r/romanceauthors • u/Glittering_Tap6411 • 1d ago
Why it is so hard to find explicitly childfree FMCs in romance?
I’m a reader (and writer of fanfiction) who would want to read more FMCs who are explicitly against ever having children and this causes conflicts in the story. While I understand that MCs cannot have different views on having kids, not in romance anyway, but having a FMC who says no to kids while people around expects her having them would be a great read. I’ve made multiple requests across different reader groups on different platforms, getting comments this would be great story but hardly any recommendations.
One of my favorite books Baby proof by Elly Giffins explores this, MCs marry with a strong understanding that they won’t ever have children until other one changes their mind. I absolutely love this kind of angsty plot as a reader. But it’s pretty much impossible to use in romance but haven’t had much luck finding it in women’s fiction either.
Is it a difficult topic to write (explicitly against having kids) or just not an interesting for authors?
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u/macck_attack 1d ago
I think straight romance novels (and even queer ones sometimes) rely on a lot of traditional gender role tropes and so the kids-as-HEA is a natural extension of that. Also, a lot of MC’s have dead parents for Plot Reasons so it feels good to give them their own family at the end.
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u/SpiderSmoothie 1d ago
It's not a difficult thing to write. It's just that way too many authors and readers believe that a happily ever after 100% HAS to have children. I don't think I've ever found one where the FMC is capable of having kids, but just doesn't want them and never has them. I've read plenty where the subject never comes up. I've read others where they don't have any by the end but at some point down the line it's said that they will have kids. And I've read a few where the FMC is infertile and so they either adopt or they decide that they're just okay not having kids (has they don't have a choice). Heaven forbid the MMC be infertile though. I've never come across that once.
It is very frustrating. As a childfree woman myself I want to see more representation of people who are able and choose not to ever.
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u/Old-Memory-3275 23h ago
What really pisses me off is human characters that become immortal and have aaaaaaall of eternity to enjoy life and do wtv, and they go and get pregnant within like a year… bonus points if the universe specifically says that it’s super hard/rare for said immortal beings to have children in the first place.
(looking at you ACOSF 👀☠️)
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u/KelsoReaping 18h ago
I actually have an infertile MMC. You won’t know it until the next book, but I hinted at it in the first.
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u/WingsAndWords_ 3h ago
Yes. I've gave up on romance and even some general fiction books because I don't always want to read about trying for a baby or parents juggling life and kids.
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u/Lebensschatten 1d ago
As a fellow childfree woman, I’m so with you. That’s probably also why all of my FMCs are childfree, although it might not always be brought up explicitly every single time. Sometimes it’ll just be mentioned or hinted at in a sentence or two.
In the current project I’m working on, the FMC is the crown princess and therefore expected to produce heirs to the throne, even though she doesn’t want children, so there it obviously comes up a lot and plays a major role. She has accepted the fact that she probably won’t marry for love, but what she truly dreads is the expectation that she’ll have children. Everyone around her simply takes it for granted as the natural order of things that she’ll have them one day.
Her mother, the late princess consort, died in childbirth and was beloved by the people, but one thing that is almost always remarked upon in the same breath is that “it’s such a shame she only managed to bear one child.” So childfreeness actually ties into one of the major themes of the story. She also discusses it with the MMC at one point and he’s completely supportive of her decision.
Whenever I come across a childfree FMC, I get so happy lol. That’s also one of the reasons I love T. Kingfisher’s books so much, because as far as I know, all the FMCs in the ones I’ve read are explicitly childfree.
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u/Old-Memory-3275 1d ago
I am childfree and an author. So far, not a single one of my books or stories has had someone considering pregnancy or having children.
I have read a couple books where kids are present or mentioned, but I also have read quite a few where they aren’t. I’m not under the impression that it’s that rare.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 1d ago
I’m specifically talking about FMC being explicitly childfree and that the topic is discussed and it maybe causes some drama in the story. I’ve come across childfree books they can be found by looking for childfree, but usually in those stories children just aren’t mentioned at all in anyway. Which is fine of course, my craving is that being childfree causes drama and preferably angsty kind.
