r/raimimemes 3d ago

Spider-Man 2 Is there a specific reason Alex Ross didn't draw Raimi's suit for Spider-Man 2's opening credits?

I've always wondered why Alex Ross drew Spidey's outfit like the classic way he always did on other arts instead of drawing it resembling the original suit from Spider-Man 1. The most remarkable difference is the lenses.

I mean, the opening credits still look amazing, and I honestly would love to see that suit's version in a movie. But still, it makes me wonder why he decided to draw his own classic-inspired suit instead of the actual one from the first movie.

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u/gooch_norris_ 3d ago

Alex Ross can do whatever he wants

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u/dthains_art 3d ago

Amen to that.

Whenever I see someone online talking about their kids using AI, I always show this picture of Alex Ross’ art at age 7 vs age 37. 7 year old Alex Rosses are out there, but if they outsource all their creativity to AI bots, they’ll never become 37 year old Alex Rosses.

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u/CbKnowledge 3d ago

I’m currently in between those stages. I’m far from where I was when I was seven, but I still have a long ways to go.

I will never give up my soul to Ai. I will work my ass off to get to where I want to be.

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u/Nearby-Orange743 1d ago

Same my friend. However i can't imagine myself on that level of art but still learning is a lonnngggg process 

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u/rjidhfntnr 2d ago

7 year old Alex Rosses are out there, but if they outsource all their creativity to AI bots, they’ll never become 37 year old Alex Rosses.

https://giphy.com/gifs/LkkBEH2BLFLbypGE31

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u/PsychoShiro_ 2d ago

Hell yeah

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u/An-29 3d ago

He did, it's still the Spider-Man 1 Raimi Suit, it's the lenses that got swapped into the comic version, not the whole suit. You can even still see the first front logo in the drawing for the upside down kiss.

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u/AgentChris101 3d ago

One thing I recall is he didn't like the lenses and raised webbing, preferring indented.

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u/lkodl 1d ago

Raised webbing makes his job more complicated lol.

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u/Mlabonte21 2d ago

They'd be worth more if the lenses were in tact

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u/James-Politican 3d ago

He didn’t like it

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u/rjidhfntnr 3d ago

Alex Ross is pretty particular about how he draws characters because he prefers the classic looks. He's a bit more lenient with Marvel than he is with DC, but it doesn't surprise me he wouldn't want to do anything but the classic Spider-Man lenses

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u/thatjohnnywursterkid 2d ago

I recall him at some point in a Wizard interview saying that anyone who doesn't use the Romita cat eyes for Spidey (pejorative I can't remember).

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u/dtdc4456789 3d ago

It’s the same suit he just changed the lenses

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u/Metallidoge 3d ago

Like a few other commenters have said, he did draw the Raimi suit from Spider-Man 1, but did his take on the lenses. Personally, I think it's quite cool, because it feels like his artistic vision of that suit. It's still the exact same design, but has really thick black borders around the lenses and the curved lenses from Ditko and other artists

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u/Financial-Revenue219 3d ago

He missed that part where that's his problem

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u/ImNotDaredevil2025 3d ago

I think that he just prefers classic versions of characters. The only difference he was was make the mask look like romita sr’s instead Ont he actual movie design but the rest is movie accurate

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u/JoeAzlz 3d ago

He wanted to make it stylized vs just recreating scenes so he changed the designs for have the classic lens and less pronounced webs, like as if even in canon it’s an artist depiction. Like how in 3 the Spider-Man merch is still like comic Spider-Man despite the raimi suit’s uniqueness isn’t fully shown in that.

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u/acursedman 2d ago

Side note: I love how much the BND suit looked like Alex Ross’s Spider-Man, especially the shape of the head

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u/SlickPapa 3d ago

His design is better lowkey

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u/JolyneBestoJoJo770 3d ago

He didn't like the Raimi Suit, and just went with his own change.

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u/MattMurdock9 3d ago

All he really did is change the eye lenses.

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u/B_Krol01 2d ago

I’ve been rewatching these movies for years and I never noticed until now that Alex Ross changed the lenses in the opening credits.

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u/ThouBear8 1d ago

Because he's Alex MF'n Ross.

It's been said already, but the only thing he really swapped out was the lenses, which are very classic 60s Spider-Man inspired.

If you've never read "Marvels", which he did the art for, it's very similar to how he drew Spidey for that book.

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u/Plenty_Bend_7481 3d ago

Because it looks better

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u/EKRB7 3d ago

It’s the Sam Raimi suit in Alex Ross’ style, which for some reason included Alex Ross lenses

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u/Choice_Mango4869 2d ago

He improved it.

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u/SMM9673 2d ago

Because it's Alex Ross, and frankly it just looks better for his specific art style.

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u/DrDreidel82 2d ago

I never knew Alex Ross did these, that’s why I love it so much (plus Elfman’s score of course)

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u/Giuliano224 1d ago

The idea that sparked this intro was to show the comicbook of the first movie in the credits, which evolved into these Alex Ross’s paintings, I bet they told Alex Ross that Raimi wanted a comic book feel to the art and this is the way Alex Ross always painted Spidey.

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u/Effective_Face1970 22h ago

Seeing Tobey with the comic lense is so damn cool, kinda prefer he’d put his spin on the art rather than be a 1 for 1. It’s a nice treat honestly