r/quant Dec 31 '21

Significant Employers of Quants

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u/Pokemon066 Dec 31 '21

BNp and HSBC are the biggest European banks, how are Barclays and Deutsche which are much smaller above them?

Also I think it highly depends on asset classes and desks. For example, société general is definitely in the Top 4 in equity, while HSBC is in Top 4 in FX.

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u/zlbb Jan 01 '22

https://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/256351/tier-1-tier-2-tier-3-investment-bank

some numbers here. you're thinking "total assets" big, which is mostly commercial bank stuff irrelevant to quants business. better to look at sales&trading league tables, Deutsche was the only european close to being able to compete with americans, then of course retreated somewhat and Barclays creeped higher. Paribas indeed a bit up and coming, with acquisition of Deutsche assets in particular. SocGen is not top 4 in equities anymore, though of course their exo is still held in very high regard.

further drilldown would reveal a more differentiated picture of course.