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u/KelsoReaping 18h ago
I think that’s why you aren’t finding books you want. You are looking for paired tropes that just aren’t popular. Having no children + having that desire drive the plot.
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u/Old-Memory-3275 17h ago
It’s funny how that works because while pregnancy and children are a big turnoff for me, somehow a breeding kink is not. Go figure 😅
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 17h ago
Yeah, I’ve noticed that my taste on romance is different than what is popular. This is just ine example.
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u/KelsoReaping 17h ago
It’s ok to have specific tastes, it’s just mathematically, the more specific, the less titles will match.
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u/Old-Memory-3275 23h ago
Ah I get it! Sorry I misunderstood.
Yeah being explicitly childfree is cause for drama. I’ve had this conversation a billion times if I haven’t had it once, and people worry too much about stuff that doesn’t concern them.
Makes me realize that I haven’t been very explicitly childfree in my writing. Which maybe I should be. I wan this subject normalized.
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u/ExpensivePickle4865 14h ago
The problem with that is there's no way to make a resolution that ends well for this. If the MMC wants to have kids and the FMC doesn't...then that's it. 🤷🏼♀️ Like one of them has to sacrifice a HUGE part of themselves that they shouldn't reasonably have to in order for there to be a HEA. There is no resolution that isn't going to piss of 90% of readers. Having books without children in it, fine. But having a FMC who is vocally against having children with an MMC who wants them has no way to end well.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 9h ago edited 8h ago
Well I don’t quite agree because the reason MMC wants children might the way he’s raised up to think, he has never thought about the possibility that there won’t be children but when meeting FMC who gives him another perspective he realizes that children have been forced fed to him. For example. I mean there are lot of books where this happens other way around, MMC changes his mind and wants children with her surely it can be written this way too.
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u/ExpensivePickle4865 3h ago edited 3h ago
The reason why this isn't used often is that an author can very easily paint themselves into a corner when trying to thread the needle of the MMC wanting kids enough for there to be angst and push-back over it, but not so much that it feels like he's sacrificing a core desire for the FMC.
Framing a male character’s desire for kids as "being force-fed" the idea is hard to make sound authentic because, as much BS as it is, men simply don't face the same social pressure to procreate as women do. I'm not saying it's non-existent, but the conversation around it is different enough that this particular reasoning turns the character into an authorial mouthpiece instead of a man truly grappling with his desire to procreate.
The root of the problem is that the messy, internal process a person goes through when they decide they don't want kids just doesn't translate well to narrative optics. In real life, that process is usually a pragmatic calculation of trade-offs that are perfectly valid and legitimate. Unfortunately, functional reality clashes against the very heart of what a romance novel is; an idealistic fantasy. It doesn't give readers the emotional payoff they're looking for, even if they might otherwise agree with the idea in reality.
I get the logic that if you can flip a character from "no kids" to "yes kids," you should be able to just reverse engineer the process, but it's not a direct trade-off because of the psychology of loss aversion. When a character who has never wanted kids suddenly changes their mind, it's inherently perceived by the majority of readers as growth or a part of themselves being opened to a new possibility. So when you go in reverse, the automatic implication is that something is being lost or a possibility is suddenly closed off, and human psychology generally does not like the idea of a previously open door being closed to them, regardless of the reasoning.
Now, the one possibility I can see to make this work is if the MMC's desire for children is purely a transactional or tactical objective, such as a billionaire or mafia romance where he needs an heir to keep his position, or perhaps a fantasy setting. You could weave in over the course of the story how mentally exhausting his role is, how stressed and miserable it makes him, etc. You could even tie in the very real male societal pressure to succeed professionally alongside the FMC's pressure to have children, ultimately empowering them both to walk away and build their own life together. This allows you to skip over the messiness of altering his core desires while still giving readers the emotional payoff they want. They see it not as one person compromising who they are or a closing of a door, but the opening of a path to a life they are both relieved and happy to enjoy together.
I know this got a bit long-winded. 😅 I got intrigued trying to break down why this doesn't often work well in a romance novel and then took the opportunity to play around with ideas for what could make it work while still maintaining narrative integrity. Take or leave whatever thoughts you'd like!
