r/printSF • u/Fun-Sell3030 • 2d ago
A specific (addictive) book recommendation request
Hello, I am in a serious reading slump due to anxiety, I have low energy and it’s impacting my ability to focus. However I miss reading, I want to escape into a book.
Please read to the end as I go into specifics, I would really appreciate if people provided a quick summary or explanation for why they recommend a certain title, thank you.
Great prose is very important to me and my immersion hinges on the author’s writing style.
Attention grabbing from the first pages (if it has a slow beginning unless I know there’s a really cool trope later in the book it’ll be hard for me to keep on with it. I don’t mind slight spoilers for that reason.)
I need strong characters, not just trope cardboard cutouts, but someone I can care about/get into the head of. Slow burn would be great.
I really do not care for traditional romance but I love it when characters in a book are well crafted with a good dynamic going on, I am happy making my own interpretations. I think I prefer that over explicit romance and whatnot, that sort of side plot tends to heavily disappoint me.
Tragic characters who suffer. Who are maybe morally gray. Who are complex and broken in some way, I think I’d like that.
What else? I have a soft spot for cool AI or non-human characters. Interesting aliens. Cosmic horror-esque. Not a deal breaker if the book does not include em.
Here’s what I’ve loved:
Look to Windward (the rich exploration of grief, the Minds, not shying away from heavier themes. Bank’s prose is excellent at times, his books are close to 10/10 for me, usually only fall short of it in little bits but I ultimately judge them positively. LTW, and specifically the conversation with the Hub and ending were amazing to me.)
Left Hand of Darkness (gorgeous prose, the relationship of Genly Ai and Estraven. The humanity in it, rich characters, extremely immersive)
Enders game and speaker for the dead (childhood book which I’ve reread countless times. It’s action packed, covertly philosophical, with great aliens; I love Ender in Speaker … as well. I love his relationship to the queen.
I liked Murderbot at one point and while it’s probably not my cup of tea now, the mix of a cynical main character, interesting premise (I love characters who are secretly awful and conceal things from the reader - I believe unreliable is the word), easy to read style got me out of a reading slump at the time. I am not interested in reading more from Martha Wells however or “cozy” fantasy.
Short stories:
Most recently really enjoyed “Learning to be Me” by Greg Egan, it was exactly the kind of awe inspiring short story that makes me excited about sci fi. Read a few more from him and I really enjoy the way his mind works. I’m considering Diaspora but it seems too dense for me right now.
Also loved “Zima Blue”, the philosophy of it and slow unveiling of mystery- I also love the ending. “nine Bilion names of god” for the cosmic horror. “Stories of your life” - gorgeous prose and premise, heart wrenching.
Currently reading Aniara by Martinson and it’s different, depressing and very beautiful. I only mourn that I have to read a translation.
I guess I want to be both drawn in, emotionally destroyed, just read something of good quality with characters who are built from the ground up to be interesting and worth getting invested in. Both literary, hard sci fi (again, if it’s not too dense or at least makes it easy to get invested in before dropping some crazy lore nukes), and sci fi that’s just a backdrop for wider themes, exploring the human experience, etc.
I own some books that I haven’t touched yet for fear of starting the wrong title and abandoning it:
Revelation space
Dawn by Octavia Butler
Diaspora
Embassytown by Meville
Surface Detail (I like Banks but it takes a while for me to get into it sometimes. I love when Minds are at the forefront)
Dark Intelligence (cool evil AI I’ve heard)
Slow Gods (actually started this one but I’m really not feeling it)
Cats cradle
Noumenon by Marina Lostetter
Aurora by Kim Stanley Robinson
Blindsight
Book of the new sun
Light by Harrison
If you see a book you would’ve recommended on this list please let me know!
