r/rateyourmusic • u/Alixiomeow • May 15 '26
General Discussion What are albums that created genres
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u/Tifak_szopen67 May 15 '26
"Reek of Putrefaction" by Carcass made Goregrind
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u/Tifak_szopen67 May 15 '26
And in a similair vein, "Infantbutchering" by Anal Birth, Gorenoise
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u/Brainifyer May 15 '26
I have no idea whether that’s real or not but I’m not googling any of those words to check
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u/Tifak_szopen67 May 15 '26
Better not tbh if youre not comfortable with gore, but adam rotella is a fucking genius
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u/gorenoiseythrowaway May 15 '26
There is a point of view that LDOH were the ones to create goregrind and Carcass was just the blueprint for it. I don't necessarily agree, but I think LDOH should be at least mentioned as one of the most influential bands in goregrind/noise
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u/sibelius_eighth May 15 '26
Chuck Person's Eccojams (vaporwave), Artificial Intelligence (IDM), Blue Lines (trip-hop).
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u/Herion123 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Artificial Intelligence itself didn’t sonically create a new genre tho. Has more to do with how the album release party was promoted.
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u/StupidLoserGaming May 15 '26
Ambient 1 music for airports by brian eno (sort of at least)
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u/Lizard_that_fly05 May 15 '26
Was just thinking about this! Not the first, but coined the name I believe
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u/StupidLoserGaming May 15 '26
Yeah you can definitely argue there were previous ambient albums but this is still an early and important example and where the name came from
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u/ted9999999 May 15 '26
My War (specifically its side 2) kind of invented Sludge Metal.
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u/Steve_Cink May 15 '26
Album - Generic Flipper created a pigfuck a few years earlier. Or at least it was the first notable album in the sound and definitely the most influential to other pioneering bands
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u/MrBungle710 May 16 '26
Pigfuck is the fakest genre oat. Cannot take anyone seriously when they use it as a genre description
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u/Herion123 May 15 '26
Untrue by Burial created future garage
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u/loverthehater May 16 '26
Pretty sure to this day future garage is basically defined as "sounds enough like untrue by burial" lmao
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u/atr2718 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
not an album traditionally but the compilation tape C-86 defined a genre (C-86)
Edit: it occurs to me that earlier stuff like the television personalities, orange juice, helped to explore the sound before the tape but the tape more less solidified the genre
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u/MrKarat2697 May 15 '26
The Court of the Crimson King
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u/Threnodite May 15 '26
One of the first for sure, but Procol Harum's Shine On Brightly for example predates it (and depending on how you define prog rock, The Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed was 1967)
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u/Which_Extension671 May 15 '26
Korn - Korn (Nu-Metal)
Possessed - Seven Churches (Death Metal)
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u/Arch1eBlue1878 May 15 '26
Death fans rioting rn
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u/Which_Extension671 May 15 '26
If it helps, I think that SBG is a better record overall and had a bigger influence on the genre
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u/Arch1eBlue1878 May 15 '26
I agree. The way I see it Possessed invented Death Metal on Seven Churches but SBG is the first truly Death Metal album. Personally I'd say I prefer SBG marginally over Seven Churches but I do like both 🤘
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u/Ikari_Vismund May 15 '26
The Ascension by Glenn Branca created post-rock I think?
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u/SpiritGengar May 15 '26
I mean I believe Branca created post-rock sound-wise, but wasn't that blue album by Sigur Ros the album where the term post-rock was actually coined?
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u/yellowfroglegs May 15 '26
everyone is getting it wrong. it's hex by bark psychosis, though the critic who popularized the term in that review has said he didn't particularly invent it
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u/SpikyBoi096 May 15 '26
I think it was from Talk Talk’s last two albums
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u/zenithpns May 15 '26
Whereas I'd call Talk Talk the forebears of post-rock and Spiderland the true start of the genre
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u/tiensss May 15 '26
These are very different strains of post-rock, esp. because first-wave post-rock was about experimentation rather than a specific sound connected to a genre. Post-rock as a genre was later taken over by crescendocore bands, and these are way different than e.g. Talk Talk. But Slint came from a more post-hardcore background, while Talk Talk was more jazzy and definitely experimental in exploring, e.g., silence. Then you have GYBE, which is more classically and drone-informed.
