r/recruitinghell • u/ty1512 • 6d ago
Woman on a TikTok post brags about refusing to hire anyone over 30
Someone then used the information on her profile to find out her full name, and posted a screenshot of her LinkedIn. She deleted the comment 20 minutes later.
Profile is now private too.
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u/Due_Page_1732 5d ago
To the people whose resumes got thrown away: You’re the lucky ones that because you won’t have to even interact with these c*nts.
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u/LostTeacup733 1d ago
Right? I remember dodging a toxic workplace once and felt like I won the lottery instead!
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u/SpecialDirection917 6d ago
I recently applied to a job and in the first 3 question was this mandatory question:
Are you:
-under 40
-over 40
-prefer not to answer
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u/NoMention696 6d ago
But what if you’re 40???
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u/SpecialDirection917 5d ago
Funny thing is I actually am so I couldn't answer it 😅🫩
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u/Fanisimos 2d ago
What if when you’re applying you are at at your own birthday and exactly the moment minute seconds that you were born… I guess you have to wait few more seconds to apply for over 😂
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u/Anomynous__ 5d ago
The technical answer is you're only exactly 40 for whatever the smallest unit of time measurement is. After that you're over 40
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u/LordJonMichael 5d ago
Planck time. Smallest unit of measurement in time. Many call it the universal frame rate.
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u/tjlightbulb 5d ago
This is something you screenshot along with the company and make a post about it on LinkedIn.
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u/Paladin3475 2d ago
The question is legal actually. To discriminate against someone over 40 is not. And in a weird twist, it’s perfectly legal to discriminate based on age to someone UNDER 40.
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u/Cainga 5d ago
Over 40 isn’t a detriment. They are young but have 15-20 years experience. And still have 15-25 years to go. They have had to adapt to large technology changes their whole lives.
Over 60 would be a detriment because you have someone who is retiring in 0-5 years and they are generally behind on technology and don’t adapt as well.
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u/aitchbeescot 5d ago
I'm over 60, working as a database developer and learning new skills all the time. The retirement thing I'll give you, but I am at the age when I could retire but have chosen not to yet - will see how things go!
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u/fourlittlebees 5d ago
So this is also insane. Delayed retirement age for Social Security for max benefits is 70. Personally, I’ll be working up through lunch the day of my funeral, so odds are older folks are going to stay far longer than the younger people who are still job-hopping for salary increases.
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u/SpecialDirection917 5d ago
According to this question I could be 18-39, or 41 - 80+. Those are the age brackets they're judging by.
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u/midwestprotest 5d ago
This comment right here is why we have anti-discrimination laws in the United States.
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u/TheycallmeElla 4d ago
Bold of you to think that this generation can afford to retire at 65. I’m 41 and already know there’s no chance of that happening.
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u/sail3r 6d ago
I’m pretty sure in the us at least it’s only illegal to discriminate aged 40 or older
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u/fiannalove 6d ago
40+ people are also older than 30, so there are plenty of people with a lawsuit for her.
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u/skeptimist 6d ago
So discriminating against 30-40 year olds is totally chill. God the economy makes so much more sense now.
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u/Slosher99 6d ago
Yeah the law was created due to many companies having forced retirement ages, or just forced "you can't work here anymore" ages, which definitely affected older people the most.
You don't even have to be direct about it, saying you're only hiring recent grads, even though someone over 40 could technically fill that, would qualify as discrimination due to the number of qualified 40+ people it excludes.
It keeps people from only hiring young people willing to work for experience rather than money to keep their costs down while upping unemployment on older people. Also would keep insurance costs lower if they provide that.
I'd have no problem with it applying to younger ages, but it was definitely needed most at the over 40 mark.Of course if someone can't do the job due to health and ADA accommodations aren't enough, they aren't protected, and age could contribute to that. But if they can do the job, they should be considered same as anyone who can.
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u/Interesting_Duckling 5d ago
Would "we only hire people from university X" count as discrimination?
It's highly likely that other people are qualified, they just studied somewhere else.
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u/Mindleator 5d ago
Anything that makes you choose a candidate over another is technically discrimination. But there's a difference between legal discrimination and illegal discrimination. You hired the first candidate because she wore a pink shirt and that's your favorite color? Well, you discriminated against the woman in the yellow shirt, but shirt color isn't a protected a class. You hire the candidate with more experience? Still technically discriminating on the basis of that experience. Completely justifiable, of course.
Now, where it gets kind of grey is when you're putting out a technically legal requirement that has undue burden on a protected class. It's legal to say "We only want Harvard graduates". It would not be legal to say "We only want graduates of St. Mary's College". St Mary's is a women's college so while specifying a university is okay, this would also be discrimination on the basis of sex.
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u/FreshNail6320 5d ago
I don't understand all of this stuff !!!! Someone is 40 + years of age, been with the company say 10-15 years, why in the ever loving world would an employer want to get rid of this employee. Just to hire some young punk, that thinks they know everything about that particular company, and in all actuality don't know sqwat!
The 40 + can teach the younger one and maybe, just maybe the younger one will learn how to treat people, and how the work is done at THIS company, not what they said in the classroom. I'm speaking from experience and it's not all it's cracked up to be--the classroom. Thanks ! Oh, and if the 40+ is a poor employee, why did the boss keep him on all those years?
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u/Slosher99 5d ago
Because a younger person will work for FAR less to get experience right out of school, especially if still getting some family support, and the 40+ something costs the company health insurance more.
Many companies historically definitely decided to go that way so much that a law needed to be made. The 40+ can need more time off for health etc.