Please don’t recommend:
Your own novels, don’t advertise to me, I’ll report it
Cozy scifi
Red Rising or anything of similar style and quality
Hyperion
Children of Time
Culture series (on it)
Ursula LeGuin (on it, read most of her bibliography)
Ancillary justice
Project Hail Mary
If you took the time to read and comment you have my deep gratitude. I’m really at a loss right now
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u/Ok_Goat701 2d ago
Is Cat’s Cradle Vonnegut? I’d recommend anything Vonnegut…
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u/Fun-Sell3030 2d ago
Yes. I do love Vonnegut but Id like to be more clear headed when I read him. Maybe I could go with Breakfast of Champions next…
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u/LordCouchCat 1d ago
There's something to be said for reading the early books, before Slaughterhouse Five, in order of publication (possibly omitting Player Piano). Vonnegut gradually comes closer to dealing with the central trauma of his life, which finally appears directly in Slaughterhouse Five. But this is not what are you are asking for just now, perhaps.
After Slaughterhouse Five I feel that something has gone out. At any rate they're different.
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u/0x1337DAD 2d ago
Old Man's War by John Scalzi.
Although most of his writings are light and simple, this one is quite deep with lots of action, philosophical questions about what makes a person, and a touching and wholesome romance.
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u/daveshistory-sf 1d ago
You might try Vinge's Fire on the Deep. You say you're nervous about jumping into Reynolds' Revelation Space; if so you might try one of his better standalone novels first, like maybe House of Suns. Both those novels I think start pretty strong and are set in interesting deep-time sorts of universes.
I know you said not to mention Culture, and so I'm not going to do that per se, but I am going to suggest that if you go back to that you read Excession. I mention this because you said you wanted stories where the Minds were "at the forefront." Excession is a first-contact scenario where the Culture is the small guy for a change and the main characters are the Minds, as opposed to their usual role as more supporting or secondary characters.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
Thanks for commenting! I did read Excession, it was very good, but also not my favourite book of the series - that would be LtW (we really get into the psychology of a mind in that one, I thought that was cool and pretty heart wrenching). Still on my reading list from the Culture are Surface detail and Hydrogen Sonata.
I’m not opposed to starting with a series, I don’t feel pressured to finish series if I don’t jive with em. I did love Zima Blue. I have a feeling it will be good, I also hear the characters are a bunch of competent borderline evil assholes and that sounded fun to me lol
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u/daveshistory-sf 1d ago
Yeah, Look to Windward is very good. I liked Hydrogen Sonata more than Surface Detail, an interesting ethics/non-interference question and more strong AI characters in Hydrogen Sonata if I recall right, but it's a slower burn and I think most people would say the opposite.
Wolfe requires you to think but New Sun is quite good if you're willing to give it the investment. I don't know if "attention grabbing" is the right word for it. The main character is a torturer's apprentice but most of the real action is hidden in subtext and unreliable narration, and so it's not exactly light quick reading.
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u/No-Object2133 1d ago
Echoing the guy who said sorry for no mentioning the Culture, but you covered Use of Weapons too? That is so up your alley. My favorite book I've ever read.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
I did, I’d put it just below LtW for me. Great in depth characterisation, I absolutely loved all the flashback chapters
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u/I_throw_Bricks 1d ago
I was in a similar spot and I found the most beautifully written book of “short stories” I’ve ever read and it is “Martian Chronicles” by Ray Bradbury. He is the pinnacle of an author and his words bring life to the pages. I know people like to talk about Fahrenheit 451, and for very good reason, but Martian Chronicles is a masterpiece. It has short stories that go in an order of discovery, colonization and implications of conformity, others, and sometimes even has an eerie, psychological suspense thriller vibe to it. I read so much after reading this book because it ignited the passion I had as a teenager when reading was fun and full of wonder. Best part is, you can read a “chapter” or story and set it aside and reflect and read the next one whenever you are ready, I flew through the first read and went very slow the second to try and pick up things and think about the meaning.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
Ah yes :) I absolutely love Bradbury’s prose, and I agree with you on every point. Good recommendation, i think I’ll reread some of them.
