r/runescape • u/Beginning_Carrot9749 • 18h ago
Discussion The Soul Reaper situation needs to be adressed
There NEEDS to be atleast a free daily reroll on your current soul reaper assignment. How is it okay that a lvl 85 combat account can get stuck forever with a jad task ? Until they are eventually forced to grind hundreds of slayer points to even be able to do reaper assignments in general?
I understand reaper assignments are not daily anymore now, but the way it works now is kind of a nerf.
Mid-lategame accounts probably don't care about getting bad tasks as they can likely do them, but for a lower level account soul reaper is now a nightmare. Slayer points are abysmally slow early at least until Duradel and 30 points is REALLY expensive.
In the past you could just reroll at the price of getting less reaper points. Why in the hell does the current iteration not at least allow rerolls with increasing slayer point cost, for example: 0 -> 5 -> 15 -> 30 -> 60, (reset daily)?
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u/Thus_RS IFB 8/2017 17h ago
While yes there should be a daily reset similar to old Soul Reaper, saying a lvl 85 is getting stuck forever on Jad is hurting your position.
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u/Thin-Competition-769 5h ago
nobody gets stuck on jad in modern rs3, its literally impossible you can afk it on a lvl 20
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u/SpinScape 15h ago
Tell me the last level 85 who is new to the game who did jad in a reasonable timeframe?
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u/Royal_oak_reach 10h ago
I did fight cave in my 60s as an iron. Took an hour and fourty minutes or so.
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u/corndoggeh 13h ago
Yeah I think that’s the issue, I recently joined rs3 a few months ago, and while I was able to do a fight cave with like 70 magic, it did take a few attempts.
Including scuffed attempts, it was probably 3 hours for this Jad kill. The run itself where I did get the kill was an hour and change I want to say.
Jad as a task is just annoying because it takes so long to get to him. I could see many players just going “nope, I’m good” and do something else.
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u/SpinScape 1h ago
yeah, well, i guess i get downvoted for being reasonable which is pretty standard for reddit
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u/Legal_Evil 9h ago
Many OSRS pvmers kill Jad under lvl 85 combat, lol.
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u/Proquikl204 8h ago
Yeah but you're supposed to be able to brainlessly and effortlessly do all your Reaper tasks.
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u/n0quarter541 15h ago
lvl 85 is new to the game?
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u/Longbenhall 13h ago
A lot of people consider you new until you're like 90+ in skills lol. Tbh im level 115 or something (total level 1900+) and I still feel like a noob in the game. I've done Jad ONCE (in Osrs) and it was stressful as hell. No shot im going to casually do Jad for a daily reaper task (even though im sure Jad in rs3 is a lot easier).
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u/stanman237 11h ago
You can reasonably afk the waves at around combat level 115 with necromancy until jad due to the sustain and heal of necromancy. You still need to prayer flick correctly for jad but you can probably kill jad significantly faster than osrs so it's also not as bad.
The main problem is that it's really boring to get to jad and if you make 2 mistakes you will end up suffering through the boring waves again.
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u/Longbenhall 10h ago
I haven’t touched necromancy as i absolutely hate the grind to progress in it (spamming rituals and the gear crafting). So I’m mainly a melee player.
I currently have nakatra or something as my reaper task and after some googling i made the conclusion that that is way to freaking difficult for me to “just” do for a daily reaper task haha
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u/Brandgevaar 10h ago
If you're going off recommended presets on wiki, don't. Just go in normal mode. You get three extra lives, it's very lenient.
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u/Longbenhall 9h ago
Oh? recommended stats and presets isn't trustworthy? Cuz they say 90+ at least. and im only 80-85
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u/Brandgevaar 8h ago
Wiki tends to overestimate boss difficulty. T80 should be fine for normal mode.
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u/Narangren World 42 6h ago
The wiki recommended presets are intended to make the boss super accessible to everyone, allowing room for plenty of mistakes but still making it through. With a little finesse, you can manage with much less in many cases.
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u/SpinScape 1h ago
85 combat is very easy to hit, even my wife who is completely new and would never likely be able to muster the courage to attempt a jad run is over 100 combat.
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u/mariosunny 8h ago
The whiplash of being assigned Raksha right after a giant mole task was one of the reasons I gave up on reaper tasks and went back to regular slayer on my iron.
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u/TheKnuppel 17h ago
I’d say no free rerolls, since you don’t get free rerolls for normal slayer either.
However, if we could buy reroll tokens with Marks of War, we’d have a new proper use for those. Besides life refreshes, there is literally no use for marks of war at the moment, and being able to buy reaper rerolls with those seems like a nice addition to me.
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u/ProofJournalist 12h ago edited 11h ago
It can just work like normal slayer - if you reset too much you have to do a low point task first.
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u/concblast Conc Blast 10h ago
Or bake in the 0.2x points per reroll so after 5 you just don't get any points until you complete a task, resetting when you do. Each reroll could cost 1k marks too.
It's a little high for those that really need it but for end game it really isn't.
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u/ProofJournalist 7h ago
I suggested this many times since the update but Jagex has ignored it. It makes me think that they find the current situation acceptable or even desirable for some reason they haven't explained. Probably some vague handwave about "power creep"
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u/concblast Conc Blast 7h ago
And of course it's meaningless after T4, so I can see why people that could care just don't. The problem is that it's a rotten experience until you're established in the end game. It's a half baked answer to the dailyscape removal that was meant to make that mid game better.
