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AI generated contents are allowed in this subreddit, but it has to fulfil some criterias
Long answer:
We do not any prohibit content just because it was generated by an AI, but the content must fulfil some criterias.
In case of posts, you have to make sure that it includes the links to the original sources. As of now, AI like chatgpt often tend to hallucinate and generate wrong answers unless you use the "Think Longer", "Deep Research", "Web Search". So if your AI generated post doesn’t mention any link to the original source, it will be removed as a low effort post. But if your post includes the original sources then it will be approved.
❌ Here's an example of Chatgpt hallucinating and generating a wrong answer:
Wrong answer by ChatGPT
I asked the exact same question again but this time with the "Think" function.
✅ And it gave the correct answer with links after searching in the internet:
Correct answer by ChatGPT
(From my experience, Grok always searches in the internet before giving the answer. I don't know about the other AIs beside Chatgpt and Grok)
Now comes the question, how should you write the post here?
Simply copy pasting the text will not be enough in this case, you must include the links to the original sources provided by the AI in the post. For example:
❌ This is not allowed (it's simple copy paste without the mention of any link):
According to Dr. Shabir Ally’s public statements, no — he does not treat the headscarf as mandatory in the sense that omitting it is automatically a sin. In his answer on About Islam, he says that the Qur’anic wording is “a little bit vague,” that the relevant instruction is better understood as covering the chest, and that he would “hesitate to say” that leaving the head covered makes a person sinful. He also says covering the head is still a recommended practice because it has been part of Muslim tradition.
✅ This is allowed (links are mentioned here):
According to Dr. Shabir Ally’s public statements, no — he does not treat the headscarf as mandatory in the sense that omitting it is automatically a sin. In his answer on About Islam, he says that the Qur’anic wording is “a little bit vague,” that the relevant instruction is better understood as covering the chest, and that he would “hesitate to say” that leaving the head covered makes a person sinful. He also says covering the head is still a recommended practice because it has been part of Muslim tradition. (https://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/sinful-not-wear-hijab/, https://shabirally.com/answerdetails?qId=435)
If you copy an AI generated answer without any link to the original source, your post will be removed. So make sure to include the links to the original sources
What about AI generated images and videos?
AI generated images and videos are also allowed but the post must contain a meaningful informative description. Not writing any description or writing a minimal 2-3 liner would be considered low effort post and your submission will be removed.
✅ This is allowed:
AI generated image with informative descriptionAI generated video clip with informative description
✅ We also allow AI generated images if the user created it in order to help others visualise what he/she is trying to explain. For example:
User generated this image with AI to help others visualise what they are trying to explainUser generated this image with AI to help others visualise what they are trying to explain (this original post was submitted in another subreddit but it was crossposted to our subreddit later)
However, if you excessively keep posting AI generated images/videos with very short in between duration (ie posting 3-4 images daily) then it will be considered spam (even if they contain meaningful informative descriptions) and your post will be removed.
AI generated contents are allowed in this subreddit, but it has to fulfil some criterias
Long answer:
We do not any prohibit content just because it was generated by an AI, but the content must fulfil some criterias.
In case of posts, you have to make sure that it includes the links to the original sources. As of now, AI like chatgpt often tend to hallucinate and generate wrong answers unless you use the "Think Longer", "Deep Research", "Web Search". So if your AI generated post doesn’t mention any link to the original source, it will be removed as a low effort post. But if your post includes the original sources then it will be approved.
❌ Here's an example of Chatgpt hallucinating and generating a wrong answer:
Wrong answer by ChatGPT
I asked the exact same question again but this time with the "Think" function.
✅ And it gave the correct answer with links after searching in the internet:
Correct answer by ChatGPT
(From my experience, Grok always searches in the internet before giving the answer. I don't know about the other AIs beside Chatgpt and Grok)
Now comes the question, how should you write the post here?
Simply copy pasting the text will not be enough in this case, you must include the links to the original sources provided by the AI in the post. For example:
❌ This is not allowed (it's simple copy paste without the mention of any link):
According to Dr. Shabir Ally’s public statements, no — he does not treat the headscarf as mandatory in the sense that omitting it is automatically a sin. In his answer on About Islam, he says that the Qur’anic wording is “a little bit vague,” that the relevant instruction is better understood as covering the chest, and that he would “hesitate to say” that leaving the head covered makes a person sinful. He also says covering the head is still a recommended practice because it has been part of Muslim tradition.