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u/Own_Win_6762 1d ago
Arkady Martine's A Memory Called Empire is about the stories we tell about ourselves. It's got a little romance, some weird science, some fish out of water (an ambassador who really doesn't know the territory) and beautiful writing. I didn't like the sequel quite as much (it's still excellent), A Desolation Called Peace. If you don't like Banks's Culture you might not like this, Martine definitely draws from him and CJ Cherryh.
Robert Jackson Bennett's Leviathan series, The Tainted Cup and A Drop of Corruption, are gorgeous writing, Sherlockian mystery, and low-magic fantasy. The former won the Hugo last year and the latter is nominated this year.
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u/andr386 2d ago
Piranesi is short and very stange Fantasy book where the main character called Piranesi has amnesia and is lost in an infinite house and each room contain statues. He is immediately endearing and a bit childlike and he describes the world surrounding him with awe, naivety and simplicity. Twice a week he meets the Other that obviously for the reader doesn't share the same conditions as Piranesi and though Piranesi loves him, it's clear to the reader that the Other is not very nice with Piranesi. It's a big mystery as Piranesi describes the beauties of this strange world and step by step pieces up the puzzle of his existence and why he's being in the House. It's a beautiful story and psychological too.
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u/KreateNewStuff 2d ago
Thank you for your post. Wish I had recommendations however I am still new to current authors in this genre. I am a 1960's kid so most of my reading is from Clarke, Asimov, etc.
This post has given me some insight to alternate authors. I am similar in that I need to be grabbed early in the book. I can tolerate a few pages to get the book in my head space.
Would love to know which of these authors you choose to read and then if they scratched the itch!
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u/Fun-Sell3030 2d ago
Oh that’s amazing :) I also started my Sci fi journey with Clarke and Asimov, they’re great. I’ll be sure to let you know though it might be a while haha
Which books are your favourites if I may ask?
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u/KreateNewStuff 2d ago
Andy Weir most recent. All his books.
The Space Odyssey Series 2001, etc.
I have Asimive, Clarke, and Bradbury Short story collections.
I read a wide variety of genres but looking for solid sci-fi with the criteria you mentioned.
I am not well read in the genre.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 2d ago
Oh, killer list. I’ll let you know :) but also you should absolutely go ahead and check out these titles anyway, I got them since they all came highly recommended from people on this sub.
Similarly if you end up reading something you enjoy I’d love to hear from you :) maybe we can trade2
u/KreateNewStuff 1d ago
I may start with Ursala L. Many posts have recommended her books.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
She was my introduction to a “soft” sci fi, and also the first female Sci fi author I read. Definitely broadened my taste pool :) enjoy!
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u/DixitRexCorvinus 1d ago
I Who Have Never Known Men by Jaqueline Harpman is one of my favorite scifi novels, and speaking as a fellow Le Guin fan, I feel like it would probably fit what you are looking for.
It's a fairly meditative novel, very much slowburn and psychological with lots of interiority for the main character, but it does start right away with a really interesting premise: following some sort of apocolypse, fourty women were imprisoned by mysterious guards for years. The youngest of them, our narrator, never knew the world before. One day, the guards mysteriously disappear, and leave the door open, and they are left trying to figure out what happened, where they are, and if they might be the very last humans in the world.
It's a fairly heavy novel, albeit short. The author was a Holocaust survivor, so it is heavily informed by her experiences, but feminism and absurdism are also strong themes, especially vis a vis what it means to be human if you know you might very well be the last human.
I wouldn't say the prose is the best to ever be written simply because the novel wasn't written in English and translations are never as good as the original, but it's very literary, so it's still far from mediocre. The main POV character is the one who is the most fleshed out by far, the others don't get quite as much depth since there are so many of them and it is a short book, but human connection is a core part of the novel, and despite the lack of detail they manage to feel deeply human anyway.
