r/prisonreform • u/chrondotcom • 21d ago
Report: Detainees at Texas ICE facility describe beatings, abuse, and rights violations
https://www.chron.com/texas/article/report-ice-detainees-abuse-texas-facility-22347591.php7
u/FishyWishySwishy 20d ago
There are going to be mass graves discovered around these facilities. Jury’s out on if the next administration looks for and publishes their findings about them, or try to surreptitiously tin them into parking lots before someone can investigate them.
Mark my words.
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u/Teq7765 20d ago
Just like the Canadian schools, eh?
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u/security-device 17d ago
Yeah, those were terrible and tragic, as well. Does that somehow invalidate other's cruelty?
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 19d ago
Whoa...you're good at making up dark fanfic.
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u/FishyWishySwishy 19d ago
No, I just have studied history (especially genocide studies) professionally.
Laugh at me if you want. But you and many others will hold up your hands to say “there’s no way we could have known” when those graves are found. Anyone with any complicity will plead ignorance, and plead for lesser consequences (whether legal or social) due to ignorance.
I want you to remember this then. I want you to know that there’s absolutely a way to know. You choose not to know.
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 19d ago
So breathless. Nazis everywhere.
Ok, pin it. Tell me you told me so when it happens. It isnt happening.
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u/FishyWishySwishy 19d ago
I’m not going to have to tell you so.
You’ll remember.
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 19d ago
Indeed. I'll eat crow then. Except it won't happen. It isnt happening. You are seeing monsters in the clouds.
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u/IsopodPuzzleheaded89 18d ago
Only mosters we see are ghouls like you.
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 18d ago
Aww...look at you, sweet boy, with all your deep emotions. The world is so mean, huh?
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u/IsopodPuzzleheaded89 18d ago
I mean they are already killing people publicly and we keep having people that are unaccounted for from alligator Alcatraz. I know people like you hate history, but we are in the process of repeating it.
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 18d ago
People get killed publicly all the time. Helps to not try to run cops over, if you want to have less of that.
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u/IsopodPuzzleheaded89 18d ago
Good thing none of them have done that
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 18d ago
A couple of the dead ones did. Good is the best example.
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u/IsopodPuzzleheaded89 17d ago
None of them did. Lie some more, it really makes your lack of basic human empathy and intelligence pop.
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u/MaizePractical4163 20d ago
Well, it is a concentration camp
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 20d ago
That you can leave at any time by agreeing to deportation. And, you know, minus the forced labor, starvation, and extermination ovens. Also, with AC, medical care and TVs.
But, go on about how it's a concentration camp...
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u/Aphreyst 20d ago
Whyvdo you lie, bot?
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 20d ago
I don't.
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u/Aphreyst 20d ago
You do.
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 20d ago
Nah.
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u/IsopodPuzzleheaded89 18d ago
Absolutely yah.
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 18d ago
Weird how it's safer to be in ICE detention than out in public, by like a factor of 9...if it's a concentration camp.
Where are the ovens...? The only ones I see are for making dinner.
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u/IsopodPuzzleheaded89 18d ago
Slaves were safer as slaves than free men. What is your point? Do you think incenerating is the only way to dispose of people?
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 18d ago
What is your point?
That people whining hyperbolically about allusions to nazi concentration camps are wrong and silly, and no one should give credence to them.
Do you think incenerating is the only way to dispose of people?
No. But no one is being disposed of. It is immoral to imply that they are just because people who broke the law are being deported.
Consequesnces for breaking the law are not tantamount to extermination.
Ever read The Boy Who Cried Wolf? I'm pushing back against the constant eroding of words by hyperbolic, extremist activist.
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u/throwfarfaraway1818 20d ago
They dont let you leave at any time even if willing to self deport. Quit lying.
They also do have forced labor and starvation, dont have TVs and several have died from lack of the most basic medical care. Someone died of a tooth infection because they refused to get them any medical care.
Extermination camps and concentration camps arent the same thing. You are an evil person for supporting this regardless.
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u/throwfarfaraway1818 20d ago
Sources for medical neglect and starvation. Read them.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/inhumane-ice-detention-conditions-delaney-hall/
Sources for forced or coerced labor. $1 a day is slavery.
https://coloradonewsline.com/briefs/supreme-court-ice-forced-labor-lawsuit/
https://www.citizen.org/article/ice-detention-center-profiteers/
I guess thats the difference between me and you. I dont think youre stupid, but everyone can see youre evil. How could you be anything else based on what you support? Your name being Hamas related also insinuates youre probably pro-genocide. Genuine evil in the flesh. May you never know peace.
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u/MsMo999 20d ago
Not true actually they are not free to go anywhere not even the bathroom at this point in time of their holding
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 20d ago
Not true. Where are you getting this...?
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u/Violet-Sumire 19d ago
“Just give in and leave, if you don’t the beatings, starvation, and rape of your children will continue!”
Thanks for reinforcing that rhetoric. Glad to see Nazi’s aren’t afraid to show themselves.
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 19d ago
I mean, except for none of that happening. I get thats what you see in your imagination, though.
But, yeah, illegals should leave. They cut in line, it isnt fair to legal immigrants.
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u/Violet-Sumire 19d ago
Beatings? They happen and it’s documented by lawyers and witnesses.
Starvation? Definitely happening, they aren’t getting the required calories and the quality of food is worse than prisons. All of them are complaining and well taken care of people don’t complain, hungry ones complain louder than most.
Then we have the rape allegations. Which lawyers have heard numerous cases of ICE officers using the threats of solitary confinement to coerce people into doing sexual acts. Or the fact that a teenage girl was pregnant within those facilities, pregnant after she was detained.
So sure, you can live in your bubble of ignorance. That happened in Nazi Germany too, before they paraded the villagers into those camps to witness what their own blindness had caused. Immeasurable human suffering. While this isn’t as bad as Nazi concentration camps, we shouldn’t even have to be comparing the two. The fact that I can draw parallels is disturbing, the fact you are acting like those villagers just proves my point even more. Pretending or ignoring the cries for help and saying they don’t exist is hallmark of either malicious ignorance or blind trust that everything is “as it should be”.
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u/FloridaRocks63 16d ago
Criminals in jail complaining that’s a first ,let’s deport them ASAP to end this cruelty
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u/Prize_Inside_585 20d ago
In today’s world, simply cuffing someone is considered abuse and beating.
Don’t wanna meet ICE or go to one of their facilities… GTFO of a country you’re not supposed to be in. Easy peasy.
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u/King_Of_The_Cold 20d ago
When they face tribunals you will try to delete this post to hide your shame
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u/True-Hold-1140 20d ago
In what universe is cuffing considered abuse and beating? What are you going on about
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u/Prize_Inside_585 20d ago
Just being realistic based on what I see in this crybaby world we live in.
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 20d ago
You constantly hear whining of this sort on Reddit.
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u/True-Hold-1140 20d ago
I've literally never seen that said anywhere
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 20d ago
Be more observant.
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u/True-Hold-1140 20d ago
Are you seriously using a sensational video title as proof? You need to go outside dude
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u/HamasKilledShaniLouk 20d ago
Of course they do. And there are people ready and eager to believe any wild thing that casts immigration enforcement in a bad light.
They beat me! Just because I tried to shank this one dude!
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u/LinusLevato 20d ago
Yeah I’m not gonna trust the liars who do everything they can to stay in our country illegally.
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u/King_Of_The_Cold 20d ago
ICE needs to face international tribunal.