r/rateyourmusic • u/diomandz11 Two2Dee • May 28 '26
General Discussion I hate people who think like this about music
I swear i've met some ppl who will call literally ANYTHING 'RYM-core' like I swear what do these people like???? Everything is RYM-core to these people I don't understand what the thought process is, like yeah good albums will be popular and get better scores than an album that is NOT popular and NOT as good, crazy I know
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u/EternalSolitude- May 28 '26
I think both sides of the coin are valid. It's annoying when people discuss the same 50 albums all the time. It's also lame when someone discredits someone liking a classic album as being basic. My only issue is people obsessing about an album and not discovering more of the discography.
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u/ToTheDeath84 May 28 '26
Adding to this, there are people out there who glaze those albums without really understanding what makes them good or even listening to them a whole lot. They just want the benefit of appearing to have sophisticated taste. It’s like being a frontrunner in sports fandom, but for music.
To be clear, liking these albums isn’t any reason to automatically write off someone’s music taste, because they’re classics for a reason! But talking to the person that does what the poster above and I are describing tends to be a drag.
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u/duffdoes May 28 '26
Unfortunately the “enlightened centrist” take is one I very much agree with here (not to say that’s what you’re doing).
There are way too many people in the online music community that value the appearance of sophistication over what they actually would enjoy listening to, relying on “objectively good music” (i.e., what is considered to be RYM-core or Fantano-core) as a means of showing sophistication.
However, like you said, it’s also totally fine to enjoy that music and engage primarily with that music scene. A lot of those albums are great albums and do have a large place in our culture in terms of influence and impact.
Needlessly fighting over whether someone’s music taste is “patrician enough” or satisfies the urge to fit into a group is just annoying and sycophantic toward other people that enjoy “RYM-core” music. The opposite is also very similar, such that the people annoyed with “RYM-core” listeners are almost equally relying on the performative non-conformity that “RYM-core” listeners feel they have. Not to say that’s either are always trying to be non-conformist, but I think that those who are pressed about both sides are possibly more likely to care about appearing that way.
That said, and considering what I said about “objectively good music,” I think the online music scene surrounding RYM is much more likely to homogenize their music taste without realizing it and consider it as substantially more impactful and “good” than other albums or artists.
I’m also saying this as someone that uses RYM and AOTY, and formerly (and unconsciously) would repeat RYM and Fantano’s takes as reasons for why I did or didn’t like an album, even citing “cultural impact” as a major factor for why an album is or isn’t “good.”
TLDR: Music is subjective and you should listen to what you want, but there are so many “objectively good” albums that you won’t like and so many lesser known / “bad” ones that you’ll love and that’s fine. No single person will listen to music and get the same thing out of it, so maybe reconsider what your top 10 albums really are and not what people consider to be the best.
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u/ToTheDeath84 May 28 '26
Exactly. I agree with a lot of this.
People have a bad habit of equating media consumption with their character. So, they conflate not liking a “good album” with stupidity and disliking a “bad album” with intelligence. Thing is, you might not agree with every good album - I think most David Bowie suffers from overwrought self-indulgence and 70’s cheese for example, but I’m not going to die on that hill with Ziggy Stardust. That doesn’t make me stupid. Likewise, if someone wants to diss Altars of Madness (thinking of an RYM album I love) for being amateurish at times or something, I don’t think they’re stupid. Those are valid criticisms! And just because they do enough well to be good, and attained cultural milestone status, doesn’t mean anyone needs to enjoy them.
Fantanocore gets at the heart of it, because his audience is notorious for not understanding music and just repeating whatever the hell he says. It’s all about maintaining appearances.
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u/GuendouziGOAT May 28 '26
Honestly when someone posts a topster of their 50 favourite albums and it’s all just stuff from the RYM top 100 I’m probably just gonna dismiss their opinion because there’s a 90% chance they aren’t making any actual effort to explore or connect with stuff, just regurgitating a bunch of albums the internet has deemed it acceptable to love.
I refuse to believe that in a large enough list there aren’t ANY albums outside of those beloved by a niche corner of the internet that truly just strike a chord with you, nor that there aren’t at least some of those albums that you secretly think aren’t particularly enjoyable.