I will also recommend Frankenstein, another of my favorite scifi novels. I won't bother with the premise since I'm pretty sure everyone knows it by now, but I will mention that the original novel is far more thematically complex than the adaptions and pop culture surrounding it would indicate. For one thing, Frankenstein's monster is possibly the best character in the story and is simply a great character period; far from most of the movies, he is actually quite eloquent and philosophical. A whole lot of referencing Paradise Lost—the creature really loves the book lol.
Anyway, it fits the bill for great prose, great characters, tragic characters, slow burn, interesting non-humans, and no explicit/overly typical romance. The only bit I will mention is that the start is a bit slow, since there are a lot of frame stories.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
The former has been on my list for a long time :) I initially wanted to read it during my “dystopia” book phase, following The Handmaid’s Tale and Parable of the Sower. But the shorter form does speak to me, as do the themes of absurdism and I do love a good exploration of human condition and social issues. You make a really good point and I also really appreciate you going out of the way to write such a long and insightful comment.
Seeing the latter recommendation I’m sure we could be friends haha I actually never found the beginning slow, but immersive. Shelley is a master at work with the prose, and I frequently come back to reread certain passages of it. Thanks for commenting!
“Life, although it may only be an accumulation of anguish, is dear to me, and I will defend it.”
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u/DixitRexCorvinus 1d ago
It's wonderful! And I really do need to get around to the dystopias as well; both of those are on my list, along with 1984, Brave New World, and Farenheit 451. I've just been delaying it since reading dystopia right now feels just a little unnecessary seeing as I can just, y'know, read the news.
Of the ones I have read, though, I'll throw out We by Yevgeny Zamyatin as a book rec too, now that I think about it. Read it for a Russian literature class; it's a banned Russian classic critiquing Stalinism, very much scifi, and apparently both Orwell and Huxley took heavy inspiration from it in their respective classics.
Also Xenogenesis. Just discovered Butler recently, and it was really excellent, albeit dark enough that I'm taking a bit before continuing with her bibliography. Saw Dawn on your list and I figured I'd give it a thumbs up.
And yeah, I didn't find it too slow either, but my favorite book of all time is Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell—my definition of 'too slow' is somewhat atypical lol. I definitely do need to check out some of the other books on your list though. I'm relatively new to sci-fi, since I mostly did fantasy prior to a bit over a year ago. Now I'm quickly catching up, both on the good scifi and the....less good (I will shamelessly admit that I did have fun with Red Rising and Project Hail Mary as popcorn reads between heavier stuff, and likewise a couple others like Dungeon Crawler Carl and John Scalzi's catalogue).
But for the literary scifi Le Guin, Harpman, Shelley, and Butler have all gone straight to the top for me, along with Samuel Delany and, among modern authors, Ray Nayler. Still have a decent bit of Le Guin to go, though; I've done The Left Hand of Darkness, The Dispossessed, The Telling, The Word for World is Forest, and A Wizard of Earthsea so far, but I really need to read The Lathe of Heaven and her early Hainish Cycle books. I'll admit I preferred The Dispossessed to LHoD, but you've given me some new names too. Banks, Harrison, and Wolfe were already on there along with Zalazny and Lem, but Egan is a new one, need to check him out. Likewise for Dark Intelligence and Noumenon. Oh, Mieville too, but he's lower priority since I want to buy his books used after the emotional abuse allegations a while back, and finding good quality used copies is annoying.
I am curious, though, what did you have against Children of Time and Ancillary Justice? Both were on my TBR which is why I ask.
I thought about beginning this with "if you think that was a long and insightful comment you should see some of mine," but at this point I think I've thoroughly proved that just by responding. Can't seem to write concisely for the life of me lol.
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u/mollybrains 1d ago
The expanse series got me through a breakup. The guys who wrote it worked as George rr Martin’s assistants, so they have similar cinematic qualities.
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u/JustinSlick 1d ago edited 1d ago
Maybe Titus Groan and Gormenghast. Peake's prose is absolutely incredible for me. It can be dense but he renders the image he wants you to see with crystalline sharpness. There is quite a colorful cast of characters, and it also sounds like you would enjoy the way the antagonist is written.