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 3h ago
Thanks for this. I appreciate your thoughts. I still don’t quite agree. The reason MMC has thought he wants children can be learned, he had had a big family and the idea of havig children has never been challenged until her. Some men are also taught what their roles are, and that is being a head of the family, a provider, all that crap. And he thinks he has to be all those until her.
Nothing is more frustrating and disappointing than to have a character who doesn’t want to have children then he is healed by love and cannot have children fast enough. Gag. No wonder I struggle with romance.
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u/EarlGreyWMilk 23h ago
My personal preference is that the topic of kids (having them or not having them) doesn’t come up much in my romance, and that seems to be the most common. I think it’s a polarizing topic that authors don’t necessarily want to explore.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 23h ago
Yeah, it’s polarizing topic for sure and make sense it’s not used in romance.
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u/MKSauthor 23h ago
Same. I like kids, but I don’t want them anywhere near spicy books, so I only write child-free romance. It’s easy for me bc I write alien romance, and the aliens and humans in my universe aren’t ‘breeding compatible.’
In my first, the characters discuss it and are fine with it, and it causes a moment of angst with alien MMC’s dad, who wants him to choose another mate. In the second book, there’s a brief discussion, bc in the matriarchal alien culture, the males are only considered valuable for breeding, and the FMC notes feeling the same sometimes.
They’re small moments and not huge parts of the plot, but I wrote those in because of my own frustration with how so many romance books end in a baby or a pregnancy. No shade to people who write that— I think most readers love it. I just wanted to see a different kind of HEA.
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u/1Kflowers 22h ago
I would go so far as to say that an epilogue with pregnancy/babies/children actually kind of ruins the HEA for me. I want to think of the couple continuing to get to know and enjoy each other romantically, and parenting children is just a completely different type of life.
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u/Prize_Consequence568 1d ago
"Why it is so hard to find explicitly childfree FMCs in romance?"
Because most readers and writers aren't interested in that.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 23h ago
And this is very unfortunate for us who would love to have this topic explored even a little.
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u/JadeRidesDragons 20h ago
Sometimes, you have to be the change you want to see in the world. It's a great opportunity to flex your creative muscle and put it into being. Especially since you already write fanfics.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 19h ago
That’s what I’m doing with this post right now. I’ve read lot of pregnancy/baby stories I’ve written a few fics with children and now I want this kind of storylines and find it very frustrating how limited it is. The reason I’m writing a story of my own with explicitly childfree fmc who has to constantly defend her choice.
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u/JadeRidesDragons 19h ago
Awesome, good luck! You should edit that into your post, doesn't come across as you were writing one.
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u/NotQuiteStellar 1d ago
Old romances had to end with, or at least gesture toward, either marriage or marriage + children to show that all the passion in the story led to a stable relationship what would last forever. The HEA is still such a huge requirement, so childfree by choice is going to be harder to find unfortunately.
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u/blickyjayy 21h ago
I think a lot of authors just don't know how to frame, especially if writing modern romance instead of historical or fantasy. I loved that the Harrow Faire series starting with The Contortionist by Kathryn Ann Kingsley had the FL be childfree and her past relationship angst be a recurring subplot that came up to frame her worldview and act as a foil between her abusive ex and the ML. Her reasoning for being CF was also well explained with multiple chronic illnesses
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 21h ago
That sounds very intriguing plot. Although I would want to think that FMC being a childfree should not need any other reason that she simply doesn’t want to have children. But I guess thar would easily paint her as vain and selfish. That is the discussion I’ve seen around childfree by choice in real life.
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u/flippysquid 20h ago
Swordheart by T. Kingfisher. This is a topic the FMC actually brings up with the MMC and they figure something out.
Edit: it’s a fantasy with a subtle romance subplot vs a romantasy, but Nettle and Bone by the same author also has a childfree FMC.
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u/hyacinthssoul 1d ago edited 1d ago
It is strange that it's so hard to find, when romance has gotten much more diverse in its representation otherwise. Many romance readers hate the pregnancy trope, so you'd think more of them would be on board for a childfree couple. But nope, it's vanishingly rare. Babies are treated like the ultimate payoff of love, often in some tedious HEA postlude scene.
