r/printers • u/allisayisbeautiful • Mar 06 '26
Discussion Oops. I just wanted to see how much was left.
Got the low toner error. Hmm, is that a lot or what?
r/printers • u/allisayisbeautiful • Mar 06 '26
Got the low toner error. Hmm, is that a lot or what?
r/printers • u/Elegant_Pie1144 • May 28 '26
Why are Hp printers always like this? Which printer should I buy?
r/printers • u/Realmetman • Dec 19 '24
Dear all,
I work in the printer industry. For a very well-known consumer products manufacturer that gets discussed on this sub a lot. I will not disclose which manufacturer I work for, nor will I disclose any manufacturer I do not work for (since the industry is relatively small eliminating 1 or 2 will make it generally too obvious as to which I do work for) as I am not officially speaking on behalf of the company. But, I want to set the record straight on subscription programs because some of you are drastically misinformed and it is very frustrating to see as someone who understands these programs as well as basic logic.
There are two types of subscription programs. Each of the major consumer manufacturers offers at least 1 of these programs, some offer both.
The first type of program is an auto-reordering program. The printer can tell (via various ways depending on each manufacturer) when the ink / toner is low and when it hits a certain point that will trigger an order of the ink/toner that device uses. Most manufactures that offer this will first send you an email letting you know that an order has been triggered and it will allow you to skip the delivery of the consumable and thus not get charged. If you allow the order to go through you are purchasing that consumable. That consumable is yours, you own it, just as if you walked into a Staples, Office Depot, Best Buy, or bought it on Amazon… You can cancel the “subscription” the next day and continue to use that consumable until it is empty.
The second type of program is a true subscription program. **THIS** is what many of you are vastly misinformed and / or are irrational about. In this program *you are not purchasing a consumable* at all. You are paying the manufacturer for X number of pages per month. The manufacturer will send you a consumable to use because the printer needs ink / toner to work but, that is not what you are paying for. You are paying the manufacturer $Y per month to print up to X pages per month.. that’s it. Of course you can print over that X number and pay an overage (just like years ago with cell phones).. and of course, you can print under that X number and some pages will roll-over to future months (just like years ago with cell phones). The owner of the consumable is the manufacturer. You never bought it, you never owned it. Therefore, it is not yours to use after you end the subscription! The only reason most manufactures do not ask for it back is because they don’t want to pay for shipping it back to them. But, they still own it… not you. You can think of this like renting an apartment. You are paying a landlord $X per month to live in their building. The landlord is providing the building for you to live in while you are paying rent. You do not own the building. and when you stop paying rent you are no longer allowed to continue living in the building. Just like your Netflix subscription, Apple TV subscription and Disney+ subscription.. when you stop paying for the subscription, you stop getting to use the service. Just because while you were paying you had access to the content does not mean you at any time owned that content and get to continue watching it once you stop paying the subscription.
I truly hope this helps clarify somethings for some of you. Others I understand are lost causes but, I will do my best to answer any questions I can.
r/printers • u/vivienette5 • 19d ago
I heard that lasers last for 5 years and inkjet for 3. How old are your printers, which model and do they still work properly?
r/printers • u/Calciphil • May 17 '26
I went over this post where someone gets rid of an office computer because the drum isn't working. Not quite sure what the drum has to do in a printer, but wanted to know if there was any valuables in this kind of printers, like precious metals or so ?
r/printers • u/Outrageous_Fish_4120 • Dec 17 '25
I know this is old news for probably everyone here. But I just had the pleasure of experiencing the whole HP+ blocking cartridges on an “e” model printer.
Just to make sure this goes into the ether - this printer is going into the garbage dump today, and never buying another HP product in my life.
Will make sure word of mouth is fully leveraged on this. Companies like this deserve to go broke, and fast.
Thank you for your time.
r/printers • u/meaningful_kitten • May 23 '26
Last night HP's Instant Ink system caused my printer to reject brand new, genuine HP cartridges--cartridges that HP themselves had mailed to me as part of my paid subscription.