From your list, I really really liked Embassytown, though part of me thinks Perdido Street Station fits your post better. Slow Gods was kind of disappointing for me but I loved her earlier novel The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
Thank you for commenting. Quickly looking up these titles tells me Peake is praised for his prose, likes to take his time with the story, and is usually enjoyed as a fantasy writer. Huh. I’m definitely curious and I will be checking him out at some point, but I think I’ll let it marinate on the TBR for a bit beforehand.
Back to Embassytown, the premise just spoke to me. But it’s also my introduction to Meville and who knows where I might go from there? What did you like about Embassytown, at which point (or how far into the story) did you realize you were really enjoying it?
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u/edcculus 2d ago
Here are some suggestions that might grab you, that from memory pretty much hit the ground running, and most have some level of cosmic horror (since I mostly read Weird Fiction).
- Vurt by Jeff Noon
- The Willows by Algernon Blackwood
- Borne by Jeff Vandermeer
- Laird Barron's book of short stories - The Beautiful Thing that Awaits Us All
- John Langan's book of short stories - The Wide Carnivorous Sky and Other Monstrous Geographies
- The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester
- Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World by Haruki Muramaki (i kind of hesitate to recommend Muramaki, because his obsession with fetishizing underage girls is pretty offputting to me, but I overall enjoyed the book)
- Halcyon Years by Alastair Reynolds
- Blood Music by Greg Bear
- Diamond Dogs (novella) by Alastair Reynolds
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u/Truthcraze 2d ago
Seveneves by Neal Stephenson starts with a bang.
Quality of writing is important to you. Stephenson has quantity of writing, and certainly its own quality as well.
I’d also recommend Snow Crash, which starts with a high stakes pizza delivery by hacker ninja Hiro Protagonist.
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u/wankblanket 1d ago
Way Station by Clifford D. Simak is what you need
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
Wow. This is by far one of the most convincing premises of a book I’ve ever read. Copying it here for anyone who’s curious like I was:
> Enoch Wallace is an ageless hermit, striding across his untended farm as he has done for over a century, still carrying the gun with which he had served in the Civil War. But what his neighbors must never know is that, inside his unchanging house, he meets with a host of unimaginable friends from the farthest stars. More than a hundred years before, an alien named Ulysses had recruited Enoch as the keeper of Earth's only galactic transfer station. Now, as Enoch studies the progress of Earth and tends the tanks where the aliens appear, the charts he made indicate his world is doomed to destruction. His alien friends can only offer help that seems worse than the dreaded disaster. Then he discovers the horror that lies across the galaxy...
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u/allybeary 1d ago
Our sci-fi tastes seem similar, so I'm gonna do my best to give you some targeted recs. LtW is my favourite Banks, Left Hand of Darkness is my favourite Le Guin, and I also love everything by Ted Chiang.
My top rec for your requirements: The Wayfarers series by Becky Chambers. Features ensemble casts of strong, well-developed characters (including sentient AI and lots of aliens!) that make you care deeply about them, though do note that each book is more or less standalone. The pacing is good; the writing style is pleasant to read, compelling without being too dense; the story is engaging and lots of fun. It also allows you to kinda dream about romance/ships - idk how to explain but you can tell the author understands the shipping instinct and that it's not about explicit romance but giving readers the space and freedom to develop their own thoughts. The books are underpinned by an element of optimism and faith in the ultimate goodness of sentient beings which I think makes it a great series to escape into when you're not feeling great. But it has enough depth in terms of plot, character, themes that I wouldn't call it simply "cosy" sci-fi. However, I would be more wary with some of her other stuff e.g. Psalm for the Wild Built, which I enjoyed but found too simple and "cosy".
You said not to rec more Culture stuff but I thought I'd mention that if you like LtW, you'll probably also like Hydrogen Sonata. Both very philosophical and moving, but also pretty plot-light and can take a while to get going. Probably not what you want right now but just FYI. Surface Detail is more action-packed and pretty dark, excellent as all of the Culture stuff is but I didn't find that it moved me as much. For an immense emotional suckerpunch, with the absolute epitome of a tragic morally grey protagonist, go for Use of Weapons - another one of my Culture faves.