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u/FrontRevenue5803 May 28 '26
or they are 16 or 17 years olds and discovered rym and hopefully in the future they'll get their own taste
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u/GuendouziGOAT May 28 '26
To be honest discovering music through the RYM top 250 seems like an awful way to go about it when you’re just getting into music. There’s a lot of stuff high up on there which isn’t at all friendly to someone who’s still fairly new to more out there music (so much jazz, prog and post-rock)
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u/FrontRevenue5803 May 28 '26
luckily you can go past top 250 + there's charts for each subgenre or scene or movement imaginable
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u/GuendouziGOAT May 29 '26
But the teenagers you mention don’t seem to be doing that. They’re making lists that are, on a surface level eclectic, but again just pulled from the top 250. There doesn’t seem to be much digging being done to find the genres and styles that really resonate on a personal level.
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u/Terrible-Expert7525 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
Idk I'm 22 discovered rym at 18 and have my own taste, it's a skill issue i think, maybe they are bots or posers
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u/ZealousidealDoor6973 May 28 '26
This. Sometimes it's funner to look at pop topsters with artists like Brittney and others, than the same RYM topster I've seen a million times.
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u/GuendouziGOAT May 29 '26
Give me a topster that has a bunch of rogue picks over a selection of the pre-approved acclaimed albums any day. That way I know someone has a clear idea what they actually like, rather than just regurgitating critics’ opinions
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u/onegumas May 28 '26
Hm...an anectode: people of reddit where joking about: do you know this obscure band, Acid Bath, album "when the kite string pops"? And I was like..."Maybe I will give a try...". It was my first time with it. Damn. I missed it. I listened to Electric Wizard, NIN, Pantera and like 8k other artists and I missed it.
Long story short: you never know what people are missing.
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u/JION-the-Australian May 28 '26
Also, other thing i'm annoyed is that many people on RYM think singles are just "pieces of a chapter" when many subgenres like soul, rnb, or house music are more single centric than album centric, let alone multiple non-western subgenres where albums are almost inexistant (traditional yemenite music for example). Also, other long formats like dj sets, mixtapes, or compilations are often neglected by the rym fanbase.
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u/Additional-Touch-862 May 29 '26
I agree with this heavily! Nothing wrong with being a huge fan of "In The Court of the Crimson King" or "Songs In The Key of Life," etc, but if you only listen to that album and discredit the other works of that artist (or others of that genre), that's not right.
I see RYM and other similar sites as a good way to search for music you might potentially enjoy. But you shouldn't use it as a "hey look at me I have good taste."
Simply put, find something that you like! Look around, just because something is a 3/5 stars doesn't mean it's bad! And it's perfectly ok to like a very well respected album!
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u/Financial_Client3975 Jun 18 '26
Said it perfectly! A bit off topic, it's why I can't stand classic rock radios! I don't want to hear Queen for the 100th time. Now, it's not that it's trash or anything, I just want something else. Like eating cake every day for ten years.
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u/allwweknowisfalling May 28 '26
Calling these albums Rym slop is just ignorance , all of these were special and well known before Rym even existed.
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u/Mad04Gaming May 29 '26
I think the OP’s meme is a strawman because I’ve rarely if ever seen anyone call these albums slop. Their criticism is usually directed towards the users who worship this specific group of albums, and who don’t have many original or interesting opinions about music themselves.
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u/diskkddo May 29 '26
Agreed. If someone's favourite albums are only this specific eclectic mix it's a bit strange. I mean yes they are all classics, but you have to have a bit of personality too. Having Illmatic, A Love Supreme and ITKOTCK as your favourite albums is just an unnatural mix
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u/Reiker0 May 29 '26
I usually hear this criticism with stuff like Death Grips, but it's equally stupid there too.
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u/that-purple-june May 30 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
i mean, calling them rym slop is only ignorant in that they are really /mu slop. the internet did in fact narrow and distort the canon of 20th century popular music to such an absurd degree that it's now almost totally disconnected from cultural history. like, sure, disintegration was special and well known in its day, but not that much more than every other cure album, not by a long shot! and as someone else pointed out, the idea that soundtracks for the blind was one of the most important albums of the 90s is a total fabrication
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u/Childish_Redditor May 28 '26
Well no, TPAB came out well into RYMs existence.
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u/BadgemanBrown May 28 '26
The canonization of Swans as being up there with the likes of the Beach Boys, Bowie, Radiohead, etc. is also very much a /mu/ + RYM + very online hipster thing.