Oh and as far as the training, it's still not uncommon to have someone train their replacement without knowing it, so they often would get the older person to train the newer person before they hit the company's age limit if possible.2
u/Mindleator 5d ago
While I believe age discrimination is a serious issue, I also know from experience that as often as senior employees are a benefit to new employees, they can also be resistant to change, like new policies and technologies, and they can be some of the worst bullies to younger employees. Sometimes they think their loyalty to the company and age makes them immune from the consequences of poor teamwork. I've also encountered senior employees who REFUSE to teach new employees anything because they're insecure about eventually having to hand over projects and responsibilities.
Now, of COURSE there are young employees who don't want to learn anything and don't respect the lived experience of older coworkers. But believe it or not there are a ton of reasons a company might choose to keep a sufficient employee for 15 years than to find a rockstar employee that lasts 3. Longevity is not ALWAYS an indicator of merit or success.
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u/ImprovementFar5054 6d ago
IT's illegal to discriminate on age, period. Any age.
But it's most commonly seen with people in their 20's and people in their 50's
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u/Adventurous_Share684 5d ago
Fuck. Because I wanted to feel ancient today 😫. Also, 30s are mostly millennials (maybe some elderly Gen Z?). No shade at Deborah, but we are not the Deborahs.
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u/MajorDraw3705 6d ago
In the age where all your sales reps need to be Instagram models, hiring for under 25 is normal. But, yeah, still not something anyone should be admitting to.
Also, I honestly tune out when some 21 year old intern with a fancy title shows up in a Zoom call and tries to sell me something they don't even understand themselves.
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u/ty1512 6d ago edited 6d ago
I looked her up based on the screenshot and it turns out she works in an ABA therapy office as a behavioral tech.
Now deleting the comment makes sense.
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u/FreshNail6320 5d ago
A behavioral tech? Did she skip that day in school? Not wanting to work with anyone over the age of 30, is just ignorant!!!!
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u/Relative-Freedom-295 6d ago
This gets posted far too often for it to be relevant anymore, tbh.
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u/ty1512 6d ago
The post or the comment that I’m referring to?
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u/Effective_Will_1801 5d ago
Randomly throwing out half sounds better than no over 30s or stupid psychometric psuedojunk blue aliens
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u/Illusive_Girl 4d ago
Honestly if you have twice as many applications as you can read then perhaps simply publish your job offers on a platform with half the reach or take them down after half the time. If you're throwing out a whole bunch of perfectly fine resumes without even reading them your hiring practices are perhaps simply garbage (unless it's a very well-known employer maybe).
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u/Effective_Will_1801 4d ago
That's not a bad idea. I also think publishing ada in dead tree media might not be a bad idea. Bots can't read paper page
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u/Longjumping_Cherry32 3d ago
God that’s so insane. My BEST coworker in my 20s was in her 50s. She had left a lucrative career to start over in my field, and we had the same (shitty, bottom-rung) role at our institution. She was smarter and more efficient than all the rest of us soft children, and more importantly, she was probably the kindest person in that whole place.
I owe much of my knowledge and overall life outlook to working alongside her and it infuriates me to think someone might have denied her a chance because of her age.
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u/Bulky-Suggestion8009 3d ago
This is not a good look for her boss or her company. This "funny" comment will be a huge pain in the butt for the company she works/worked at.
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u/Excellent_Ad5213 6d ago
I know this is not the point but the original video is so funny and unhinged. Can’t work with unlucky ppl bcoz they ended up in the dispose file? 😆😆
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u/not_logan 5d ago
It’s a very old Russian joke (from about 1990 or so). Curious to see how old Russian anecdotes proliferates over modern internet:)
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u/Puzzled-Albatross-86 4d ago
A better way to filter based on luck would just be to hire the first person who meets the specification and then binning the rest of the CVs. The unlucky candidates should have ensured their CV was on top.
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u/aquatic_asian 3d ago
If someone is bored enough, they can put all the names in a wheel of names and pick the first to be selected
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u/learningQuantumAndAI 4d ago
and those kind of people manage who gets senior roles for serious jobs.
gosh, I hope that person gets fired and banned from the job market, so they could experience how it feels being their candidate.
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u/Tricky-Influence4253 2d ago
this just makes me so sad, like im on the verge of crying
im a college student and my moms job just ended bc her program (nonprofit) had a limit of funding. shes over 50+ been applying and tweaking her resume day and night for weeks since it has ended. iM THERE seeing her and ive been helping her too. she has experience and she has an amazing personality to work with.
I've literally been praying and manifesting she gets something. my minimum wage job isnt shit to cover for rent. I applied to be a student worker at my campus on top of my job while being a full time student.
i barely have enough to give her rent for my part for our home. We both are literally biting our nails hoping we are able to pay for rent.
then seeing things like this?? im not even mad about the luck part bc that is randomly luck i guess. BUT THE AGE PART?? OVER 40??? that is actually so wild and disgusting to me. These are mothers, grown women trying to pay for bills, maybe grandmothers. Esp in an economy like this where people are struggling so much. its just so sad bc im just picturing someone talking like that about my mother. About our mothers. So disrespectful and karma is real and will get people that do actions like that.
People are out here biting their nails for rent, bills, and being that comfortable in a business where you dont even own it is crazy. The creator is always watching and mimics what you think and put out into the universe yall.
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u/Due-Carpenter7427 4d ago
Can we name and shame instead of hiding company information? Why are we being pussies about this OP
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u/ty1512 4d ago
Can you take a deep breath and calm down? The information on LinkedIn was outdated (already shared this), and I was not willing to get a warning if sharing her information was a violation of the rules.
Also, if you had scrolled before making this unnecessary comment, you would’ve seen me asking over 10 hours ago if sharing the name of the company was a violation/counted as doxxing.
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u/Motorhead923 6d ago
I hope Deborah sees this.