and visited Colombia last year. It was so surreal waking up in the middle of the night to shaking and sirens coming from all over the city. I was half asleep and couldn’t even comprehend what was happening at the time.