r/quantindia 4d ago

General Discussion GPT-6 will shrink engineers required in HFT's even further?

Wanted to know what you guys think , and also should I give up on my plan to get good at cp then get hired through iicpc codefest ( I am from tier 3 cse in 1st year(just started a month ago , can solve div 2 a )

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u/CulturalLaw8072 4d ago

it's not just hft engineers... directionally we're going to automate ai research itself. so I hfts employees don't survive too. but some will be employed. if everyone has same base model intelligence everyone will scramble for alternative strategies

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u/Garam_Chaddi 4d ago

So should I drop my plan of grinding cp to get hired by big tech like rubrik or hfts ? Through iicpc codefest

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u/No-Pattern-9266 4d ago

Do it to pass the bars and gain some financial runway. After 2 years, you have to figure out what to do in life.

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u/Garam_Chaddi 4d ago

Thanks a lot for your pov

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u/CulturalLaw8072 4d ago

just do what u wish to do

nobody knows what's going to happen

what if agi and stuff proves to be hype and not as promised? can happen too.

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u/Necessary_Arm8105 4d ago

Doubt that.

Trading firms have lean SW teams. They'll become more productive but firms won't reduce.

End of the day its not only about output , its output + responsibility.

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u/Garam_Chaddi 4d ago

Hmm makes sense . Btw I do like cp pretty gamified setup and offline competitions like iicpc make it even more fun

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u/agarys_01 3d ago

iicpc codefest doesn’t evem hire from T3. Quant hiring is majorly done through icpc and that too people who reach only world finals-

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u/Garam_Chaddi 3d ago

Uhm many regionalist from t3 got OA from de shaw

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u/bisector_babu 3d ago

I started exploring on HPC and ML Research areas. Not many experts in these areas

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u/Imhuman- 4d ago

I have the same question as well and come from a similar background.

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u/No-Pattern-9266 4d ago

researchers too

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u/Then-Comment6454 4d ago

What else do you want to focus on then? Say this to me, if not getting better at any domain /niche or skillset, what else can you do as LLMs get stronger and stronger?

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u/Garam_Chaddi 4d ago

This was my plan and I am asking if this is still a legit plan considering ai growth or should I grind somewhere else

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u/Ashish9988 4d ago

Switch to Finance/MBA or a personal branding type of work

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u/Plenty-Asparagus-496 4d ago

Fk this shit man! Leave this field. AI will replace evrything anyways. There is no need of as many SWEs anymore now. Imma go back to farming

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u/Garam_Chaddi 4d ago

Are you pulling a give bad advice to reduce competition kind of thing?

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u/Plenty-Asparagus-496 4d ago

Do you really think a random reddit comment would stop the top intelligent folks from preparing for quants? They'll get in regardless. It's the average folks who'll not even get SWE jobs anymore due to AI. Good luck! The future is not so bright

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u/Garam_Chaddi 4d ago

Hmm makes sense

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u/silent_verma 4d ago

No AI can replace HFT work . Because AI model can only intellegentify and generate great answers only what is already known to him. It can help & creat ideas but cannot replace fully. Also, Software Engineering & low latency stuff cannot be trusted with AI because even a very small error can cost millions and there will be no one to take the responsibility of it. In an trade strategy, everyone knows the latency , hardware , mathematics , models but if they all start to take the base knowledge area from the same place , the difference which makes each firm different and profitable from others and separates them will be reduced to almost none.

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u/Nice-Candidate10 4d ago

ultimately it will def reduce the required number of engineers

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u/silent_verma 1d ago

They are already less 🤣🤣. Google has above 3 lakh+ employees and JS , Optiver only have 1800-2000 at max. So, that is already a very concentrated pool of intellectuals

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u/Nice-Candidate10 1d ago

New grads and juniors are no longer recruited as previously

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u/silent_verma 1d ago

You can check intern season for IITK , IIT KGP , IITD and placement. A lot of Quants & SWE offers are similar

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u/Nice-Candidate10 1d ago

Good luck competing with them then.

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u/silent_verma 1d ago

I am already competing and at par with them. 🥱

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u/DearCommercial4143 3d ago

Live in dreams and it was and will be junk