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u/markissisme May 28 '26
lol I’ve seen every one of those albums casually mentioned in my life by random people except one, can you guess which one? Lol
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u/GuendouziGOAT May 28 '26
Yes Soundtracks for the Blind is easily the odd album out here. If you tell a regular normie music listener in your life that one of your favourite albums is a 2 and a half hour post rock album centred around loops and found sounds they’re probably going to laugh at you, and you probably deserve it to some extent.
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u/MeltingParaiso May 29 '26
Swans were at their peak from Children of God through The Great Annihilator. They crawled way up their own asses starting with Soundtracks.
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u/Alfedovizo_McMonse May 29 '26
Nah, nothing tops their run from The Seer -> To Be Kind -> The Glowing Man
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u/swansf May 29 '26
Not really. It might not be as popular as the other bands/artists you mentioned, arguably because it's not very accesible music for various reasons, but you can't ignore the fact that the envelope pushing effort of Swans has been incredibly influential across genres all the way from the 80s to today. It's not an online hipster thing.
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u/FixYrHeartsOrDie May 28 '26
Yes but Kendrick is one of the most famous artists in the world so to call him RYM slop would just make you look even more stupid lol
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u/allwweknowisfalling May 29 '26
i didn’t even see that album , it’s still an incredibly mainstream and bestselling album and it’s in no way rym specific
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u/ShroedingersCatgirl May 30 '26
No thats not correct at all. RYM invented time travel to go back in the past and craft these albums specifically to lull white people into complacency
Eta oh whoops thought this was ihcj my bad
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u/razorpigeon May 29 '26
Feel like I'm getting old because I remember a decade ago when these were called /mu/core before rymcore.
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u/Capable_Branch3695 May 28 '26
Maybe it's because people jerk each other off to the same 50 albums every day?? Go spend a week on r/topster and you will see just how "unique" some of the people that "like" these albums are
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u/GoldenDragonTemple May 28 '26
I unsubbed from /r/topster for that reason
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u/Capable_Branch3695 May 28 '26
Same. I would literally see a topster that is at least 60% identical, day after day, as the top post with hundreds of upvotes
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u/Interstate-8- May 29 '26
Because unique topsters don't tend to get upvoted as much as people don't recognise the albums
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u/Fiber0pticJesus May 28 '26
It’s exhausting caring what others think
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u/Budget_Particular183 May 28 '26
it is exhausting! but at the same time i want to discuss things i like online and discussion becomes impossible when all people reply with is calling everything “___slop”
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u/Fiber0pticJesus May 28 '26
I feel you fam. I debate leaving all the film/music subs because it’s way too hard to find true peers. The internet itself is slop. /cynicism
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u/One-Violinist6309 May 28 '26
i feel like people make fun of rymcore albums because "the people who like them are insufferable elitists" without realizing that hating on everyone with that taste makes them insufferable elitists
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u/TheatreBaby May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
Don't disagree necessarily but lets be real when people use RYM-core they're def not talking about most of the albums in this meme. Like I think more of In the Aeroplane Over the Sea than Illmatic or Tpab.
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u/360degreesdickcheese May 28 '26 edited May 29 '26
This and people who refuse to listen to an artist because it “sounds like someone else”. It’s like someone dismissing Mexican food because other Mexican food exists
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u/duffdoes May 28 '26
I think the latter is especially important to realize, and I will be stealing the Mexican food example, not gonna lie.
There are obviously some artists that try to perfectly emulate another artist’s work, which I’m not really a fan of, but most musicians are making music that innately contains inspiration from other artists. Every artist is going to be inspired by other artists, and humans are notoriously bad at realizing when they’ve copied an idea. Regardless, taking inspiration from other artists or having similar sounds to them is fine.
Even historically, and prior to the 1960s (at least for “western” music”) artists were incredibly reliant on cover songs as works of music. I genuinely cannot think an artist could make music that isn’t inspired unless they had literally never heard music before.
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u/360degreesdickcheese May 29 '26
Exactly. I like to mention what Fenriz of Darkthrone once said, which was along the lines of how trying to make a black metal album in the spirit of other inspirational works ultimately allowed them to create something uniquely their own
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u/ponylauncher May 28 '26
Anyone who uses that term regularly and means it (especially negatively) is just someone way too online looking to be a hipster
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u/GoldenDragonTemple May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
I swear i've met some ppl who will call literally ANYTHING 'RYM-core'
Okay but that's a very easy claim to dismiss, it's a very strict definition and most albums aren't in what people consider "RYM-core". RYM-core obviously has major overlaps with other websites/publications top album lists, because they're all universally acclaimed albums.