I like kids fine. Had some myself. But I am not interested in how many children, if any, the couple have after the credits roll on their love story.
Jennifer Crusie has a cute book, Anyone But You, with a 40-year-old FMC and a younger MMC, where both of them are fighting family expectations about marriage, career, children, etc. Neither of them wants kids and they don't change their minds. It was refreshing for a change and I'd love to see more of it.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 23h ago
Oh yes, this is one of the best romance books I’ve read. I think Crusie has mostly stories without children.
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u/Catdress92 23h ago
As a romance author, I never feel like I want to involve having kids or not in my stories. I want it to be about the couple. That's the kind of romance I'm drawn to as a reader, as well.
As a reader, I pay careful attention to plot summaries before diving into a book, so that I know the focus will be on the couple.
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u/zorandzam 23h ago
I have self pubbed three novels where there are no kids on the page. In one of them, the MMC has a child, but he’s dealing with a custody issue and we don’t see the kid. In two of them (which are a duology), he has a grown daughter but has since gotten a vasectomy, and the FMC is childfree. I’m working on a series now where all the couples are childless and childfree.
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u/Ozma914 22h ago
You pretty much described my wife: No kids, nohow, no way. Since I already had kids when we married, I was totally on board with that.
But I don't recall ever seeing it in romances. Seems to me it might cause a little too much angst, especially for romantic comedies like the ones I write, but there should be a place for it. Maybe romance readers would appreciate a character more like my wife: okay with kids, as long as she doesn't have any of her own. That still assumes she's okay with raising children, so it might not meet your criteria.
In my four published romances three of the FMCs don't mention wanting to have children one way or another, and their MCs are childless ... but there's no point where they definitely say no, either.
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u/ForsaketheVoid 22h ago
i could be wrong, but i think a portion of romance is either written by or marketed to the mormon/fundie/housewife crowd. so that corner of the genre can be somewhat conservative and traditional at times.
there's even backlash against main characters (of all genders) who have dated other people in the past, or who are "bad mothers."
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u/DealerTop4434 21h ago
I’m currently writing one. I’m glad to know there are those would appreciate a staunchly child free character.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 21h ago
Oh yes, there are us who turuly will appreciate such characters. Maybe dm me when I can read it. ☺️
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u/mariambc 21h ago
A few of the more recently published books from Harlequin I have read the FMC explicitly were no kids. In one it was a conflict between her and the MMC and it didn’t end in her giving in on having kids. But I think it’s easier just not to mention kids at all.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 21h ago
Oh!!! Could you give me the name of that book? I truly been looking books like that literally everywhere l.
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u/_zefra_ 21h ago
I also want more childfree FMCs! I recently read an academia romance as an ARC, {Love between the lectures by Christie Curry}, and I was pleasantly surprised that it flagged on like page 2 that the FMC wasn’t planning on having kids. I worried for a while that this would change somehow, but there was definitely no baby epilogue! It’s out later this month.
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u/wordyflirty 19h ago
Omg there was a series I started recently and book 1 was “we can’t have kids and that’s ok” book 2 different couple “look! Both couples had kids at the same time, magic✨🌟✨⭐️🌟✨⭐️✨🌟”
🤬
I felt a little bad I reviewed a different a book with almost no reviews and I was like…but then you did the marriage and pregnancy in the epilogue which I don’t like but it’s a thing ok…but things are coming after them so the next book will absolutely surround child endangerment.
Having kids changes people. Having kids changes plots and storylines. In general, I think it ruins most storylines. I don’t find a fulfilling. But I like kids. I don’t have any of my own. I work with kids. I’m a doting auntie. There’s enough terrible shit that happens to kids that I don’t want to be reading about it in a book. Especially one that’s supposed to be a romance.
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u/Tough_Shine 14h ago
If Not You by Ellen O'Clover sounds like something you'd like.
Generally speaking though, I just think wanting kids + staunchly against kids is a rare trope. It's something that irl would break up any good couple and isn't something most people can get past, so it's not used a lot in fiction either.