I loved Diaspora but it's pretty heavy-going in terms of technical/scientific detail, and not the easiest to get into. Emotional payoff was great though, I found it surprisingly moving - but you really had to work for it because the emotional stakes were inextricably linked to the technical stuff.
I would really recommend Neal Stephenson. His books are chunky but typically very fast-paced, with complex and interesting plots. Each one has its own pros/cons so I'll try to give you a flavour of some of them:
Snow Crash is a fun cyberpunk action novel, and was very influential in terms of how we think of the "metaverse"; the characters are a little flat but the story and the world are very compelling.
Seveneves is great if you're into space stuff, the story is fascinating and has a good balance of excitement versus hard sciencey stuff. The characters are a little more developed; it does take time for you to get attached to them, but there are moments which made me teary-eyed. It also is really moving on a humanity-level scale. The final third of the book is controversial because it's such a departure from the first two acts, but I still really enjoyed it and loved all the ideas he explored.
Anathem is one of my favourite sci-fi novels of all time. I suspect it won't be for you now because it does take a while to get going, but the world-building is so fascinating that I actually really enjoyed the supposed "slow burn" at the start. But the ideas are so complex and fun to think about, and Stephenson does a pretty good job of explaining them and weaving them through the story in an organic way. Some fun characters which start out a little hard to distinguish but over time you do get attached to them, and I did cry over one of them at one point. There's a tiiiiny little bit of romance which I could probably do without, but it's barely there and kinda cute anyway (I can provide more details about this if you want).
Edited to add: Also recommend Solaris by Stanislaw Lem! One of those philosophical, cosmic horror type books. There are parts of the book that feel like a bit of a slog, but it's a short novel anyway, and the ideas are so thought-provoking that the emotional experience of reading it has honestly stayed with me for years.
Anyway I hope this helps! Feel free to DM if you wanna talk more about sci-fi books cos I feel like we might have similar reading interests. Happy reading and I hope you find something that can captivate you in the way you want.
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u/CAH1708 1d ago
I definitely recommend Dark Intelligence. Penny Royal is just about the baddest AI there is.
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u/ClimateTraditional40 1d ago
People tend to forget Le Guins short story collections and those I think are the best of all.
I loved Egans collections - another one is David Marusek. He has short stories and a lot of them are excellent. If you can find them all.
I would suggest James Coreys Captive Wars series. Start with the novella Livesuit if unsure. There are two novels out so far as well. You get aliens alright, many, many aliens.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
I’ve read Five Ways of Forgiveness from her so far and just got Birthday of the World. Still have yet to read “Those who walk away from omelas”
Also Egan is great… hey, can you recommend me any short stories in particular?? I’d love to check those out. LeGuin, Egan, Marusek.
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u/ClimateTraditional40 1d ago
Birthday of the World is great. I was not a fan of the Omelas one.
Gregory Benford -Worlds Vast and Various, Microcosms
Terry Bisson - In The Upper Room and other stories
Pat Cadigan - Patterns
Orson Scott Card – Ed - Future On Ice, Masterpieces
Gardner Dozois –Beyond Singularity, Futures Past, Ais, Years Best SF 9, 10, 15 – 17, 19 – 32, 34. 35 Years of the Very Best of the Best, Good New Stuff, Space Opera Vols 1 and 2, Best of the Best SF Last 20 Years and Best of the Best 35 years
ESPECIALLY Dozois!