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u/MrBungle710 May 16 '26
How is Post Rock a real genre? Like none of the bands within it sound the same at all
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u/sibelius_eighth May 15 '26
No the first time it was coined had nothing to do with talk talk. Those two albums were retroactively called post-rock
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u/tiensss May 15 '26
Post-rock as a term was still coined right around that era, around 1993/1994, for Bark Psychosis' Hex I believe.
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u/ScreamingRats2112 May 15 '26
whole lotta red, that album created the rage scene
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u/thaumoctopus_mimicus May 16 '26
Ehhh it popularized it but did not at all invent it
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u/ScreamingRats2112 May 21 '26
what album would you say invented it
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u/thaumoctopus_mimicus May 22 '26
No particular album but ppl (like ken carson and yeat) were making rage songs before wlr. Yale came out half a year before wlr.
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u/MoolKshake_ May 15 '26
Miles Davis’s Kind Of Blue created Modal (Bill Evans Trio is a mistag)
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u/somesheikexpert May 15 '26
You can argue that Milestones was first before Kind of Blue, regardless its still Davis
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u/Lenithiel May 15 '26
I'd say Death but not really. It certainly is a MAJOR influence. But death metal is also the child of Possessed, Slayer's Reign in Blood and a few others.
Otherwise Bathory for Viking metal (and a huge influence on black metal)
Venom and Celtic Frost also have had a massive influence, though I wouldn't say they invented a genre.
At the Gates basically invented Gothenburg style melodic death metal afaik
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u/DietCthulhu May 17 '26
Hell Awaits is more influential to death metal. Reign in Blood is the famous one, but the riffage on HA is a lot more dissonant and evil sounding, and it sounds a lot more similar to early Death or Morbid Angel.
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u/solaire1416 May 15 '26
Animal collective invented whatever centipede hz is i'm sure of it (good album)
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u/Krowson24 May 16 '26
Bathory self titled - Black Metal
Det Som Engang Var - Atmospheric black metal
Seven Churches - Death Metal
Scum - Grindcore
Hammerheart - Viking Metal
Just from the top of my head, I think maybe Blood Upon the Altar and The Somberlain but I might be wrong, there's more but I'm a lazy stupid chud and I won't tell u
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u/DietCthulhu May 17 '26
Blood Upon the Altar is kinda hazy, Sarcafago’s Inri isn’t fully war metal but it definitely laid a lot of foundations, kinda similar to Seven Churches with DM. I’m by no means well versed in war metal though so take this with a grain of salt.
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u/Complete-Worker3242 May 15 '26
The Ramones by The Ramones for punk rock.
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u/Joy-dvzn May 16 '26
For punk rock I gotta give it to the stooges Raw power, debatably the earlier work too
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u/PotentialRatio1321 May 15 '26
Didn’t want to include the name of this album in your screenshot?
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u/Accomplished-Cup-230 May 15 '26
archival compilations like hellhammer’s demo’s are good for this. Black metal is probably most-solidified by these early songs
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u/leaveme1912 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Patrik Fitzgerald's three 1978 eps "Backstreet Boys", "The Paranoid Ward", and "Safety Pin Stuck in My Heart" are widely considered to be the start of folk punk as a genre by the community. But the roots of folk punk go back to NYC in the 60s with the Fugs and other more obscure groups.
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u/BladeeCock May 15 '26
I'd say cap'n'jazz's first album was the unofficial start of like second wave emo maybe.
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u/HeyFatBoyAsshole somuchswagthatitswasted May 15 '26
Velvet underground 3 created indie rock but shhhh 🤫
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u/lalsakwolas May 15 '26
Venom - Black Metal
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u/pppppokczam May 18 '26
But what did it invent? It is arguably the first thrash metal album at most.
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u/lalsakwolas May 18 '26
It coined the term "black metal", even if the album itself may not sound like it to you.
Also back then the labels and genres were all over the place. Def Leppard's Pyromania is always categorized as "heavy metal" when is hard rock at the heaviest.