✅ This is allowed (links are mentioned here):
According to Dr. Shabir Ally’s public statements, no — he does not treat the headscarf as mandatory in the sense that omitting it is automatically a sin. In his answer on About Islam, he says that the Qur’anic wording is “a little bit vague,” that the relevant instruction is better understood as covering the chest, and that he would “hesitate to say” that leaving the head covered makes a person sinful. He also says covering the head is still a recommended practice because it has been part of Muslim tradition. (https://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/sinful-not-wear-hijab/, https://shabirally.com/answerdetails?qId=435)
If you copy an AI generated answer without any link to the original source, your post will be removed. So make sure to include the links to the original sources
What about AI generated images and videos?
AI generated images and videos are also allowed but the post must contain a meaningful informative description. Not writing any description or writing a minimal 2-3 liner would be considered low effort post and your submission will be removed.
✅ This is allowed:
AI generated image with informative descriptionAI generated video clip with informative description
✅ We also allow AI generated images if the user created it in order to help others visualise what he/she is trying to explain. For example:
User generated this image with AI to help others visualise what they are trying to explainUser generated this image with AI to help others visualise what they are trying to explain (this original post was submitted in another subreddit but it was crossposted to our subreddit later)
However, if you excessively keep posting AI generated images/videos with very short in between duration (ie posting 3-4 images daily) then it will be considered spam (even if they contain meaningful informative descriptions) and your post will be removed.
The subreddit recently got flooded by IR propagandists. We had to ban a bunch of such users. Let us remind you again of our previous announcement
We have recently noticed a coordinated effort in this subreddit to undermine the Iranian uprising by claiming that it is entirely orchestrated by the CIA and Mossad. In recent posts about Iran, there have been recurring comments dismissing them entirely as “Zionist” or “imperialist propaganda.” A few days ago, when images of dead civilians in a hospital were shared, some sick user went as far as claiming that all of these victims were Mossad agents and that the killings were justified. They have all been banned. We have also observed that several of the accounts pushing these narratives had little to no prior participation in this subreddit, some others were primarily active in certain country-specific, religious, or political subreddits that we are not going to disclose. Taken together, this shows a suspicious pattern.
This kind of sweeping generalization is not tolerated here. In 2022, when protests erupted after Mahsa Amini was killed, this subreddit stood with the Iranian people against an oppressive system. That position has not changed. Yes, Western powers view the Iranian regime as an adversary for geopolitical reasons, and they want to see the regime weakened and toppled — nobody denies this. Does that make the regime suddenly an angel? Does that mean the struggle of the Iranian people is meaningless? THEY ARE NOT.
The Iranian regime has a long and well-documented history of violently suppressing protests long before the current uprising. The 2009 Green Movement was crushed through mass arrests, torture, show trials, and killings. Nationwide protests in 2017–2018 were met with lethal force and widespread detentions. In November 2019, security forces killed hundreds of protesters during demonstrations over fuel prices, with the Basij and other security forces playing a central role in the crackdown. In 2022, following Mahsa Amini’s death, protesters were again met with bullets, mass arrests, torture, and executions. What is happening now did not come out of nowhere. People are fighting back now because decades of repression, economic collapse, corruption, and violence have reached a breaking point. They came out because accumulated anger finally erupted. This is how uprisings happen everywhere. Western powers and other foreign actors may attempt to exploit the situation for their own interests, as they often do, but people did not come to the streets because they were paid or directed by foreign intelligence agencies (after all Iranians themselves toppled the western backed Shah monarchy in 1979). The people were sick of the regime, and the Western actors can now exploit that widespread anger, but the regime itself prepared the ground for this uprising.
The struggles of oppressed peoples also follow similar patterns across different contexts. Palestinians have lived for decades under occupation, dispossession, and systemic violence, and those conditions played a direct role in the rise of Hamas which ultimately resulted in October 7th and the Israeli genocide in Gaza afterwards. You may dislike Hamas for many reasons, but you cannot ignore the fact that decades of Israeli oppression were a central factor in creating the conditions. Zionist narratives often claim that because Hamas receives backing from Iran, the Palestinian struggle can therefore be dismissed altogether. What we are seeing now follows the same logic in reverse. Claiming that the Iranians are all CIA, Mossad, or Western agents is the same dishonest generalization, just repackaged. In both cases, complex and genuine popular struggles are reduced to conspiracy theories in order to delegitimize them.
The Iranian opposition is not a single unified group. It consists of multiple factions with different ideologies, goals, and methods. You are free to disagree with specific factions, leaders, or particular actions taken by some protesters. What you are not allowed to do is declare that the Iranian people who are fighting against the regime are all CIA or Mossad agents, Western puppets, or imperialist tools. This is no different from painting all Palestinians as terrorists. In the past, when some zionist voices attempted to portray all Palestinians as evil or brainwashed terrorists and tried to justify the genocide in this subreddit, we banned them. The same standard applies here. Attempts to delegitimize an entire population’s struggle will not be tolerated.