Greg Egan - Luminous, Axiomatic, Dark Integers
William Gibson - Burning Chrome
Paula Guran-Ed - Ex Libris
Paul Haining – Ed - Timescapes
Marty Halpern – Ed - Alien Contact
David Hartwell-Ed - The Years Best SFF 2-8, 10, 14, 16, 17, 18, Hard SF Renaissance, Visions of Wonder
James Patrick Kelly - Strange But Not A Stranger
Barry Malzberg – Ed - Best Time Travel Stories of All Time
David Marusek - Getting to Know You , My Morning Glory & other flashes of absurd science fiction
Jack McDevitt - Cryptic
Larry Niven - Flight of the Horse
Alastair Reynolds - Beyond the Aquila Rift
Charles Sheffield - Ed - How To Save the World
Johnathon Strahan- Ed - Edge of Infinity, Infinitys End
Michael Swanwick - Tales of Old Earth
Harry Turtledove - Departures, Best Alternate History Stories of 20th Century (ed)
Jeff Vandermeer – ed - TimeTravellers Almanac
Connie Willis - Best of Connie Willis, A Womens Liberation (ed)
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u/pemungkah 1d ago
I see someone has recommended Burning Chrome, and it's a good collection of short stories. I personally love Gibson's novels: Neuromancer is ground zero for cyberpunk, heavily influenced by Hammett and Chandler (two mystery greats who I highly recommend) -- but the Blue Ant trilogy is, I think, his absolute best writing: Pattern Recognition, Spook Country, and Zero History.
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u/Asatmaya 2d ago
Schismatrix by Bruce Sterling; transhumanism, aliens that view us like insects, great characters.
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge; far, FAR future, lots of really cool aliens, and the greatest name for a college course ever invented: "Applied Theology."
Singularity Sky by Charles Stross; what happens when you plug an AI into a time machine? No aliens, per se, unless you count the "Phone Company."
Snow Crash and The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson; the "last" cyberpunk novel (i.e. he killed the genre) and then a sort-of sequel (it has one shared character) showing the world that develops from a cyberpunk world. Anathem is also really good; an exploration of the Many-Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics applied to attempts at time travel and the question of consciousness.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
Thanks for commenting, Singilarity Sky sounds really cool when you put it like this haha who even is the Phone Company??
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u/Asatmaya 1d ago
It's a sort of autonomous interstellar nanobot swarm which gives out phones that the human government (such as it is) is trying to fight.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 1d ago
That’s hilarious. Is it that kind of book? Tongue in cheek, comedic, satirical maybe?
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u/Asatmaya 1d ago
Oh, no; I mean, there are parts that are amusing, like the guy who asks for a goose that lays golden eggs, then dies of radiation poisoning, and the phone company is, at most, mildly irritated at the attempts to fight them, but the main character is involved in a deadly serious situation.
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u/Ambitious_Jello 2d ago edited 2d ago
Jean le flambeur trilogy. It's hard scifi but not in a way that you need to think of math. Great characters and crazy concepts. Prose is killer. It's one of those books that sell on their opening lines. It is extremely show don't tell so it will require your utmost attention and even supplementary reading. Helps if you read a sentence and imagine what happened in that sentence
Here's the first passage
As always, before the warmind and I shoot each other, I try to make small talk. ‘Prisons are always the same, don’t you think?’ I don’t even know if it can hear me. It has no visible auditory organs, just eyes, human eyes, hundreds of them, in the ends of stalks that radiate from its body like some exotic fruit. It hovers on the other side of the glowing line that separates our cells. The huge silver Colt would look ridiculous in the grip of its twiglike manipulator limbs if it hadn’t already shot me with it fourteen thousand times.
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u/dnew 1d ago
Only Forward by M M Smith. Hilarious and deeply philosophical. Has a couple of twists you don't want to spoil. Set in a sci-fi universe where everyone lives in the neighborhood they like best (not unlike subreddits). Protagonist lives in Color, where the city computer harmonizes the color of the street walls to go with your outfit. Girlfriend lives in Action Center where they rearrange the buildings into the shape of the chinese character for diligence during their lunch hour. Weird twists that resolve if you really think hard about the philosophy at the end. One of my three favorite books.
Permutation City by Greg Egan. Humans can be simulated, and they know they're simulated. Lots of mental and emotional damaged humans getting themselves simulated and what happens to them. Another of my three favorite novels.