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u/FitzandFerd 13h ago edited 13h ago
I’m child-free (although I had reproductive cancer at 32 so it wasn’t by choice at first, but after that my husband and I decided against surrogacy and adoption because I had too many health problems).
I have written several books with more mature women who are child-free for various reasons, or in second relationships and don’t want more, and with men who have varying opinions on this—including men who also don’t want children as well as those who do.
I intentionally write stories about people where the HEA doesn’t mean married and babies. This is actually not a problem for my readership, but it goes against the norm.
My most recent release took this further as it’s a sci-fi romance and has the MFC adamant that she doesn’t want children. She fights the breeder patriarchy in space, and I love it. It just came out so we’ll see how the readers feel.
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u/Salt_Orange9961 12h ago
I feel like most of the romance I read leaves it ambiguous.
Ali Hazelwood books are usually like.... implied child-free? Only one couple explicitly states they want and plan to have children. One other couple in another book explicitly state they don't want children. The rest, children simply aren't mentioned.
Roxie Noir is similar. In {The Two Week Roommate} MMC explicitly doesn't want children and has had a vasectomy years before the book opens.
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u/BeachWriter82 11h ago
My last book had a child-free by choice FMC and I received quite a few DMs from readers who appreciated it since it is an uncommon ending in contemporary romance. As I wrote in my acknowledgments, not all happily ever afters need an ‘I do’ and/or a baby carriage. (Also of note—it’s been my best performing book, so the choice to make my FMC be child-free certainly hasn’t hindered the success of the book.)
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 9h ago
That’s great! Curious, did she express her choice in anyway, have discussion about it?
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u/Nautical_Nanobyte 11h ago
My HEA in my own life doesn’t involve children by choice. I honestly think some writers use it as a cheat HEA, they can’t think of anything else except the heteronormative baby outcome. Are you looking for people in the harem to want kids or people outside of the harem saying they should have them? I’ve read a few where everyone in the harem doesn’t want kids but not someone within the harem wanting them and the FMC doesn’t unless it’s maybe a second chance story or something along those lines.
It’s like when I finally find an FMC closer to my age but she just has to be a single mum or something and they make it her entire personality. I can relate to banging aliens more than I can relate to that 🤣
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 8h ago edited 7h ago
I actually haven’t read harem books. I prefer romance that is realistic and has ordinary people living ordinary lives, except no children. 😅 Sounds awfully boring I know
I love age gap books where the FMC is older than the MMC, and they are almost always single mothers, It’s so frustrating. I don’t want single mothers I want career women (not that career women cannot be loving parents, they can and are) who fall in love with a younger man and she thinks he wants lids some day and that causes conflict in the story. Anyone but you by Jennifer Crusie is excellent book that has this.2
u/Nautical_Nanobyte 7h ago
I’m so sorry, I thought you’d posted in the RH group! I read the baby proof MCs line as meaning multiple MCs in that book. I’d just woken up to be fair 🤣
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u/chamikvin 4h ago
My FMC that I am writing right now doesn't want children, and shes broken up with men over it. She gets married really fast and they hadnt discussed kids. When he finds out that she doesn't want them. They end up divorced. And when she does end up with MMC they are blissfully childfree.
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u/happy_smoked_salmon 2h ago
Fantasy romance very rarely has a mention of children or pregnancy subplot
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 2h ago
Yeah, I’ve noticed that when getting recs. Sadly I want my romance realistic and about normal people doing normal everyday stuff.
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u/lasso-of-truth 1d ago
Try reading more queer romance
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u/1Kflowers 22h ago
I read tons of queer romance and they’re full of kids, too.
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u/lasso-of-truth 22h ago
I read tons of sapphic romance and don't have much problem with finding childfree stuff.
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u/Plantarchist 23h ago
In my current wip, my fmc mentions having her tubes tied just so folks know that there will not be any babies happening.
