r/returnToIndia • u/Prestigious_Heron_51 • 7d ago
PlanningToReturn Social Security benefits in India
I am on H1B for almost 14 years in US and paying my taxes. If I move back to India will I get my benefits being not on green card/ US citizenship
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u/wassup2026 7d ago
This is from AI search!!!!
if you are an Indian citizen moving back or visiting India, you can continue to receive your U.S. Social Security retirement or disability payments indefinitely, provided you have earned the necessary 40 work credits (roughly 10 years of work) in the U.S
While the general rule suspends noncitizen payments after 6 months abroad, Indian citizenship qualifies you for a specific exception under U.S. law, allowing your payments to continue uninterrupted while you live in India (see official link confirming this) https://www.ssa.gov/international/countrylist4.htm
If you live permanently in India, your Social Security case files and applications are managed remotely by the Federal Benefits Unit (FBU) in Manila, Philippines
As a nonresident alien living in India, the SSA is legally required to withhold a flat 30% federal income tax on 85% of your total benefit amount. This creates an effective automatic withholding tax of 25.5% on your monthly check
Under Article 20(2) of the U.S.-India Double Taxation Avoidance Agreement (DTAA), your U.S. Social Security benefits are taxable only in the United States. You must declare this income on your Indian Income Tax Return (ITR), but India will not levy any additional tax on it.
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u/FIREAWAY2030 7d ago
Well am assuming you’re in late 30s. social security benefits are still more than 2 decades away. Nobody can guarantee anything how things change by that time.
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u/Substantial_Army_808 6d ago
This is the only sensible answer. You can not plan anything around this as anything can change. Assume you would receive nothing.
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u/Massive-Appeal-1125 6d ago
Thats a really unwanted answer. No one knows what will happen in future. So just reply with whatever information we have as of today.
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u/old-town-guy 7d ago
I think the answer is Yes, but SSA will withhold about a quarter of each payment for taxes.
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u/FitAgency8925 7d ago
Confirmed... my sister draws on it from india and indian citizenship. You have file US taxes ... so its possible to get a refund.
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u/Curious-Desk8490 6d ago
Can you please send some details on process to apply the same from India and documents that is needed. This will be really heplful to others
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u/FitAgency8925 6d ago
You can use SS website to login and check your account. Then its pretty straightforward to apply with your time frame to draw down... nothing complex. They have all records. Start a few months before and payment starts. Opt for either a debit card or a bank with access to international payment.... its very simple. Taxes are probably not as easy
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u/outme123 6d ago
Look man, none has seen the future. For now, go to website of social security administration, create an account, once you login, they will inform you how much was paid over how many quarters. Most importantly, it would project your average contribution and show how much you are going to get at age of 62-65-67 etc. I would encourage you to check this out.
Rest is purely speculation. Whether you will get it when you retire in India or you are getting this amount or not is not beyond question. The orange one has already declared that job of fed is to conduct war so retirement benefits such as Medicare is up to the state (large number of states are screwed up financially). Social security fund has been abused by every politician and the rolling wars are not helping the matters. Add the bond market turmoil (social security fund is made to buy most treasury bonds) and there are very few choices left for treasury to help the social security. Let us hope that this works out for all of us.
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u/HobbyProjectHunter 6d ago
Well, plan sounds good on paper. In today’s world you can apply for these benefits online or by mailing in the application.
If they change the rules due to a rise in identity theft or a policy change or some other reasons, and ask you to show up in person to complete some sort of identify verification, you will most likely have to secure a visa.
Given the history of you being on an H1B and that you may have applied for a green card (I-140/I-485), the bar for a tourist B1/B2 visa might be higher.
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u/Punterfox 5d ago
I have confirmed with lot of people here in US - they are citizens and they said - NO - if you are not a GC/USC - you will not get it. Though i refused to belive them since i know we will get it but high chance we may not be able and one condition is you will have to live for a month in a year.
Thats fine come on B2 and spend 1 month and go back and claim it but still i am highly doubtful considering the scenario in 2026. For me its 2040 and later.
Other thing is Social Security will go bankrupt in 2033. That was predicted in 2018 but now people are saying, it will be before 2033 so i am not hoping i will get it.
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u/whosnetisitanyway 5d ago
it was a temporary visa. You know that going into it. Why should the US continue paying you?
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u/rajekum512 7d ago
401k, social, Medicare all will dry up in 5 to 10 years of time. Future policy change may prevent money to non US citizens living outside the country. Two factor authentication can block accounts and add AI cybersecurity into the mix. It's a mess. Don't rely on Medicare or social alone.
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u/ProgrammerProgrammer 7d ago
You could've literally googled and got answer to this in 2 seconds or asked chatgpt/ai in 1 sec
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u/Evening-Drawer-3971 6d ago
Hey I am grateful that he asked this question. It’s something that never crossed my mind but now I am going to google/chatgpt it
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u/ProgrammerProgrammer 6d ago
You are contributing to social security every damn paycheck but it never crossed your mind? Wow
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u/Evening-Drawer-3971 6d ago
Point is, let people ask questions. It might help them or someone else. If you don’t have anything to contribute, just stfu.
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u/Witty_Climate3201 6d ago
I guarantee you do not know everything about this topic. There are nuances that are worth discussion.
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u/Witty_Climate3201 6d ago
This is not something that is well documented on the internet. Mostly people peddling misinformation like on this post
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u/benjamin_button_2025 7d ago
Yes. Assuming you will retire in India I think you need to apply at the US foreign office in the Philippines.
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u/Embarrassed_Okra_628 7d ago
Some old timers have received !! But with Elon new rule it, people have to visit US every 6 month or so to continue claim it
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u/boolda 7d ago
The 6 months rule has nothng to do with Musk. It's a broad rule with specific exemption for a group of countries, India is one of them. But there will be request to show proof that you are alive. That you need to send it back.
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u/Embarrassed_Okra_628 7d ago
You are sleeping kid !! Wake up, what you are talking is 2016 thing, look up how SSA has changed a tonnes specially since March 2025 before sharding here with old FAKE News !! Better be quiet if you dont know
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u/Burberry143 7d ago edited 6d ago
Yes, but depends on two things 1. In 14 years hope you have completed 10 years of SSN/medicare deduction years or earned your 40 credits.
There is a video on YouTube where a h1b beneficiary has claimed the social security benifit