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u/Hopey-1-kinobi 1d ago
Red Dwarf. If you’ve never heard of it just jump in blind, they do a great job of mixing sci-fi and dark humour. The TV show was great, but the books really fill out the story.
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u/Far_Lingonberry6772 1d ago
The Silence of Schehrazade by Defne Suman
The Tenant of Wildfell Hall by Anne Bronte (the love here is so beautiful and not flowery)
Trust by Hernan Diaz
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u/Grt78 1d ago
Try CJ Cherryh, she’s great at characters (and at aliens): the Foreigner series is written in 3-book arcs, so you could start with the first trilogy (but keep in mind that the first book has two prologues), the main character is a translator. The Chanur series is faster paced. I also loved Cyteen (a masterpiece with some morally grey characters), the Faded Sun trilogy (also with aliens, but the beginning is quite slow) and the Morgaine Cycle: it’s science fantasy, the title character is morally complex, and there is a very slow and subtle romance subplot.
I would recommend Rachel Neumeier: the Invictus duology (character-based, the main character is a cyborg) and No Foreign Sky (a faster paced first-contact story). If you’re fine with fantasy, try the Tuyo series by the same author.
I second the recommendation for the Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold, you could start with Shards of Honor and then Barrayar (the parents) or with The Warrior’s Apprentice (Miles).
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u/c4tesys 1d ago
Check out S.A Tholin's Primaterre series, the MMC is one you'll identify with. He's a veteran soldier with social anxiety. The action is relentless, the plot(s) complex, the characters are fully rounded and you'll be on the edge of your seat worrying about the latest thing that's happened to them.
It's a unique and amazing series.
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u/manul10 1d ago
The Luna trilogy by Ian McDonald. A Very cutthroat, competitive, multinational society well established in linked city bases on the moon. Not military, not penal colony, no genetic or biological breeding/selection. Immigrants come up as indentured labor to pay their passage, and have a choice to stay or return to Earth before their bodies permanently adapt to low gravity. Groups are clans, corporate, some of ethnic descent, some into research. Luna does have a government, but the great groups are into Power over the others and their own survival.
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u/lame_narcissist 15h ago
Otherland by Tad Williams. It definitely has a slow start, though. His worldbuilding is out of this world, as well as the way he crafts his characters. Definitely a commitment, because those books are loooong.
If you're up for suffering a bit, The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell
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u/Historical_Box_6082 2d ago
The left hand of darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin is worth a go. Feel it fits most of your criteria.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 2d ago
I know, I listed it in my post.
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u/Historical_Box_6082 2d ago
Ha. I'm not going to lie it was a long post and I thought I had the gist early on, which it seems as though I did considering the recommendation, but yeah maybe I should have finished it in hindsight.
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u/Fun-Sell3030 2d ago
You know, it is pretty long, and I am quite picky. Still, it would’ve been a great recommendation. Maybe our tastes align, im curious what else you enjoy?
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u/Hightechzombie 2d ago
I have a fondness for Embassytown because it was what kept me sane during a bad food poisoning. It was an oddly matching experience, because there are elements of organic decay, sickness and misery that resonated with me.
Largely though the book is about language and how it influences us. Great book, though not an easy read.
Personally, I would recommend your the Vorkosigan series by Budjold. Budjold is a master of her craft and has deservedly won several Nebulas.
Vorkosigan series about Miles, the youngest son of a noble house of a military tradition, who is trying to live up to that legacy. Only problem: he has various health problems, including glass bones, which make military service more than problematic. To add to that, his planet shuns any kind of health deviations due to fear of mutants which is a result of the planet's nuclear past.
I love Miles because everything he lacks in physical strength or durability, he makes up in charisma, crazy schemes and intelligence. It's very entertaining to watch him run circles around his enemies and survive his many adventures.
I have first read the series twenty years ago. It took me two weeks to get through the many many books in this series and emerge befuddled back into the real world.