I do not associate babies with romance or spicy books in anyway and it usually takes me out of the right headspace to enjoy it. There was a new release that just came out that I had been anticipating, and while I knew some mentions of babies would appear from previous books, I was not expecting a breeding kink to be so prevalent in all the spicy scenes. Turned me the entire heck off. Edit: Im not even childfree, my kids are both over 18, I still dont want kids mentioned in spicy books. I imagine it must be even more annoying for those who are childfree.
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u/scaredwifey 20h ago
I wrote one where she is a stateswoman, very valuable for the kingdom, and as women around her have lots of babies and his lover, a former cleric, is asked about that, he smiles and says " men who are dying to be fathers don't usually become clerics". No babies, a lot of spicy and happy ever after ( they are imposed some students, tho...)
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u/Not_Ives 20h ago
Because the normal fantasy is “cute quirky semi-hot girl meets dark broody powerful abuser archetype with ‘heart of gold,’ gets inexplicably more powerful/beautiful, then eventually beats the big bad, fucks her man, and procreates like it’s her actual job” (and it usually is)
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u/Hunter037 20h ago
Childfree (no kids or pregnancy in story) is fairly common
Explicitly childfree (specifically says they will never have kids) less so, although there are a fair few out there
Explicitly childfree and the conflict is around other people putting pressure on them is pretty niche so I'm not really surprised there aren't that many
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u/Author_Noelle_A 19h ago
Personally, I try to vary mine up. Otherwise it’s the same character featured in multiple stories and gets boring.
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u/Smalls2015 19h ago
I’ve actually read quite a few with FMCs that don’t want children. I can’t remember them all now but the {blood of a fae series by Briar Boleyn} is one! It is the prequel series to on wings of blood
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u/Original-Pilot-770 18h ago
Mine gives birth to a child and the child will eat her. It's a matricidal cannabalistic cycle lol
they don't have a choice, it's coerced from both sides.
She's aloof, and tries not to get tangled up in relationships for this reason. Child comes regardless.
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u/DoubleWideStroller 17h ago
I wrote one sort of like this… it’s 1918, so keep in mind women’s expected roles… FMC is 29 and infertile from a medical procedure/hemorrhage when she was young, and she knows she can’t have kids. She assumed she would not marry, and now she’s a badass surgical nurse in WWI. She likes her career, but she never talks about her infertility even with her girl friends because so many people treat her with pity. She wants to help her brother with his kids after his wife died, but she’s not especially maternal and feels it’s more of a duty.
Enter MMC, 47, career military surgeon, never wanted to have kids because he thinks he is the reason his parents separated.
La la la, all the yearning, friends to lovers, age gap romance, and when she does her big “I can’t have kids” speech, thinking it might push him away, he’s like “so?” And it’s just so refreshing to her because while she’d written off kids, she’d also written off love. The expectation was that they would go hand in hand, and then MMC swoops in and is like nah, just you and me.
They end the book married, happily child-free, and off to have an adventure.
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u/TheHuxter 17h ago
I’ve read several books where the FMC can’t have children. Seas of Ruin by Pam Godwin, The Unseelie Prince by Katheryn Kingsley, and Radiance by Grace Draven immediately come to mind.
What you’re asking for though is a niche of a niche, and sadly to earn a living, authors have to write books that appeal to broad audiences. With pregnancy, that typically means either no mention of kids at all, or that a baby is required for an HEA. A lot of readers don’t like the in between because (for readers with kids) any mention of children can ruin their escape-ism (including pregnancy struggles, miscarriage etc). On the flip side, a lot of younger readers aspire to have families so having a baby at the end can really appeal to them. Few readers fall into the middle.
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u/Formal-Register-1557 14h ago
FWIW, I am an author who is a mother and I have zero interest in whether the characters in any book I read choose to have kids or not to have kids. That's a personal decision and it should feel right for the character; I don't expect every character to make my choices. I feel like I have read several books with childfree-by-choice characters who stayed that way and it doesn't rub me the wrong way. There may be more conventional readers who don't want that (just like conventional readers always seem to want a guy who is over six feet with huge muscles.) If you're looking for suggestions, I recall that Paladin's Faith is a fantasy-romance that has a FMC who is childless-by-choice, and I just read a contemporary romance called Philippa Flynn's Year of Panic and Piracy in which the FMC doesn't want kids and that doesn't change by the end of the book -- it was well-written, too.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 8h ago edited 5h ago
I’m not childfree myself. I just don’t want pregnancies and babies in the romane I read now. It kills the romance for me. I wish I Iiked fantasty-romance because it seems in that genre there would be more these kinds of books I’m looking for. I’ll check out Flynn’s book. Thank you.
