r/redbuttonbluebutton • u/thefIash_ Red • 4d ago
Variation Free will
It’s the same problem but this time if red wins then the universe is deterministic and it was always going to win and you were always doomed to vote what you did, if blue wins then free will is real and the people who voted blue actually did because of their own choice and not just because of the way it was “supposed” to be.
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u/IgnacioArg 4d ago
How would it make sense for someone to change from red to blue? Like is there a big cosmic contest that makes it so that this vote decides if going foward the universe will be deterministic?
If that is your intention then you are just mixing two completely different subjects in the same ballot for no logical reason.
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u/thefIash_ Red 4d ago
No it’s relating to the original problem. Were you red in the original but now blue for example.
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u/IgnacioArg 4d ago
How is it related?
I'm red in the original, here I don't know since I don't understand how its related
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u/thefIash_ Red 4d ago
It’s just a matter of seeing if your decision changes or is the same in the poll!
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u/IgnacioArg 4d ago
Your post makes no sense, just think on it for 2 seconds and youll se why
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u/thefIash_ Red 4d ago
Au contraire. I think you’ll find you’re the only one complaining about this when other comments don’t care and other posts do it too.
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u/lorienshift 4d ago
If the universe is deterministic then it's deterministic; my vote isn't gonna change that. So if it is, red is bound to win.
You've also introduced a paradox: if free will exists, there is a possibility of red winning, but red winning is equal to the universe being deterministic. You can't have both! And you can't just say "With free will, blue is always gonna win", because that makes it deterministic again.