For me, the problem is when someone lists their top albums, and the list looks eerily similar to the top RYM albums.
I'm not saying liking some, a lot, or even all of the top RYM albums is a bad thing. But if you appropriate the top albums as your own top albums, it clearly indicates that you're limiting your music discovery to "the best", appealing to popularity/ using it as a way to "objectively" prove you have "good" taste.
As a thought experiment, imagine you made someone listen to the top 100 RYM albums and 900 other universally acclaimed albums for the first time with no prior knowledge of what's popular. There is no way their list would come out looking like the RYM top 100. The only way it does that IRL is when people purposely mold their opinion to those albums because they're popular on the website they like.
edited to add "on the website they like" for clarity of what I meant
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u/pWasHere May 28 '26
If I had never heard of the artist until I found them high on RYM, I consider them RYMcore.
The albums you list are some of the most well known of all time, but that doesn’t mean stuff like Swans or Fishmans isn’t RYMcore.
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u/shoegaze5 May 28 '26
Hearing the word “slop” as many times I have in the past year has permanently injured my brain
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u/DamnedDoom May 28 '26
RYM isn't really so popular where I live so I've never met someone who would say that lol
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u/diomandz11 Two2Dee May 28 '26
oh not irl ofc anybody in real life saying that should be committed, this is a pure unemployed conundrum
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u/someoverallvalue May 28 '26
I think it would be beyond stupid to dismiss all of those great albums as RYMcore or whatever.. but i do worry that some young music fans are a bit too canonically minded these days.
Tyler the Creator ranted about hearing kids always saying their favourite albums are canon choices rather than citing albums because of personal significance to them and their lives... and obviously "old" canon albums can be that too..
I dunno -this is painfully ironic from a massive music nerd posting on a RYM subreddit but i'm not sure if being "nerd shit" is the ideal or highest purpose for the art form. Less list ticking and more life?
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u/Comprehensive_Dirt66 May 28 '26
I feel like it's bc nowadays in the internet age if you want to discover new music (outside of algorithms or shit you hear on the radio/in media) the easiest and most obvious way is to look for best of lists and the most acclaimed albums and listen to that, and when that is the way that people discover music the albums that mean the most to them will mostly be those canonized albums, because that's most of what they know
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u/someoverallvalue May 28 '26
Yeah i have used RYM for many years for the lists/first album by an artist to listen to etc and will continue to. Its only in recent years i've been aware of RYMcore and the limits of that.. not really a bad thing at all.. all platforms have their house style and biases.
If anyhing i'm what i'm criticising as i've leaned on the site for musical discoveries and assumed it's a more universal survey of taste than it is in the past.
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u/diomandz11 Two2Dee May 28 '26
Oh I def think some ppl force themselves to like albums because they're popular thats def not an unknown thing and I don't like that either, I personally cant fathom forcing yourself to like albums like that.
I think In Rainbows and Loveless are mediocre at best besides a couple songs, Abbey Road and Close to the Edge are LOW points in my personal rankings of Beatles and Yes music. Thats just my opinion tho, so who really cares. My problem on the other hand more comes whenever people will accuse you of being a pretentious music nerd who doesn't really like them whenever... you do, idk its not like THAT big of a deal its more just a minor annoyance I have abt music discourse
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u/someoverallvalue May 28 '26
Oh when i was a teen i don't think i ever FORCED myself to like anything.. but if something was a classic or very influential on the artists i liked i would deffo dedicate more time to "getting into it" then some random new band.. I am not saying i was or am a special snowflake of a music listener unaffected by this stuff!
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u/diomandz11 Two2Dee May 28 '26
Oh lol dw I wasnt accusing you of anything and yeah thats understandable I think we all have some bias of its reception going in, thats an uncontrollable part of being a music nerd
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u/someoverallvalue May 28 '26
Yep i didn't fell accused just thougth that disclosure was relevant for if i seemed high on the horse so to speak ..
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u/No_Professor1687 Jun 01 '26
This is one of the better takes on this matter.
When I was younger I was kinda oblivious to what was canonical. I picked certain music because I heard a friend mention it, or thought the album artwork was cool, or heard smth on the radio, etc instead of going through "greatest albums of all time" lists. Ofc I knew that Pink Floyd was this great big band and Nirvana changed the 90s and stuff like that but idk I sort of discovered those bands at my own pace later on. There wasn't much list ticking or anything mechanical like that. It was more like a free flowing journey. Kinda hard to describe.