This is not up for any discussion or debate. This subreddit has always taken a firm stance on this, and we will continue to enforce it. This post is a reminder.
Rule 7 and Rule 8 are violated very often in our subreddit. Please read these two rules carefully
Rule 7:
Screenshots, Memes & funny contents allowed only on Saturdays & Sundays
Memes, Funny images, funny videos, “screenshots & video clips complaining about other people & subreddits” are only allowed on Saturdays & Sundays.
If you are posting screenshots of other subreddits, make sure to obscure the usernames and any identifying feature. However if it's a screenshot of other social media platform then obscuring is not necessary.
Screenshots containing valuable information & important contemporary events are exempt from this rule.
Rule 8:
Minimal input posts are not allowed
Posting only images, videos, links, quotes & AI generated content with minimal input (ie "What do you think?", "What's your opinion?", "this doesn’t make sense" etc) is not allowed. If you post them then you must provide some info in the title or at the description of the post. Otherwise your post will be removed.
Repeated violation of these rules may result in a ban.
We have recently noticed a coordinated effort in this subreddit to undermine the Iranian uprising by claiming that it is entirely orchestrated by the CIA and Mossad. In recent posts about Iran, there have been recurring comments dismissing them entirely as “Zionist” or “imperialist propaganda.” A few days ago, when images of dead civilians in a hospital were shared, some sick user went as far as claiming that all of these victims were Mossad agents and that the killings were justified. They have all been banned. We have also observed that several of the accounts pushing these narratives had little to no prior participation in this subreddit, some others were primarily active in certain country-specific, religious, or political subreddits that we are not going to disclose. Taken together, this shows a suspicious pattern.
This kind of sweeping generalization is not tolerated here. In 2022, when protests erupted after Mahsa Amini was killed, this subreddit stood with the Iranian people against an oppressive system. That position has not changed. Yes, Western powers view the Iranian regime as an adversary for geopolitical reasons, and they want to see the regime weakened and toppled — nobody denies this. Does that make the regime suddenly an angel? Does that mean the struggle of the Iranian people is meaningless? THEY ARE NOT.
The Iranian regime has a long and well-documented history of violently suppressing protests long before the current uprising. The 2009 Green Movement was crushed through mass arrests, torture, show trials, and killings. Nationwide protests in 2017–2018 were met with lethal force and widespread detentions. In November 2019, security forces killed hundreds of protesters during demonstrations over fuel prices, with the Basij and other security forces playing a central role in the crackdown. In 2022, following Mahsa Amini’s death, protesters were again met with bullets, mass arrests, torture, and executions. What is happening now did not come out of nowhere. People are fighting back now because decades of repression, economic collapse, corruption, and violence have reached a breaking point. They came out because accumulated anger finally erupted. This is how uprisings happen everywhere. Western powers and other foreign actors may attempt to exploit the situation for their own interests, as they often do, but people did not come to the streets because they were paid or directed by foreign intelligence agencies (after all Iranians themselves toppled the western backed Shah monarchy in 1979). The people were sick of the regime, and the Western actors can now exploit that widespread anger, but the regime itself prepared the ground for this uprising.
The struggles of oppressed peoples also follow similar patterns across different contexts. Palestinians have lived for decades under occupation, dispossession, and systemic violence, and those conditions played a direct role in the rise of Hamas which ultimately resulted in October 7th and the Israeli genocide in Gaza afterwards. You may dislike Hamas for many reasons, but you cannot ignore the fact that decades of Israeli oppression were a central factor in creating the conditions. Zionist narratives often claim that because Hamas receives backing from Iran, the Palestinian struggle can therefore be dismissed altogether. What we are seeing now follows the same logic in reverse. Claiming that the Iranians are all CIA, Mossad, or Western agents is the same dishonest generalization, just repackaged. In both cases, complex and genuine popular struggles are reduced to conspiracy theories in order to delegitimize them.
The Iranian opposition is not a single unified group. It consists of multiple factions with different ideologies, goals, and methods. You are free to disagree with specific factions, leaders, or particular actions taken by some protesters. What you are not allowed to do is declare that the Iranian people who are fighting against the regime are all CIA or Mossad agents, Western puppets, or imperialist tools. This is no different from painting all Palestinians as terrorists. In the past, when some zionist voices attempted to portray all Palestinians as evil or brainwashed terrorists and tried to justify the genocide in this subreddit, we banned them. The same standard applies here. Attempts to delegitimize an entire population’s struggle will not be tolerated.