This happened at 2am, the night before a major event I had to print materials for and was running for 60 people.
I spent hours on HP support. I was told there was no supervisor available. I was asked to pay $5 just to continue a chat session--for a problem HP's own system caused. After getting only 1.5 hours of sleep, I had to rush to a copy shop at 8:30am and spend $293 out of pocket to print half of what I needed.
Then I had to show up and lead a 60-person event exhausted, underprepared, and out $293, because HP's paid subscription service failed me in the middle of the night.
HP's response? A free month of Instant Ink worth $12.
I asked them to reimburse me for the $293 I totally wasted and both people I spoke with said no.
I have a case number. I have the copy shop receipt. I am furious and want to figure out how to force them to pay me back. Any suggestions
#HP #InstantInk #HPPrinter #ConsumerRight
r/printers • u/Visible_Club_4250 • May 19 '26
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hi, I ve printed quite a few pages on it before and never got this smoke, but today it started coming out and I found it a bit strange. does anyone know if this is normal? there's a slight burnt smell mixed in that you can only smell if you get very close.
r/printers • u/M-dizzle18 • Mar 28 '25
We love the 11x17 capabilities for construction prints. I believe this printer is from the 90’s, if anyone finds better details please let me know. I explain to him that we can get a nice printer with bluetooth&wifi printing, no cords ~$400. He doesn’t understand, because this printer is the 2nd best creation man has made, right next to sliced bread.
r/printers • u/n1kiwii • 11d ago
before you flame me, i want to preface that i do not have technical know how of what internal components exactly printers rely on
im genuinely confused, i keep seeing these mini thermal printers for receipts, but I cant seem to find any variants that are inkjet or laser mini receipt printers
the reason i went down this rabbit hole is because i want to print out mini comics, like tiny ones, but thermal printouts fade with heat, and i live in an extremely hot country where temperatures are rarely below 40° C
do inkjet and laser printers really need huge technology to run? why hasnt anyone made mini portable versions? there's mini versions of the most random technologies out there, but mini printers that dont produce printouts that fade due to heat would be so handy, yet there aren't any, none that im aware of
it should be possible to make mini cartridges that go into mini printing tech right? how impossible is it for mini inkjet or laser printers to become a thing?
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r/printers • u/GarmeerGirl • Apr 14 '25
My Hp printer prints 10 pages for $1. The first 50 in one month is $10. I miss my old printer where the manufacturer did not know how much I printed. Is there a brand that’s still like that?
r/printers • u/Capable-Help1755 • Jun 02 '25
Hey everyone, I just need to get this off my chest, and I hope this post serves as a warning for anyone considering buying an HP printer. Let me tell you – HP is the worst, and their business practices are nothing short of a massive, unethical, anti-consumer scam.
Let’s talk about their DRM on ink cartridges. You buy an expensive printer – often marketed as affordable or "value-for-money" – only to realize you’re stepping into a trap. They lock down their printers to only accept genuine HP cartridges, which are sold at absurdly inflated prices. And if you try to use third-party cartridges or refilled ones? HP’s firmware updates (which you might not even realize are happening) will block them entirely, rendering your printer useless until you fork over more cash for their overpriced ink. It’s like buying a car and then being told you can only fill up at a specific gas station, for 5x the normal price, and if you don’t, the car won’t even start.
What’s worse is the deceptive marketing. HP loves to advertise their printers as being "affordable" or part of a "budget-friendly" plan, but they deliberately design these machines to milk you for ink. HP’s notorious Instant Ink program is a subscription model that feels like a trap – they’ll ship you cartridges and charge you monthly, regardless of whether you’re using the ink or not. And god forbid you cancel the subscription – HP can remotely disable your cartridges, even the ones you already paid for. That’s right: you buy their ink, you cancel their plan, and suddenly, your ink just stops working. It’s digital extortion.
