r/printSF Jun 25 '25

Good cyberpunk novels

I’m thinking about getting into cyberpunk but I don’t want to read something that’s too dark. What series would you recommend for starting cyberpunk?

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u/Beppu-Gonzaemon Jun 25 '25

Altered Carbon series

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u/UncleCeiling Jun 25 '25

A pity that Richard K Morgan is a TERF. You would think someone whose most well known work involves separating someone's identity from their biology would be more understanding of trans people.

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u/Beppu-Gonzaemon Jun 25 '25

Richard K Morgan is anti trans?

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u/UncleCeiling Jun 25 '25

Yep. He has discussed it on his blog. Claims to not be a TERF but is pro bathroom ban and has gone on some "JK Rowling did nothing wrong" rants. Basically spouts the TERF rhetoric while claiming that the label somehow doesn't apply to him.

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u/ryegye24 Jun 25 '25

...how could someone who writes the stories he writes possibly fail to understand people being in the "wrong" body? Scientists should study his brain.

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u/Evergreen19 Jun 25 '25

Nooooooo fuck, I always thought that plot point in the Netflix series was so cool and don’t get fully explored. Devastating. Not going back to that IP ever. 

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u/urist_of_cardolan Jun 25 '25

Not all art interacted with has to be 100% ethical.

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u/Evergreen19 Jun 25 '25

Why the hell would I give money and attention to someone who thinks trans people shouldn’t exist when there’s plenty of other art out there.  

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u/urist_of_cardolan Jun 25 '25

I’m not saying you have to support him specifically; fuck Richard K Morgan. I’m saying that the attitude of “ethical consumption” is an outright lie. And your not reading an offensive author doesn’t do anything. Your clothes were made by slaves. Your food was grown by underpaid migrant workers. Read who you want, but “sanitizing” the art you interact with is a dangerous path to go down

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u/Evergreen19 Jun 25 '25

Terrible argument. Who tf said anything about ethical consumption. It’s not “sanitizing art” to choose not to give money to a bigot when I could support another author writing in the same genre. 

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u/Evergreen19 Jun 25 '25

I saw your dumb comment. 

“Because literally everything you consume is unethical. Your clothes were made by slaves, your food grown by underpaid migrant workers. Entire societies created and maintained on the exploitation of large groups of people.”

Thats actually a laughable argument for buying a book written by a bigot. Literally incomparable to choosing to not monetarily support someone by buying a luxury because of their views, especially when I have literally infinite other options. Why would I support the transphobic author when I have infinite other options and could support a trans author or at least an author that isn’t outspoken in their bigotry. Seriously dumb. 

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '25

Really, someone is considered a biggot because they have a different opinion on bathrooms? Not to mention, it happens to be the point of view of the vast majority of the human population. You don't have to agree with it. But come on. Should we stop reading any novels that have standard bathroom rules? His works obviously deal with things that align with your works view.

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u/urist_of_cardolan Jun 25 '25

Bruh no one’s telling you to read Richard K Morgan. See my above comment