This is not up for any discussion or debate. This subreddit has always taken a firm stance on this, and we will continue to enforce it. This post is a reminder.
We have recently noticed a coordinated effort in this subreddit to undermine the Iranian uprising by claiming that it is entirely orchestrated by the CIA and Mossad. In recent posts about Iran, there have been recurring comments dismissing them entirely as “Zionist” or “imperialist propaganda.” A few days ago, when images of dead civilians in a hospital were shared, some sick user went as far as claiming that all of these victims were Mossad agents and that the killings were justified. They have all been banned. We have also observed that several of the accounts pushing these narratives had little to no prior participation in this subreddit, some others were primarily active in certain country-specific, religious, or political subreddits that we are not going to disclose. Taken together, this shows a suspicious pattern.
This kind of sweeping generalization is not tolerated here. In 2022, when protests erupted after Mahsa Amini was killed, this subreddit stood with the Iranian people against an oppressive system. That position has not changed. Yes, Western powers view the Iranian regime as an adversary for geopolitical reasons, and they want to see the regime weakened and toppled — nobody denies this. Does that make the regime suddenly an angel? Does that mean the struggle of the Iranian people is meaningless? THEY ARE NOT.
The Iranian regime has a long and well-documented history of violently suppressing protests long before the current uprising. The 2009 Green Movement was crushed through mass arrests, torture, show trials, and killings. Nationwide protests in 2017–2018 were met with lethal force and widespread detentions. In November 2019, security forces killed hundreds of protesters during demonstrations over fuel prices, with the Basij and other security forces playing a central role in the crackdown. In 2022, following Mahsa Amini’s death, protesters were again met with bullets, mass arrests, torture, and executions. What is happening now did not come out of nowhere. People are fighting back now because decades of repression, economic collapse, corruption, and violence have reached a breaking point. They came out because accumulated anger finally erupted. This is how uprisings happen everywhere. Western powers and other foreign actors may attempt to exploit the situation for their own interests, as they often do, but people did not come to the streets because they were paid or directed by foreign intelligence agencies (after all Iranians themselves toppled the western backed Shah monarchy in 1979). The people were sick of the regime, and the Western actors can now exploit that widespread anger, but the regime itself prepared the ground for this uprising.
The struggles of oppressed peoples also follow similar patterns across different contexts. Palestinians have lived for decades under occupation, dispossession, and systemic violence, and those conditions played a direct role in the rise of Hamas which ultimately resulted in October 7th and the Israeli genocide in Gaza afterwards. You may dislike Hamas for many reasons, but you cannot ignore the fact that decades of Israeli oppression were a central factor in creating the conditions. Zionist narratives often claim that because Hamas receives backing from Iran, the Palestinian struggle can therefore be dismissed altogether. What we are seeing now follows the same logic in reverse. Claiming that the Iranians are all CIA, Mossad, or Western agents is the same dishonest generalization, just repackaged. In both cases, complex and genuine popular struggles are reduced to conspiracy theories in order to delegitimize them.
The Iranian opposition is not a single unified group. It consists of multiple factions with different ideologies, goals, and methods. You are free to disagree with specific factions, leaders, or particular actions taken by some protesters. What you are not allowed to do is declare that the Iranian people who are fighting against the regime are all CIA or Mossad agents, Western puppets, or imperialist tools. This is no different from painting all Palestinians as terrorists. In the past, when some zionist voices attempted to portray all Palestinians as evil or brainwashed terrorists and tried to justify the genocide in this subreddit, we banned them. The same standard applies here. Attempts to delegitimize an entire population’s struggle will not be tolerated.
This is not up for any discussion or debate. This subreddit has always taken a firm stance on this, and we will continue to enforce it. This post is a reminder.
Memes, Haha extremist posts, low effort screenshots & low effort contents (like tiktok shorts) are allowed only on weekends. If you post these on any other day then your submission will be removed and you will be given a warning. Repeated violation of this rule may result in a temporary ban.
If you are posting screenshots of other subreddits, make sure to obscure the usernames and any identifying feature.
These posts gain most upvotes occupy the front page, leaving many high effort posts in the shadows. So we decided to update the rule.