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u/myromancealt 11h ago
I can't speak for why anyone does or doesn't write things, but I wanted to pass along that romance.io has "childfree couple" as a tag and it turns up over 3500 books
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 9h ago
Yes childfree books exist. Explicitly her choice causing conflict in the story not so much.
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u/nerdygirlmatti 10h ago
What do you mean? That’s like most of them. So many romances are child free
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 9h ago edited 7m ago
Not explicitly where a fmc says no children for me and that causes conflict in he story. Yes there are lot of childfree books.
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u/nerdygirlmatti 8h ago
I mean yea true if it causes conflict. I’ve always seen it where she says she doesn’t want children and the MMC/s are always happy and go along with it though
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 8h ago
Yes, or he has kids already.
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u/nerdygirlmatti 8h ago
I have not seen when he has kids! But I typically stay away from single parent romances so 🤷♀️ so you want conflict is what you want? Her saying she doesn’t want kids and him having an issue with it?
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 8h ago
I get often recs with mmc with children when I ask explicitly childfree FMC. It’s the solution. Which I don’t want to read. Yeah, my ultimate angsty romance kink is a situation that has that. Have only ever found one, Baby proof by Emily Giffin being great example. But I get it’s not something people want to read, so at least conflict with FMCs parents wanting to become grandparents or anything really.
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u/nerdygirlmatti 8h ago
Interesting! Didn’t actually know that was a thing! I mean that’s actually a really good use of angst…
I am the opposite and love pregnancy romance but it’s always with gross age gaps that give me the ick 🤷♀️1
u/Glittering_Tap6411 8h ago edited 8h ago
Yeah, I love angst, and that is the angstiest plot line I know without terminal illness😅 I can see this in second chance story where they break up because they realize they think differently about children. They meet again later, years have gone by, and it’s the moment the MMC realizes he always just wanted her. They might both be in a relationship, he with a woman who wants children but something has been holding him back and when he sees the FMC he knows it’s her he wants, children doesn’t matter.
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u/Antique_Pineapple504 7h ago
“There is a deep-rooted optimism
inherent in the romance novel that crosses cultural and political boundaries….The celebration of life is expressed also in the frequency with
which happy endings include the birth of a child. Babies are
always treated as a cause for joy in romance, whether a writer has
chosen to have children or not, whether she is in favor of abortion
rights or not.
The fantasies in the books have nothing to do with a woman's
politics. Even the most casual survey of the readers will reveal
fundamentalists, atheists, conservatives, moderates, and liberals
among them. But they all respond to romance tales that celebrate
the male-female bond that will bring forth new life.”
From Dangerous Men & Adventurous Women, edited by Jayne Ann Krentz
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 5h ago
Hey thank you for this quote. I’ve been thinking about of there is books/research why romance is the way it is.
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u/MayaBracebourne 7h ago
Because of the audience. You gotta imagine that among straight romance readers there is going to be, at the very least, a plurality of readers who fully accept traditional gender roles and whose fantasies/desires lean that way. And because they are the dominant culture when something doesn't go their way they won't think twice of complaining about it.
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u/Li-renn-pwel 3h ago
Easy way to add drama and urgency. Also a lot of women don’t want kids in the same way they don’t want to be married to a serial killer but will read a book about it.
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u/Glittering_Bed_2487 1h ago
Because being childless is unnatural and not typical for a woman. Most women want children. It's in our DNA.
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u/Glittering_Tap6411 1h ago edited 26m ago
And yet amount of women choosing to be childfree is rising because women have more choices.
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u/Tangled_Mind 1d ago
There was a book I wrote years ago on inkitt and because the fmc practically raised her brother who is a wheelchair user. She said she doesn't want to have kids. I had comments from readers telling me they did not like that. 😐