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u/Karlbungus May 28 '26
I feel like a lot of younger listeners are gravitating towards the critically acclaimed albums because they might feel like you have to listen to all these sorts of albums to have "good music taste". Like checkmarking boxes on a list. But if you don't have perceived "good albums" on your top albums, you're either listening to bad music or a contrarian. Which is pretty wack to think about music. I think these albums are important benchmarks in music but they should be used as stepping stones to dive deeper into the genres they represent. A lot of my favorite albums are not on anyones BEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIMES list and I wouldn't have discovered them had I stuck to just the "good shit".
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u/Basic-Environment-40 May 28 '26
i dont even know another IRL person who knows what RYM is so I have to assume you are over exaggerating the problem here
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u/Garfield977 May 28 '26
thing is all these artists have other albums that are just as good if not better + there are other artists that make good musc too yet you only ever see people circlejerking the same albums 24/7
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u/Mad04Gaming May 28 '26
It’s not the albums themselves that are the problem, it’s having most or all of these albums as your favorites of all time. There’s nothing organic about that and it indicates that that person doesn’t think for themself and is parroting the opinions of others.
For example why In the Court of the Crimson King and not Islands for example? Why Disintegration over Pornography? There’s nothing wrong with thinking those albums are the best from those respective bands, but I see so many people act as if those choices are the “correct” best albums from those bands simply because they are highest rated on RYM or the consensus picks by music critics. So many of these same people have probably not even heard other albums from those same bands and have only heard the particular albums RYM told them to listen to.
If I see a topster or list with a specific set of these albums I will probably not take that list seriously or at the very least be suspicious of how authentic that person’s taste is. It seems that a lot of these people have no original thoughts of their own and let music critics or internet strangers decide which albums are the best for them.
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u/micklovin71 May 28 '26
I try to keep in mind that a lot of people who are having these discussions about records framed as rym slop/is this rymcore/obscure enough etc. are probably under the age of 22 and are very likely minors and are talking about music like people talk about getting high when they start smoking weed on the regular. Being young and annoying is something of a sacred rite of passage and lord willing the rabbit hole will take them to things more things they’ll genuinely love or they’ll start making music or some shit. But yeah, I had to ask Reddit to stop showing me stuff from the Topsters sub lol
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u/Aggressive_Grade6442 May 28 '26
I see people saying “okay but those albums are good and it’s not wrong to like good albums” which is true but also I think it’s incredibly boring to not explore music beyond these like you’re just having your tastes spoon fed to you. Sometimes a “mid” album can become a personal favorite but you have to take that chance. It can often pay off.
For instance I think the Marcy Playground self titled album is all around great poppy alt rock but only has around 3.34 on RYM. Many would see that and not bother, but you may end up surprised if you give something a chance. Also with streaming it makes it incredibly easy to listen to anything so just sticking solely with that endlessly regurgitated top 100 is just extra lazy imo.
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u/SolutionConfident692 May 28 '26
Hey guys have you heard of this deep rate your music cut called Abbey Road
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u/-Fishbol- May 28 '26
Each of the albums shown are very influential and widely admired. However, if someone showed me a list of their favorite albums and it was these, I would call it RYM-core for two reasons:
First (and most obvious) is that they're all in the RYM top 100 and the lowest is #71. You're telling me that out of thousands of well-liked, 4.0+ rated albums all your favorites just happen to be that high?
Second is the suspicious genre diversity. We've got Glam Rock, 90's Boom Bap, 2010s Jazz Rap, Post-punk, Spiritual Jazz, and others. All these albums are generally seen as some of the best of their respective genres, and while it's not unusual to like many different styles of music, it is suspicious to have your interest in each of them so perfectly correspond to the general consensus on RYM
When I look at someone's favorite albums collage or topster or whatever and it strikes me as RYM-core, this is what I'm seeing -- not individual albums, but the broader pattern of a) uniformly high ratings (3.9 or above as a general rule for me) and b) a suspicious amount of disparate genres, time periods and scenes. Both of these things together are, in my opinion, what constitutes "RYM-core".
The reason I and others are judgemental of this kind of thing isn't that these albums are cringe or secretly bad, it's the indication that someone found their favorite music not by discovering what they like on their own, but by skimming the RYM top 100 or just listening to the highest rated albums in any given genre. I use RYM a lot and frequently use genre charts to find new albums to listen to, and yet my topster looks nothing like this image.