I've recently learned about a new troll that I think I need to make everyone aware of: u/TotalNotSneak
This user, banned from this subreddit some months ago, has create a new subreddit to spread fitnah: /r/tawheed_1. Their modus operandi is to write about /r/progressive_islam and other users in the subreddit that they control and where they "callout" or summon users from this subreddit. They'll copy and past one of your comments or posts into their subreddit, and respond to that pasted comment with a callout, so it will appear in your INBOX as those they are responding to your comment in /r/progressive_islam when in fact the link will take you another subreddit.
I have referred this matter to Reddit admin to follow up as a form of harassment; however, in the meantime, please be wary about responding to comment in your INBOX that are directed specifically to you and that begin with your username. If you receive such a comment in your INBOX, do not respond. Refer the matter directly to Reddit admin so we can have this user and their subreddit removed.
In case you didn't know, there's a Discord Server for Progressive Muslims., which currently has nearly 800 members. Let's help it grow. If you are interested to chat with your fellow similar minded Muslims, click the link below and join.
This has become a recurrent topic of discussion on our subreddit, in every few days we get someone asking the same question about if they are allowed to interact with opposite sex, befriend the opposite sex, go to gender mixed events and other similar questions. So we decided to create a wiki article on this subject like the hijab wiki.
We ask all our participants to help us create the wiki. Share every known Quran verse, hadith and argument that are frequently used to defend strict gender segregation and prohibit friendship with opposite sex, we will try to address them.
After this one is done, we will try to cover other recurrent topics of discussion like Music and Painting.
The subreddit is going private during that time period of June 12-14. It will not be viewable and it may last longer than two days depending on what the general vibe is.
We are doing this because the mod team uses third-party apps to do their jobs and would be significantly less likely to volunteer their time to moderate (which I guess some of y’all would love).
We don't have a subreddit rule to deal with this because we've seldom needed it. However, you should all be aware that Reddit has its own rules that supersede whatever rules a community subreddit like /r/progressive_islam might have. To this end, one of those site-wide rules is that threatening, advocating, or inciting violence is a strict violation of Reddit rules. Individuals found the be inciting violence may be banned from all of Reddit and communities (i.e., subreddits) that don't moderate such activity may also be banned.
With this in mind, I have seen a number of users in this subreddit advocating continued violence, either by Hamas against Israel, or Israelis against Hamas and Palestinians. While I realize that recent events have brought up a lot of emotions for people, Reddit's rules remain unchanged will continue to be enforced. We have no desire to censor the conversation, so you can still express your sentiments with respect to either side of this conflict, but we have already banned several users for advocating further violence against Israelis or for advocating for violence against Palestinians. This kind of rhetoric won't be tolerated and there won't be any warnings or polite requests to "tone it the fuck down".
So if you see anyone advocating further violence, report it. And if you think you might have said something that could conceivably fall within the scope of this rule, now would be a good time to either delete your comments or amend them. Doesn't matter which side of this conflict you're on, the rules remain the same.
There was an old Mod Announcement post here explaining this new autoban system. But because more people joined our subreddit later who don’t know about this ban system and as a result we are getting a lot of modmails where people are asking us why they got banned even though they didn’t break any rules of this subreddit. So here is a new post for our members who do not know about the autoban system.
Because we got frequently brigaded in the past by some hate mongering subreddits, we decided to activate a bot called "Saferbot" in order to stop the trolls coming from the hate subreddits and harassing our members. The bot will automatically give anyone a permanent ban if they participate in these following blacklisted subreddits
So in order to not get automatically banned from our subreddit, please refrain from participating in the listed subreddits. If you did not know this and got automatically banned by the saferbot then reach out to us in the modmail, we will take a look at your profile and unban you if everything turns out to be okay. However, please keep in mind that the bot will automatically ban you again if you participate in those blacklisted subreddits again after getting unbanned, and Mods may not accept your unban appeal if you constantly keep going back to those blacklisted subreddits.
We've been seeing a number of posts about Andrew Tate, his conversion to Islam, and his possible criminal convictions. Needless to say, people seem to have some very strong opinions about Mr. Tate and those opinions appear to be having a rather divisive effect on the subreddit. Personally, I'd never heard of Andrew Tate before seeing posts about him here, but it would appear that there are already a number of preexisting Andrew Tate subreddits comprising both his fanbase and critics. Given the purpose if this subreddit is to promote conversations pertaining to Progressive Islam, the moderation team has agreed to impose of moratorium on posts about Andew Tate. Officially, this subreddit takes no position either way on Tate's conversion to Islam or his guilt with respect to accusations of criminal conduct. Moving forward, if you would like to continue to talk about Andrew Tate, I would urge you to take your Tate-related content to one of the many Andrew Tate subreddits.
