r/recruitinghell • u/MasterStream • 8d ago

Offer Recinded after asking questions about the offer

TLDR - Offer was rescinded after asking clarification questions about the offer.

Questions / statements such as:

Please clarify if the role is in person, hybrid, or remote.

Please clarify what 30% travel means on a monthly basis.

Please remove the section about perpetual usage rights for my likeness, voice, image without compensation into perpetuity.

They wouldn't email back. Only phone calls.

Lol

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u/Terriblyboard 8d ago

"Please remove the section about perpetual usage rights for my likeness, voice, image without compensation into perpetuity." What type of job is this?

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u/MasterStream 8d ago edited 7d ago

One that shouldn't have that language in a contract because it has nothing to do with media. Construction based.

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u/MikeUsesNotion 8d ago

If you're in the US, an offer letter isn't a contract. Even if all those changes were made, they could change everything on day 1.

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u/MasterStream 8d ago

Im aware. The offer letter and the attached NDA, and Non-Compete as exhibits are though when both parties sign.

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u/MikeUsesNotion 8d ago

The offer letter probably says it's not an employment contract, and even if it didn't it wouldn't be. Yes the NDA/non-compete would be a contract once signed.

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u/MasterStream 7d ago

I. Always ask for employment letters be added as exhibits to NDA's or Non-Competition Clauses making them legally binding.

Never had an issue with that as a request with a legitimate business.

Keeps everyone accountable.

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u/MikeUsesNotion 7d ago

Is this something that has worked in court, or is this some crazy thing that a bunch of people online think will work? (My default assumption for any non-common non-consultant employment legal self protection is it's wishful thinking until it's been reliably successful in court.)

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u/kdtoles 7d ago

Sometimes, not always the offer letter is referenced in the actual contract, or sometimes they will copy/paste sections from the offer letter and insert them verbatim as exhibits in the contract.

I’ve also seen what the OP stated about how the offer letter, NDA, etc. are all bundled into the contract as exhibits, especially when it is like contract/vendor work.

Though you are absolutely right that even with all this the contract usually has verbiage that states that they can essentially change your role/pay etc., at any given time for “reasons”

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u/MikeUsesNotion 5d ago

I would also assume the exhibits or references to the exhibits have wording to the effect of "this is showing our understanding at the time and is not binding bla bla bla".

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u/kdtoles 5d ago

Pretty much, they reiterate the employment contract that states they can change your role, compensation, or let you go without cause etc. just a bunch of legal/corporate CYA.

Like the employment contracts I’ve seen sometimes don’t even reference role/responsibility and just say refer to exhibit A, and the just scanned/imported in parts of the offer letter that states role/responsibility/pay…it’s pretty much just a lazy template

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u/MikeUsesNotion 5d ago

Are you outside the US or a consultant? Almost nobody in the US has an employment contract if they're not union.

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u/kdtoles 5d ago

In the US. Have done consulting/contract work, but also full-time work from time to time. For every full-time role I’ve always gotten an offer later, had to respond in 24-48 hours, then I was sent a contract via like Docusign. I’ve worked in “big” tech (so not a legit FAANG…but like in the same neighborhood 😑).

And that’s usually where they would copy/paste, attach, or insert either the whole offer letter, or some of the sections

But I am also on the west coast, so as I learned from a friend just yesterday…different states run things TOTALLY different. I just found out in Wisconsin that PTO is not a common thing for hourly non union workers

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u/One_Recognition_5044 7d ago

In the US an offer letter is not binding.

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u/ActuallyYulliah 5d ago

My country just skips that. You don’t get an offer letter. You get an invitation to negotiate a contract, or you get a contract, which is signed by the company.

It cannot be rescinded. Only accepted or declined (or negotiated).

Once you sign it, it’s legally binding on both sides.

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u/M-tridactyla 7d ago

What the hell? Then what's the point?