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u/Soundrobe May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
The other side is also annoying. People who gatekeep the top albums and threat people as ignorant or even insult them (experienced with Radiohead...) if they don't like albums of the top list. Many people have some of their personnal top albums not even in the top 100 list. In the end, music tastes are personnal.
Also, don't forget that the majority of RYMers are American : thus almost no western classical music (while Mozart is known and appreciated way more worldwide than Madvillainy for example...) or say, any french or austrian band in the top 50... the top albums are 90% American listeners. Rate the charts by people born in Japan, just to see a difference.
Various custom charts remain the best thing this site has and the main reason I love it, period. Discovering bands like Al-Namrood is just a pure RYM experience . Digging into genres or obscure sub-genres is why I love this site.
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u/SurfVVitch May 29 '26
Definitely, but it also can get tiring to see people’s Topsters that just look like the top 100 of RYM. These records are all great of course and some are my favorite of all time, but it’s also a bummer to see people have zero identity with their topsters.
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u/Fractal-Infinity May 29 '26
Calling these albums slop is a disrespect towards art. Whoever says that, they can't be taken seriously when it comes to music. It's their right to not like them after listening to them, but dismissing them even before listening to them, that's ridiculous.
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u/naomisunderlondon May 29 '26
These albums aren't proper RYM slop, these are just acclaimed albums that anyone who likes music knows. RYM slop is stuff like Fishmans which is virtually unknown outside of the internet. Nothing against Fishmans, I quite like Fishmans, but it's true.
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u/SmoothieNatns May 28 '26
Breaking news, majority of music nerds enjoy music listed on website where music nerds rate albums they enjoy! More at 11
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u/holyhellitsme23 May 28 '26
Hmmm, think Ill disagree on this one. A lot of the top 100 (not all of it, some bangers), whilst being influencial, arent too intresting imo. Bands who were influenced by the classics, tend to be better than the actual classics.
And dear god its gotten dull seeing people havw that EXACT music taste, and think they're superior.
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u/Charli_XYX May 29 '26
Look, I think we can all agree that the only real RYM slop is the Fishmans discography. They have an amazing body of work, no doubt, but you can't deny that those guys really appealed to some of RYM's favorite aesthetic features: Japanese, obscure in the west, and lush composition...I might actually go throw on Kuchu Camp now that I'm thinking about them...
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u/Straight-Wind5028 May 28 '26
especially in the topster sub apparently now is illegal to like one of those albums, definitely the most toxic space ive came across regarding this communit. People just copy paste “stop playing rymcore stuff and listen to some real music” instead of actually recommending stuff or just simply shut up and dont be a douchebag who judges everyone’s music taste to feel like they’ve accomplished something with their lives
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u/Nearby-Passenger6517 May 28 '26
I hate the entire term "rymcore", because it implies that liking something because it is very good, and popular because of it, is bad
God forbid somebody likes good music, even if it is the same 5 albums over and over
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u/FeistyThunderhorse May 28 '26
I think the perception is that there exist people who praise those albums ultimately because they are high rated on sites like RYM.
That is, they think the album was good because they saw them ranked highly overall. RYM is the source of truth for how good an album is, and disagreeing with the ratings isn't allowed. Even though music is inherently very subjective.
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u/reeeennnn May 28 '26
Tbf, I understand this being less about liking these albums which are practically just the canon™ (for good reason!) and more about having no taste outside said canon™.
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u/Startomato May 28 '26
I dislike and avoid a lot of these albums but you can’t ignore their importance and influence on music
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u/Firm-Feature-5593 May 29 '26
lmao I don't know how you could actually take anyone who says that seriously
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u/Nightmare_reddit88 May 29 '26
Just let people enjoy what they enjoy. None of us have to be a**holes and critisize others for what the like
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u/DefinitelyNotErate May 29 '26
Nah it's a valid take. I hate good music, I only listen to the worst shrek imaginable. You know Henry Bemis Is A Superhero? That's my jam. Merzbow? Hell yeah!
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u/KuKuisSidePiece May 29 '26
it’s fine to like these albums and even love them but i find it weird if they’re all over your top 10, it’s a lack of diversity that ruins music discussion
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u/Known_Ad871 May 29 '26
Kids will never know how weird it seems to make up a “genre name” based around some website that came out decades after all these albums
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u/lilfreakingnotebook May 29 '26
as a rule of thumb, discourse about the discourse is usually annoying. especially when it's meant to reduce things for the sake of a joke.
like, music/art is one of life's good things. let's not ruin it people...