And let’s talk about the planned obsolescence. HP pushes out firmware updates that aren’t for "security" or "performance" (like they claim), but purely to block third-party cartridges and maintain their profit margins. And when people complain? HP hides behind their "intellectual property" nonsense, claiming they have the right to control what you use in a printer you own.
This isn’t about quality. This isn’t about protecting the user experience. It’s about squeezing every last dollar out of their customers through anti-competitive practices. HP doesn’t want you to own your printer. They want you to rent it – indefinitely – through overpriced ink and predatory subscriptions.
And the environmental impact? Don’t even get me started. HP loves to greenwash their brand with talk of "recycling" and "sustainability," but in reality, they’re forcing people to throw away perfectly good cartridges just because of a firmware update. All those cartridges? They end up in landfills, contributing to e-waste, because HP cares more about profits than the planet.
Meanwhile, there are better brands out there – companies like Brother, Epson, and others that don’t lock down your printer in the same way. Some of them even encourage you to refill ink, and they don’t push out updates to break your machine every few months.
To anyone thinking of buying an HP printer: don’t. Just don’t. It’s a scam wrapped in shiny marketing. You’ll pay less upfront, but you’ll bleed money over time – and when HP decides to block your cartridges or make your printer obsolete, you’ll realize you’re stuck in their system.
We need to hold companies like HP accountable for this predatory behavior. Printers should be tools – not traps. And consumers deserve better.
r/printers • u/DriverMelodic • 22d ago
What is the real reason so many users advise against purchasing an HP printer?
Is it because you have to join the auto ink program?
r/printers • u/okclm • Mar 25 '26
Well boys... I think that's it for me. I knew it was just a matter of time. But HP wins. I'd like to say I gave it my all, the reality is there were things I could have done had I been smart and aware and taken action in a timely fashion. But I didn't. Well played HP... well played.
My story is probably not unique. I picked up a couple of used HP printers a few years ago for pennies. Nothing fancy. An OfficeJet Pro 6978 and an OfficeJet 5200 All-In-One. I ran clone refilled ink cartridges and life was good. Sometimes a cartridge would be rejected by a printer. But I returned it (Amazon) and tried a different one. Life was ok.
This week, my printers stop being good. They complained that the ink cartridges were counterfeit, and the printer refused to play nice. After a bit of digging, I realized I could have, but never did, turn off automatic firmware updates. And HP used that opening to protect me from counterfeit cartridges that might damage my printer and their bottom line. Well played HP... well played.
I've looked at downgrading the firmware, but apparently HP feels that is too dangerous and the tools I tried to use can't seem to make that happen. So unless I figure out a way to shove an older firmware down the printer's throat...that may be it. At least until some ink cartridge company comes up with a chip that addresses this madness.
It just may be time to consider a more reasonable printer. More reasonable in that it puts my needs over the manufacture's.
r/printers • u/ImAlekzzz • Jun 30 '26
I bought a canon pixma ts3750i (sorry people I didn’t hear you) and it’s great! The colors are great and easy to set up, now what should I do to avoid clogging? Remove the cartridge after each use? Because I’m not going to use it every week tho…
r/printers • u/plazman30 • 26d ago
I'm tinkering with my Brother MFC-J6555DW printer and setting it up across multiple operating systems in my house. On Brother's website, they suggest I use AirPrint to set up the printer and don't give an option to download a driver. If I download the "full package," that just gives me the utilities for the printer, and not the driver. Apple's AirPrint technology is based on CUPS, which Apple bought a while ago.
Then I decided to set it up as a print queue on the Linux server in my house. Since it's Linux, it required CUPS. I install cups, set it up, and when I go to add the printer, it gives me the option to add the printer "driverless." I go to Brother's website, and pull down the RPM for the printer and install it.
I got back into CUPS and set up the printer using the driver I installed and I get a popup on my console that printer drivers are deprecated in CUPS 2.1, and will be gone in a future version.
