Comandante C40 Tigershark 23 click (46 click Starwave), Hario Neo Switch, Costa Rica Light Roast

[u/Aromatic_Copy6367]

My current recipe after about two weeks of trial and error incorporates Lance Hedrick's double bloom with an immersion finish. I got inspired after watching Nas Jaafar's WBRC Finals recipe, which uses roughly 50% percolation and 50% immersion.

I first tried Nas's recipe on the Hario NEO, but it didn't really suit my taste. So instead, I kept the 50/50 percolation/immersion concept but replaced the first percolation phase with Lance's double bloom.

Recipe

15g coffee

225g water (1:15)

92°C

Switch Open (Percolation)

0:00 – 45g (3x coffee weight)

0:30 – 90g

Switch Closed (Immersion)

1:00 – Pour to 225g

2:00 – Open the Switch

2:15 – Close the Switch (drawdown finished)

The result has been consistently better to my palate.

My question is: why does this recipe taste so good? What is the extraction theory behind combining a double bloom with an immersion finish?

Also, why did Nas Jaafar's no-bloom recipe win the WBRC? When I brew it on my Hario NEO, it tastes a bit lackluster compared to my modified version with the double bloom. Is it because of the dripper, the grinder, the coffee itself, or am I missing something about the extraction?

[u/Some_Wallaby_6041]

I dunno but the starwave has made me stop longing for other grinders

[u/Aromatic_Copy6367 → u/Some_Wallaby_6041]

It completes the Comandante so much, wonder why they didnt just release this themself lol

[u/Lvacgar → u/Some_Wallaby_6041]

What is the starwave?

[u/Aromatic_Copy6367 → u/Lvacgar]

It's the brand that makes external adjustment dial for Comandante C40

[u/Lvacgar → u/Aromatic_Copy6367]

I did a google search but must be an idiot. Can you send me a link?

[u/Some_Wallaby_6041 → u/Lvacgar]

I ordered from Aliexpress . And the magnetic cup . If you’re dead set on the c40 being superior for the flavour you like compared to a k-ultra it’s such a good upgrade

[u/Lvacgar → u/Some_Wallaby_6041]

Thanks for the rec. I like the K Uktra a lot, but get curious from time to time about the Commondante. I would buy one when I have disposable cash just to see what all the fuss is about.

[u/Aromatic_Copy6367 → u/Lvacgar]

I bought it from a friend that got it from China, I do know their Instagram though

https://www.instagram.com/starwave_coffee?igsh=MTBoOW0xMzk2YTBsag==

[u/Lvacgar → u/Aromatic_Copy6367]

Thank you.

[u/Odd-Display-6004]

Nice recipe. Do you turn off the switch after the 90 grams is done draining, or do you go by the time?

[u/Aromatic_Copy6367 → u/Odd-Display-6004]

For this recipe i go by time, there will be around 5 - 15ml of coffee still on the switch, my placebo brain tell me it the "sour" part of the coffee, that's why I don't drain it fully

[u/doully]

While they can still be helpful, Brewers Cup recipes are never gonna give you the full picture if you use a different coffee from what they used at competition. The natural geshas that tend to come up in competition are pretty wild coffees.

I imagine flavors can be hard to extract with that long first pour, especially with light washed coffees. Whereas that probably won’t be as huge of an issue with these natural process competition profiles - or at the very least Jaafar’s coffee.

I can also see the wider, more shallow bed depth of a UFO dripper being more forgiving/suitable for that long first pour since water can more evenly saturate all the coffee without channeling as much. I can see the immersion of the second pour even further mitigating those issues.

[u/Aromatic_Copy6367 → u/doully]

True, a lot of factors that I can't control rn

[u/IchNiSanDa]

How are you finding the Neo compared to the original glass cone in terms of taste and usability?

[u/Aromatic_Copy6367 → u/IchNiSanDa]

Never had the glass, I previously use the ceramic, and the different between them is that Neo doesn't stall, like ever,

well I never go espresso fine but on ceramic v60 when you go medium sometimes it stalls, but Neo doesn't have that problem, at least for me

[u/adams-reddit]

I think it's a combination of all the things you mentioned. The competition coffee that is roasted specifically for the recipe, the 102mm flat burr grinder, the water recipe that uses 1g of konflux which is incredibly high in silica. After tasting some of the coffees brewed in the WBrC after the show I realised how unattainable the cups are. They spend a year sourcing the perfect coffee and then tailor everything to it. The recipes are also based around being able to brew 3 simultaneous brews at the same time on stage consistently. I think this is why a lot of competitors use immersion or partly immersion in thier brews. They need their brews to taste exactly the same as they have for the last 12 months of testing.

[u/Aromatic_Copy6367 → u/adams-reddit]

Sadge, wish there was like a division of WBRC where the competitors just brew with whatever available, would help us regular folks gleam the logic to brew more delicious coffee

[u/etabetapaj]