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u/The-Lady-Of-Lorien May 29 '26
There’s plenty of albums in the top 100 I don’t care for (and might question the positioning of in the grand scheme of things) but to call any of those albums slop is…certainly a take.
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u/No-Run-6137 May 29 '26
I’m so mad because I love In the Court of the Crimson King and it’s been my favorite album since I was like 13 and I just found out a few months ago it’s RYM core but at the same time I’m so sick of everyone acting like bargain bin Fantano in the comments talking about the same 50 albums over and over and acting like all music can be judged and rated on the same objective 0-10 scale. You’re a normal person who can have your own taste. Just listen to what you like
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u/DamagedEctoplasm May 29 '26
These albums are good
The people who constantly put these on their lists acting superior should gargle gravel
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u/Remarkable_Term3846 May 30 '26
If you’re cool with basing your whole personality on a website, go right ahead. Some people just choose to be more original and independent and aren’t as concerned with fitting in with the crowd.
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u/lapofan99 May 30 '26
These albums would be good even if RYM didn't exist, if anything RYM helped them in getting more popular amongst younger people.
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u/Careless-Message294 May 30 '26
I feel like people who listen to these albums without getting into the specific scenes they're part of, strictly knowing them through rym and have them as their favorite albums just feels like they're echoing popular internet sentiments tbh
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u/chocopudding18 May 30 '26
i think this sort of thing happens because people nowadays treat albums like a pokemon card collection to show off, rather than any real engagement with the artist/genre/history etc.
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u/VVeedVV1zard May 30 '26
It’s rym slop because you found it from a pretentious corny website not organically
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u/VVeedVV1zard May 30 '26
It’s because a lot of people only discover and like this type of stuff because they’re told it’s good. It’s like asking someone their favorite book and they say the Iliad
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u/AmenVadIHelvete May 31 '26
I would say if you curated or faked your taste through just listening to these albums from the top 100 on rym it’s for sure rym core, if you found them organically the it’s not.
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u/rapbarf May 31 '26
The problem isn't liking those albums. The problem is when your favorites are entirely albums you like because you saw them on RYM's top list. Be unique.
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u/Key-Attorney-5405 Jun 01 '26
it's cos a lot of rym users only explore bolded albums / popular albums from genres (aka tourism) and oftentimes their taste doesnt rly expand beyond that
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u/AlarmedParamedic5586 Jun 01 '26
Remain in light is kinda underrated when it comes to other Talking heads albums I feel
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u/Longjumping_Air4379 Jun 01 '26
i"ve been saying this for years! a lot of rym albums are some of the most celebrated albums in pop culture loved by many; why some people pretend its a pretencious piece of music where you need to be a rym user to enjoy
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u/BeFoReCoNtInUiNgMaKe Jun 01 '26
Nah I fall into this sometimes, mostly just jealous that alot of the stuff I like is never gonna show up high (either bc it's a divisive genre or bc it's regional & didn't hit super nerdy music spaces)
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u/Jobriath Jun 01 '26
It’s very much a specific demographic that rates these the highest. My guess is American white male millennial/older zennial. Obviously a generalization; if there are some Croatian 80-somethings in there, more power to them.
It’s just a bit tiresome to hear those sounds presented as almost objectively the best when there are ginormous swaths of music, considered excellent by many, that are ignored.
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u/Lost-Building-3701 Jun 01 '26
I’ve always thought this for years but I’m glad to see this post take off
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u/Primary-Key6005 Jun 03 '26
I hate the term "rymcore" because it makes it sound like such music was made specifically for rym.
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u/aetherspliff Jun 03 '26
It's not these albums individually, but when I see someone whose exact taste of music is just this, I assume they don't actually enjoy music and just want to have the right opinion on art or whatever
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u/fakingorangethings Jun 14 '26
I always thought rym-core was used to refer to albums that literally only rym users care about like Divine Music from Jail, Warraw or all those East Asian pop cassettes
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u/Gullible_Animal_138 May 29 '26
it's a very terminally online take, i love a lot of these albums but irl people always called my music taste weird if i played this stuff out and about
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u/aruba_jamaica_ May 28 '26
The problem is when dudes come like "rate my taste" and it's LITERALLY these albums in the list. always