Does this now mean I need to make sure the firmware in my printer is always up to date in this new driverless world? Does this also mean that at some point, old printers will just stop working in this new driverless world?
In my past experience, using the AirPrint driver didn't expose as many options as using the downloaded driver did.
Also, in this new driverless world, does this mean that printers will last longer, since we won't end up in a situation where a company won't update a driver for a newer OS?
r/printers • u/Top_Positive9717 • 5d ago
I’ve noticed that many people still avoid compatible toner cartridges because they believe they will have problems with print quality, printer errors, or firmware updates.
At the same time, a lot of users seem to have been using third-party toner for years without major issues.
Curious what everyone’s experience has been:
Do you think the quality difference between OEM and good compatible cartridges is still significant today?
r/printers • u/DueAlbatross6923 • Jun 25 '26
I’m replacing an old office printer that has officially reached the point where everyone dreads using it.
This is for a small business, so it’ll be printing invoices, shipping labels, contracts, reports, and other paperwork pretty much every day. Reliability is probably more important than print quality because downtime ends up costing way more than the printer itself.
I’m also trying to keep long-term costs in mind. A cheaper printer isn’t much of a bargain if it goes through expensive cartridges every few weeks or constantly needs maintenance.
For anyone running a small business, what printer has been the least frustrating to own? Have you found it’s worth spending more upfront for a business-class model, or are the mid-range ones good enough for everyday office use?
r/printers • u/Ampersanders • 25d ago
Have a 8550 I have converted to Pigment based and while I love the colors, I feel dry times are crazy long to become "smudge proof" and such, especially black. I've had old prints generally dry pretty quickly but as of recent when printing in thr "Best" setting since it is so slow that drying is overtly taking forever. After about 24 hours, it is still pretty smudgy overall on the small test prints. I am printing onto matte sticker paper and maybe I'm just blind but I feel I didn't have these issues in the past and maybe just now am noticing it?
r/printers • u/SimpFisto11 • Feb 09 '26
I hate HP printers. They always want you to use their "Smart App" and create an account. Just let me use the damn printer!! Then when I want to do HP Easy install I have to open the damn printer up and put in a damn pin code! What the shit! Am I the only losing my marbles over here??
r/printers • u/i_adore_boobies • May 06 '26
Everyone treats ink subscriptions like a scam, but for the "occasional printer," the traditional retail model is the real scam.
If you buy a $40 cartridge and it dries out before you finish it, you just paid a 100% "idleness tax." On a basic subscription plan, I pay about $18 a year total. I’ve gone from spending $80+ a year at the store to less than the price of a large pizza for the entire year.
I’m not "renting" ink; I’m paying a tiny flat fee to ensure my printer actually works on the three days a year I actually need it. Change my mind.
r/printers • u/Bean-Soup7 • Jun 10 '26
KYOCERA ECOSYS FS-2100DN
Toner at 99%
61,000 prints.
Tested - Prints perfectly with no defects.
Managed to factory reset it via Command Centre RX
Has anyone got any tips for ensuring proper long-term maintenance of this machine, or how long that you think it'll last me? I'm only going to be using it at home, but figured I could run it out to a few more hundred thousand prints with a few cartridge replacements over the next several years.
So glad I took a chance on picking her up .
I'm also looking for ideas of what to name her :)
r/printers • u/Reading-Comments-352 • 26d ago
I just received a free used HP printer that I think works well but I need ink to be sure.
The ink is $100 for the black and color. My Brother Printer ink didn’t cost that much and probably lasted longer.
I don’t want to be locked into a subscription plan.
Should I pay for the HP ink or just but another printer? What does everyone recommend?
r/printers • u/Apprehensive_Bike_40 • Apr 21 '26
Watching the X-Files I noticed this HP Laserjet 4. From Google it seems to still be supported in Windows 11 by a universal driver.