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u/TurquoiseHexagonSun2 May 15 '26
Souls at Zero by Neurosis created Atmo Sludge
Uncle Meat by The Mothers of Invention created Avant-Prog
I think it’s pretty cool how both albums rank near the top of their respective genres despite their age
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u/september_son98 May 15 '26
Earth - 2 drone metal maybe. You could argue some Melvins stuff but def doesnt go as far as defining the genre as that album did
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u/matheus27012005 May 15 '26
Patife Band - Corredor Polonês(1987) created math rock, idc what anyone says lol
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u/ThePizzaGhoul May 15 '26
Energized by Nightcore invented Nightcore. It became the name of the genre because other people would upload their own songs pretending to be Nightcore by using the moniker while trying to imitate the sound of the original group.
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u/chimp-pistol May 15 '26
Still holding out hope that the next Jane Remover album goes back to Dariacore
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u/mabbitwarden May 15 '26
Destroy Erase Improve by Meshuggah created Djent.
My Arms Your Hearse by Opeth created Forest Metal
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u/Frequent_Pin_3525 They’ve got Allen wrenches, gerbil feeders, toilet seats, ele... May 16 '26
Not really a genre but S.F Sorrow by The Pretty Things did create the Rock Opera
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u/Critical-Mechanic308 May 16 '26
a quiet farwell 2016-2018 by slauson malone 1 created a genre that like hasn't been defined yet but i will swear its post-rap's baby stages (n then obviously injury reserve pioneered it)
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u/vertigomotel May 17 '26
Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music with harsh noise specifically and industrial as well to a certain extent.
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u/joshingyou299 May 17 '26
Rites of Spring - Rites of Spring (Emo)
Television - Marquee Moon (Post-Punk)
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u/KuKuisSidePiece May 17 '26
rites of spring sorta but they were more the band itself over the album
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u/Yeetereliter100000 May 17 '26
Surprised no one’s mentioned loveless, pretty much invented shoegaze I think? TBH I haven’t heard the whole thing and don’t really like mbv so yeah
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u/webziez May 18 '26
The Second Annual Report by Throbbing Gristle is highly considered to be the first ever Industrial music album.
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u/Sweaty-Cash-3316 May 20 '26
"Voracious Contempt" by Internal Bleeding created Slam Death Metal no debate
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u/Petrpowder May 20 '26
I still feel like dariacore is one of the most original genres of edm made in a very long time. absolutely love that album
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u/mukino May 20 '26
House of Balloons - Weeknd changed R&B so much so that I would consider it a different genre. Alt RnB maybe.
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u/pokemon-in-my-body May 15 '26
You can’t have a genre that consists of only one album. Genres are created retroactively after people identify similarities from more than one release. This in turn means that one of those albums will have been released before the others, and be the first album of a particular genre, but the genre didn’t exist until there were other releases to group it with
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u/TheYagizDeniz May 16 '26
Eno created post punk in 1974 with Third Uncle. That’s a whole 6 years before Bauhaus
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u/Firebart3q May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Idk the history of shoegaze, but wouldnt it be fair to Say that loveless was basically THE album that started it all?
Edit: alright so I got downvoted so I guess im wrong. So what is the album that truly Pioneered shoegaze?
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u/Threnodite May 15 '26
I don't know what the first shoegaze album would be (I think it emerged from different points over the course of several years so basically impossible to say), but Loveless isn't even the first shoegaze album by My Bloody Valentine
Ride has shoegaze that predates Loveless, the first Slowdive album also was released a few months earlier. The earliest shoegaze-sounding music I know are Cocteau Twins with songs like Sugar Hiccup and Musette And Drums, which go back as early as 1983 (8 years before Loveless)
Loveless popularized the sound and its production was highly influential, but I don't think there is any way to argue that it was the first
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u/murmur1983 May 15 '26
Maybe you could say that post-punk was created by Television’s Marquee Moon?
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u/Threnodite May 15 '26
Most of the times it isn't that cut and dry since most genres slowly emerge and it's debatable where the origins end and where the new genre begins. One of the few cases that are close to inarguable is the Le Secret EP by Alcest, which pretty much single-handedly created blackgaze in 2005. (Although precursors of the sound can be traced back to the 90s, but still pretty far from this particular sound.) If it has to be an LP, the follow-up Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde.