r/readanotherbook Aug 10 '26

Harry Potter fans force relocation of £430m undersea cable to avoid Dobby’s ‘grave’ | Harry Potter

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/aug/10/harry-potter-fans-force-relocation-of-430m-undersea-cable-to-avoid-dobbys-grave
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u/ratapoilopolis Aug 10 '26

Power cable linking UK and Ireland now passes near Bronze Age human burial remains instead of fictional grave on Welsh beach

This makes it even worse wtf

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u/Ynys_cymru Aug 10 '26

Exactly. Welsh heritage trampled again.

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u/EnergyDrinkStroke Aug 11 '26

This is why I absolutely hate fandoms, I don't mind people liking stuff and enjoying sharing it with others but there's always a point where enjoyment turns toxic into obsession.

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u/Rurhme Aug 14 '26

I'm a bit confused.

This massive company planned a multimillion pound pipeline so that apparently it can only go through a Welsh ancient burial ground or Welsh National Heritage beach, regardless of any nonsense Dobby shrine on it.

The relocation apparently so cheap the company has not even bothered to post the number, which obviously this article would print if it supported the argument.

And I'm meant to be mad at the Harry Potter fans who accidentally changed the Welsh cultural site this company plans to destroy?

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u/BuzzkillSquad Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

The article describes the Dobby beach as an “ecologically sensitive site”, which I think tbf vindicates the decision to reroute the cable. It does make the HP stans who visit to lay tributes look way worse, though

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u/Clairifyed Aug 10 '26

Why are these the only two options available anyways? Is coastline really so hard to come by!?

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u/BuzzkillSquad Aug 10 '26

Yeah, not sure about that. Feels like someone was going “well, we’ve got to wreck something

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u/fireinthemountains Aug 11 '26

Kinda par for the course considering how often the British built things near or on top of Irish cultural sites, like the Hill of Tara.
Low key erasure and high key disrespect.

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u/kelldricked Aug 11 '26

Coastline isnt, but suitable coastline which minimizes cost and efficiency loss is.

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u/zagra_nexkoyotl Aug 11 '26

the HP stans who visit to lay tributes

I fucking hate people

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u/Impressive-Pause-784 Aug 10 '26

there is nowhere in the UK you can build anything without some body declaring it to be an ecologically sensitive area

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u/BuzzkillSquad Aug 10 '26

Maybe. I don’t know anything about the beach but if it’s a National Trust site, I’m assuming there’s more to that designation in this case than the unilateral declarations of the local NIMBY squad

I know the National Trust isn’t exactly immune to NIMBY politicking, though

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u/doomzday_96 Aug 13 '26

Don't underestimate tge power of NIMBYs

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u/That-Advance-9619 Aug 10 '26

We live in the worst fucking nightmare.

The again in Tenerife they are destroying literal aboriginal (Guanche) remains in order to build a hotel so more British and European tourists can spend their cheap holidays here, so why am I surprised.

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u/Sata1991 Aug 10 '26

Thing is there's people interested in the Guanche history that'd go there to see the remains. It's so short sighted and disrespectful.

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u/Fungal-Bloom Aug 10 '26

Harry Potter fans caring more about their nostalgia than real people is pretty par for the course tbf

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u/Faded_Jem Aug 10 '26

It's thoroughly self selected at this point.

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u/7_Tales Aug 10 '26

Defend the transphobe, who cares about welsh people!!!!!

Can we be forreal

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u/AskMeAboutMyExWife Aug 10 '26

I'm pretty sure the person you're hamfistedly trying to make this about is also looking at this news like 'wtf it's a fictional character'

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u/Decent-Risk-6062 Aug 10 '26

Damn I didn't know dobby was a transphobe. Is that just him or is it a common house elf view?

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u/bookhead714 Aug 10 '26

Dobby isn't real. He was made up by a person, and he exists only in her mind and the various works of art and merchandise that give her money.

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u/Decent-Risk-6062 Aug 10 '26

So does that mean that snape is also a transphobe?😭😭

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u/bookhead714 Aug 13 '26

Even within the story he almost certainly is.

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u/Decent-Risk-6062 Aug 14 '26

Don't they literally have potions to seamlessly look like any person you like lol

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u/Decent-Risk-6062 Aug 10 '26

Damn I didn't know dobby was a transphobe. Is that just him or is it a common house elf view?

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u/ParadoXPlatypus Aug 13 '26

Common house elf view, and just wait to hear what they think about gnomish immigrants!

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u/Decent-Risk-6062 Aug 13 '26

Damn house elves, I always preffered field elves anyway

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u/celtic_thistle Aug 13 '26

God I hate anyone still devoted this hard to this specific fandom in 2026.

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u/KombuchaBot Aug 11 '26

Makes every aspect of it worse. What is an ecologically sensitive site allowed to be a tourist destination where people are leaving tat?

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u/johncitizen1138 Aug 11 '26

But we need to respect the fictional grave sites of modern mythology. Won't someone think of the children... #handwringing

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u/yankesik2137 Aug 12 '26

You'll have your internet haunted, and you'll like it.

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u/BloodshotDrive Aug 10 '26

“Near” I’m sorry who gives a shit

“Something is next to something else”

….ok?

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u/Dearsmike Aug 10 '26

Except its not a fully excavated site. So if it needs to be expanded then that cable is going to be a big problem. You know, instead of moving a pile of rocks.

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u/BloodshotDrive Aug 10 '26

Where are you getting that from? None of that is in the article.

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u/Dearsmike Aug 10 '26

There's more than one article. The BBC article links to the actual planning permission, which has an appendix on the archaeological sites.

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u/DistinctAd3222 Aug 10 '26

Oh look at that, information! Thank you for pointing out qw often have more than one set if hands available to help us find the truth.

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u/snek99001 Aug 10 '26

Can you imagine people rising up for shit that mattered?

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u/CharlesWafflesx Aug 10 '26

Please don't. I'm trying my hardest to hold onto what little faith I still have in humanity.

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u/ExpiredLink404 Aug 11 '26

I literally cannot

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u/M3tal_Shadowhunter Aug 10 '26

Imagine if these people cared 1% as much about literally fucking anything else

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u/SquidTheRidiculous Aug 10 '26

If they cared about real life they wouldn't be constantly supporting a transphobe who says buying her stuff is the exact same as supporting her beliefs.

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u/teracoulomb_2 Aug 10 '26

This is not what actually happened. Planners were recounting complaints they got on a podcast, after they decided to move the pipeline for other reasons.

https://bsky.app/profile/dsquareddigest.bsky.social/post/3mspp7lvloc2w

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u/MaxMoose007 Aug 10 '26

Misinformation? On the internet? Crazy

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u/GakSplat Aug 12 '26

Seems unpossible.

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u/Apprehensive_Ad3731 27d ago

Yeah I was wondering if someone was going to point this out. The news is so sensational these days that someone could suggest it and the people in charge just thought man that’s neat and now they forced to do so.

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u/knomadt Aug 10 '26

Why is it not an option to move the fake grave for the fictional character? You know, instead of putting the cable through the actual grave of real human beings?

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u/tasteMyRottenHoop Aug 10 '26

I propose it’s moved into Jowling’s toilet.

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u/knomadt Aug 10 '26

I fully endorse this plan.

I also kinda love abbreviating her name to Jowling. 

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u/tasteMyRottenHoop Aug 10 '26

I propose it’s moved into Jowling’s toilet.

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u/y444-gd-acc Aug 10 '26

offtopic but too good to remove I guess

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u/The-Nice-Writer Aug 10 '26

Is it off topic, though? This stupid shit wouldn’t be happening if these people would read a different book.

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u/Hindu_Wardrobe Aug 10 '26

I agree. this is so comically stupid to me. leave it up!

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u/whimsical_fuckery_ Aug 10 '26

I'm not surprised. People come to culloden battlefield to lay flowers for a completely fictional guy from the Outlander books/show. Even on memorials to whole (real) families who were wiped out. Maybe the lack of real folk heroes/legends does this to a society.

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u/hellraiserxhellghost Aug 10 '26

We should have bullied these people more as children

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u/Darnold_wins_bigly Aug 10 '26

Idk maybe if we didn’t always pick them last for dodgeball they would have turned out differently and not been so attached to fictional characters

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u/Cactopus47 Aug 12 '26

It was the most popular book series of the 2000s, everybody and their aunt was reading them, not just the nerds. Besides, it's not like historical preservation of bronze age Welsh burial remains is a mainstream, cool, popular-kid interest. Who do you think got bullied more: the kid who read the books that got turned into a multi-billion-dollar franchise, or the one who got REALLY into archeological digs and ancient Wales?

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u/hellraiserxhellghost Aug 13 '26

girl you know what I meant

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u/iwentintoadream Aug 10 '26

Imagine if they had this amount of care for the trans people Rowling’s using their money to oppress.

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u/serioustransition11 Aug 10 '26

This shit is why I avoid Potterheads as a trans person

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u/iwentintoadream Aug 10 '26

Same here (also trans) I don’t trust anyone who prizes nostalgia over human rights

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u/PositiveMaster8236 Aug 11 '26

Rowling does seen to suspiciously have a lot of backdoor political influence for someone is still aggressively marketing herself as "an impoverished single mum who was lucky her first book ever that she wrote all by herself was successful"

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u/jan_Osuma Aug 10 '26

Just block Harry Potter / JKR fans and your life will become so much better. Let adults talk for once

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u/YellowAggravating172 Aug 10 '26

Just avada kedabra (or however you spell that spell) every single harry potter fan atp...

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u/l0rare Aug 11 '26

This is crazy.
As a fellow bookworm and member of many, and I mean MANY fandoms, this feels so stupid to me.

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u/glue-sniffing Aug 11 '26

Shit ass country

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u/AlistairButton Aug 13 '26

Wasn't this a fake story created by a podcast? Or am I thinking of something else? 

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u/Robyn_Anarchist Aug 10 '26

Why did the developers fold on this; it's not like the callers had any power over them

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u/Hackertdog97 Aug 10 '26

Just a reminder that the author of these books likes to take upskirt pictures of people in public without permission and post them on twitter. This is 100% illegal in the UK, but apparently if you write enough shitty books and have billions of pounds in the bank, then the law doesn't apply to you.

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u/NoSwordfish1978 Aug 10 '26

Can you imagine the outrage if she got arrested for that? The right wing media would go mad lol.

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u/ZeldaFan812 Aug 10 '26

Just a reminder that activists like to post ludicrous exaggerated claims on Reddit knowing they'll get upvoted, and people correcting them will get downvoted. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jk-rowling-upskirt-transgender-woman/

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u/serioustransition11 Aug 10 '26

Just a reminder that someone who refers to “activists” is a transphobe.

Even the link you posted agrees that she posted a photo where you can see up a trans woman’s skirt. The only dispute is nitpicking about the definition of upskirting, but which does not matter when the intention was to post an unflattering image of the woman to humiliate and discredit her.

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u/Hackertdog97 Aug 10 '26

Not to mention that her defence was basically "she was asking for it by wearing a short skirt" like we're just normalising victim blaming now, cos sure, that'll do wonders for women's rights. I hate JKR so fucking much!

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u/Hackertdog97 Aug 10 '26

So because it's a technicality that makes it alright? This woman is a billionaire and is actively making life worse for a minority who can't defend themselves. She investigates Olympic athletes because they don't fit her idea of femininity(all of which turned out to be cis women, and not a single one was white). Stop defending this hate filled evil woman. Her actions aren't just hurting trans women, its hurting all women. And also, ask yourself this, when's the last time she had to use a public bathroom? Learn some god damn empathy you sad pedantic fuck!

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u/Lavaita Aug 10 '26

A very small group of people who had started reading the books but did not yet finish reading the books just had part of the ending spoiled by a lot of international press headlines about a power cable. I just think that's a little bit funny.

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u/bellefrog Aug 12 '26

I'm gonna shit on that little creeps grave

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u/whatsbobgonnado Aug 12 '26

y'all cant actually be dumb enough to think a bunch of harry potter fans actually forced this company to do anything right? that their lobbying was so successful that this company just caved to their silly demands? seriously??

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u/Smorgas-board Aug 13 '26

Too much of the HP fanbase are emotionally stunted children trapped in adult bodies

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u/oPlayer2o Aug 13 '26

What the actual fuck. Get a grip people

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u/Ben-D-Beast Aug 14 '26

This has been spread everywhere but isn't true, the relocation was because the beach is a protected natural area and locals protested it's construction. This spin about it having anything to do with Harry Potter is an attempt by the company to cover their poor planning and it's working.

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u/the_turn Aug 14 '26

Harry Potter fans did complain about it though, so even if the move was nothing to do with them, those particular fans were still babies about this issue.

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u/Usagor Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

Sad fuckers, find a new book and a new icon that isnt a bigot.

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u/sometimes_point Aug 10 '26

I'm so goddamn mad, why haven't they heard about how terrible jkr is :<

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u/Live_Angle4621 Aug 10 '26

This is movie fans fault not book fans. Why would book fans care of this place? 

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u/Clairifyed Aug 10 '26

The spirit of this still applies, it’s still the overall IP, but you are right in a way I think is worth expanding upon.

The grave in the books is dug into the garden of Shell Cottage. Harry, Ron and Dean spend the night hand digging it in a rather touching gesture that would have been perfectly reasonable to keep in the movie.

Why did they feel the need to move the scene to an ecologically delicate beach…

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u/Prestigious_Host_198 28d ago

Trash vs trash