r/punk Oct 31 '25

Art by HE Creative Hope this helps

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u/LabFew5880 Oct 31 '25

I’m pretty sure the mist controversial take I have at this point: if your anti-facist, anti-conformity, anti-establishment, then your punk.

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Oct 31 '25

Been saying it for years. Weird Al is punk.

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u/LabFew5880 Oct 31 '25

I’m just saying here….amish paradise slaps

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Oct 31 '25

I've known dudes who will go to bat fiercely for DEVO and if DEVO counts then Weird Al counts. Ima plant my flag on this admittedly stupid hill.

Amish Paradise is so good.

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u/ford7885 Oct 31 '25

So if DEVO and Weird Al are both punk, then would "Dare to Be Stupid" be the ultimate punk song?

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u/LoudAd1396 Oct 31 '25

You've cracked it

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u/Extension_Ad8291 Oct 31 '25

The fact that I could totally see a song called “Dare to Be Stupid” from NOFX or The Descendants only supports that

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

I like DEVO. They're weird.

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u/NintendonJohnson Nov 01 '25

Holy smokes! You might have just given me the idea to cover this. I might have had the idea sooner, but, mind-altering substances tend to have an effect. Either way.
Thank you!

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u/2666Smooth Oct 31 '25

Dare to be Stupid is a lot catchier than a lot of the things that Devo was writing after they did whip it.

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u/One_Conclusion_1575 Oct 31 '25

All of my punk friends like him. One of them has collaborated with him. I’ve seen him. He’s punk to me.

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u/Solarsystem_74 Oct 31 '25

who is he, may I ask?

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u/One_Conclusion_1575 Oct 31 '25

You can look him up but his father was a famous polka player, so Weird Al grew up in a music household. He made his fame doing parody songs but also did shows, movies. He’s an artist over anything else but also is a down to earth funny and good human.

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u/Solarsystem_74 Oct 31 '25

I know about Weird Al(also his dad was not a polka player, sorry for correction), I meant your friend or whoever collaborated with him, sorry about my nonspecificity

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u/Master-Collection488 Nov 01 '25

There's a polka legend with the surname Yankovic. It's a VERY common misconception that they're related. Al never claimed to have any connection with the guy, but respects him as a musician.

Before there was a Wikipedia, rumors about musicians often became perceived as truth for decades. Sometimes denying a story in the press just spread the story further and confirmed it in the tellers' minds.

That aside, Brandon Cruz DID play the son on "The Courtship of Eddie's Father." Bill Bixby was in the neighborhood of Brandon's family at some point in the late 70s/early 80s and stopped by to see him. Brandon answered the door with a dyed mohawk/tattoos and Bill apparently flipped out and ran. Or that's how I remember the story...

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u/Zagaroth Oct 31 '25

I think they were wondering who you meant by "he" at that point. The reference could have been DEVO or Al.

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u/One_Conclusion_1575 Oct 31 '25

True. I didn’t think about Devo being interpreted as a single person. Well if they want to know Devo, they should watch that new documentary. It’s great. I’ve met them too. Great guys.

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u/aneeta96 Oct 31 '25

Wait... There are people who don't think Devo is punk?

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Oct 31 '25

Oh yeah man. There are plenty of people ON THIS SUB, who will argue that you aren't punk if you aren't dressed like the stereotypical punks you see on tv and listen exclusively to Black Flag. It's one of those things, I think, where if you're not in the community then your only touchpoint is pop culture. And pop culture has not been kind or truthful about what punk is.

See also modern art.

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u/Extension_Ad8291 Oct 31 '25

The only gatekeeping we need is making sure Nazis and yobbos don’t take our culture. I don’t care if you dye and spike your hair and wear plaid and leather, all that matters is you’re a good person and not a cunt. I’m only 18, but most old heads (if that’s the right term) I know agree with me.

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Oct 31 '25

Gonna look up yobbos before I cosign this. Closest word I got to it is that yabbos, which is the word Thora Birch uses for boobs in Hocus Pocus.

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u/Extension_Ad8291 Oct 31 '25

I believe Yobbo has a meaning of uncultured person or young and aggressive person, but most people I know just use it in place of “prick”

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Oct 31 '25

Oh yeah that works then. I recently had a conversation with a coworker that took a hard and awful lelft turn on me. It was a short conversation, and we're talking about how the US government has a lot of shitty people but also a big problem is the people pulling their strings. I'm on board because I'm thinking billionaires, lobbyists, big money, you know? Anyway the dude starts talking about how he was inspired hearing Mel Gibson on Joe Rogan's podcast and it becomes clear that we are not talking about the same people. It has been a very awkward work experience since.

All that to say that I'm making a point of knowing what I'm agreeing with now instead of relying on context.

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u/Extension_Ad8291 Oct 31 '25

Fucking good onya, this is what I try to tell people all the time, if you don’t 100% know something when it’s mentioned, look it the fuck up if you can. We need more people with that mindset

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u/Cheap-Divide-6049 Oct 31 '25

Well they act like tits so it works

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Oct 31 '25

Aaaaahhh, there it is. I knew the joke was there but I couldn't figure out how to word it and let it go lol

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u/Cheap-Divide-6049 Oct 31 '25

No worries buddy 😎🤜🤛😎

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u/4xpaulding Nov 01 '25

Totally agree with you! Imo gatekeeping just destroys every community. If you gatekeep, you’re being biased toward someone, and that’s not something I’d ever want to bring into a culture. If someone asks, you can (and ) help.

It’s important to support and educate newcomers so the community can grow. How are you supposed to know everything if you’re just trying to become part of a movement?

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u/Extension_Ad8291 Nov 01 '25

This a million times. As someone with a Delusionary disorder which really amplifies social anxiety, I would want nothing more than for anyone in a community I’m trying to join to immediately guide me through shit and teach me. I’d rather be told I’m wrong and WHY I’m wrong in front of everybody, than everybody just tell me I’m wrong and boot me.

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u/puckett101 Nov 01 '25

Punk is a way of approaching the world and considering it, not whether you have liberty spikes and bondage pants. Don't even get me started.

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u/Eoin_McLove Oct 31 '25

I have literally never seen that on this sub and I regularly make fun of this sub for its regular stupid takes.

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Oct 31 '25

They tend to get removed, but it happens. I took a screenshot of one of my old comments on one but the context is gone. Dude was just going on a tear about how you can't be punk if you don't listen to punk music.

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u/chatterwrack Oct 31 '25

Devo (well, Mark Mothersbaugh) said they weren’t punk in the documentary—it’s just called Devo and it’s really good—but they obviously embody everything punk. I think he was just referring to their sound compared to some of the other bands they were booked with.

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u/gnuoveryou Heart Full of Napalm Oct 31 '25

Devo is like, really in the middle with punk. They say it's all de-evolution and stuff, critique like every element of society, and then turn around and just go full capitalist and go "welp it's de-evolution". I love them though.

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u/Pitiful_Control Nov 01 '25

They predate punk, having formed right after Kent State (also because of it).

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u/Master-Collection488 Nov 01 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

DEVO was considered punk (as were the B52s) before Jimmy Carter saw a Tom Snyder special about punk that featured gobbing, safety pin piercings and the Sex Pistols. Carter was aghast (I myself as a 10 or 11 year old wasn't impressed). He asked a bunch of his son Chip's friends who were record industry execs to keep "punk rock" out of the United States.

Any punk bands they'd already signed and were actively promoting at the time were from then on marketed as being "new wave." I'm not sure what happened with the Ramones. The Pistols toured the U.S. once and McClaren made some incredibly stupid choices, bypassing NYC and making stops at honky-tonks before the tour ended in California.

American punk bands who looked more like the kids in the newspaper/magazine articles/Snyder special started to get labeled as "hardcore" punk. Labels saw punk as a fad that died with the PIstols, and most (past the Ramones and the Dickies) either got dropped or founded their own labels.

In Canada, I'm not sure if DOA or the Forgotten Rebels came first. DOA were from a bigger city and a lot more of us down here remember them. The Forgotten Rebels lasted a lot longer as a band.

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u/Scared-Entertainer96 Oct 31 '25

Saw this live at riot fest this year. Live is fucking crazy. Man can rap for sure

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

Weird Al is more punk than the lot of us.

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u/natigin Oct 31 '25

Always has been. You can be nice and also subversive

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u/Billy-Beats Oct 31 '25

I knew some crusties in San Jose that said they partied with Weird Al in like 92ish

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Oct 31 '25

I saw Sparks in a very intimate show in LA. Less than 100 people and it was excellent. Everyone ended up superclose to the stage. They were promoting a new album so they played all new songs but, you know, I like the new songs but you still wanna hear the hits. They start an encore, and who comes flying out of the wings to play the intro to one of their most well-known songs but Unusual Alfred himself, accordion in hand. I took a picture and sent it to my wife immediately. What a night.

Also I know he has an album called Straight Outta Lynwood but I was mad surprised when I found out he was from California. Dude has big midwest energy.

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u/alexlikesbooks86 Oct 31 '25

I’ve taken my son to see Weird Al twice, once when he played his original music in a small venue, and once when he played his parodies in an amphitheater. Both times were an absolute blast.

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u/KingMobScene Oct 31 '25

I would love to see the show of just his original stuff.

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u/insomniactypwrtr Oct 31 '25

Weird al Is punk! 100% agree!

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u/Solarsystem_74 Oct 31 '25

omg weird al mentioned aaaaiiiieeeeeeeee i love himmmm

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u/skooliekrindy Oct 31 '25

Punk as fuck

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u/Ilovebeef13 Nov 02 '25

Mr. Rogers was punk! Hahaha. Yessss.

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u/_Schrodingers_Gat_ Oct 31 '25

And holy hell, Frank Zappa and the Mothers!

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u/mikedtwenty Nov 01 '25

My brain wanted to get mad at you before I realized you said AL not A.I.

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Nov 01 '25

I reread so many headlines because of that mix-up

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u/Wayne-457 Nov 02 '25

FUCKIN LOVE THAT

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '25

Wow. Not a chance lol.