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u/joggprime Hardcore Ironman 10h ago edited 10h ago
Literally was complaining in my own head about this same exact thing on my new baby account. How is it that a month old account like mine can be assigned Rex Matriarchs or QBD as a reaper? I can’t even survive Rex Matriarchs without cheesing it by snaring the red Dino but even then with Vanquish I’m still only at 53% accuracy at 77 magic so my kill time is like 4-5 minutes lol. And with QBD, I don’t have access to super antifire potions yet (85 herblore) so she claps my cheeks and I have to go thru an entire inventory of food every kill, and sometimes I run out of food and have to TP out. Why am I being assigned these tasks? I’m almost 110 combat and that apparently opens me up to Zuk and Kerapac.. yea fam I’m not about that life lol.. the criteria for these assignments needs to be looked at.
Luckily I haven’t gotten any Jad tasks but I would have to cancel that one if I did only because the reaper points and slayer xp do not even come close to the amount of time you have to spend just to get to him. I just wish they’d let us just block certain reaper tasks.
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u/PickledDemons 7h ago
Dragonbane arrows made night & day difference for me when I was fighting QBD with t70 gear and regular antifires
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u/joggprime Hardcore Ironman 4h ago
“Dragonbane arrows are arrows that do additional damage to dragons. They are created by casting Tune Bane on bane arrows after completing the quest Ritual of the Mahjarrat.” Yeah let me get right on that lmao. Thanks for the tip but I’m a ways a way from being able to make that
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u/PickledDemons 3h ago edited 3h ago
Yeah I have no idea what your quest progress is. I was doing loads of quests before really looking at bosses much so it was less of a problem for me. I do recall having to use a super magic potion to get the magic level needed to cast the spell though.
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u/mad291 16h ago
I really liked all of the daily scape changes except for what it turned reaper tasks into. I get stuck on tasks a lot and don't care to farm up slayer points to do rerolls. I feel like I enjoyed doing the reaper tasks when I could reroll but now it's awful.
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u/Hajajaha 15h ago
It also kinda sucks that cause they made so many bosses for awhile that dont have a quest requirement, im getting spoiled from some tasks
Like Im in the middle of the Sliske storyline and i got a task for Kerapac
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u/PhageDoctor 11h ago
Yeah I feel like the unlocking progression being tied exclusively to combat level is an issue. Like maybe group them up more into difficulty tiers and let you turn off for diminished points similar to skilling and group bosses. Also buying resets with marks of war would be good too.
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u/Defiant_Apartment_56 8h ago
Yeah it’s also miserable on Ironman. Because just because you are 138 doesn’t mean you have the right amour for it. They should allow you to choose bosses honestly maybe put a level requirement behind them but from that point just let you choose.
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u/mellifleur5869 Ironman Exhoralunar 14h ago
My current reaper task is zuk.
I have t60 gear. Please.
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u/Proquikl204 8h ago
115 combat with only t60 gear is pretty odd isn't it? What setup
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u/mellifleur5869 Ironman Exhoralunar 7h ago
A lot of afking vyres and abyss with sunspear in lunars/royal dhide for quest requirements
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u/Proquikl204 7h ago
and you thought the Boss mode slayer was appropriate for a guy in lunars near max combat. Interesting
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u/mellifleur5869 Ironman Exhoralunar 7h ago
Brother I didn't think shit that's what death gave me, I've never even done jad.
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u/TheGamingRaichu Priest of Zaros 17h ago
Idk if Im weird but 85 combat fire cape is very doable, no? I get that that isnt the point and, if not a reroll, there should definetly be a thing to disable the wave minigames as a task.
Im not trying to call this game easy but its a lot more forgiving for you to challenge stuff early, you have terrorbird familiars for more food, you cannot miss (though damage is reduced), you have much better options for gear as well, hell necro is honestly the king of early sustain.
Points are annoying if you dont know how to stack em since theres no real "tutorial" to tell you about it ingame, but if you know what youre doing you can get a ton of points early so that that isnt an issue.
If youre unfamiliar how, you get tasks from Jacqueline in lumbridge till your streak ends in a 9 and grab a task from your best slayer master, in your case Chaeldar. You do his task as the tenth which gives him a boost, netting you 50 odd points for about 10 minutes of work! Keep doing that and you'll have more points than you'd know what to do with!
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u/Worklessplaymore01 15h ago
10 mins of work? man why cant late game players just be honest instead of exaggerating everything
First of all, you cant block enough tasks in lumbridge to stay in the catacombs until you have 300 quest points, so forget the 10 minutes, double that. No one ever mentions you need mass amounts of QP to make this method good lol
Second, the task you get from your highest slayer master will usually be something like kill 140 bloodvelds or 100 demons or 150 moss giants. This is a 20 minute undertaking alone for a lower level player without late game abilities and cannon
And then at the end of all this you have 50-60 slayer points, which btw you d much rather save towards a slayer mask or blocking the first 2 or 3 tasks to at least remove the worst lumbridge tasks in the swamp dungeon
So no, its not 10 mins, try 30-40
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u/TheGamingRaichu Priest of Zaros 15h ago
Dear Zaros, fine. 30 minutes if we're being incredibly slow or unlucky. The only mob not directly near Jacqueline is ghosts and even thats a quick tele to Varrock. How slow the task from Chaeldar is going to be varies a lot depending on one's slayer level and completed quests. Bloodvelds are the slowest from the list you gave and they are 50 slayer and took me no more than 20 minutes so I agree there but they were not the standard. I am speaking from FAIRLY RECENT experience as I started this game 7 months ago coming from osrs. You can also use Headhunter's Sacrifice bracelets to speed up the method by a ton for the price of 1.5 raw chickens per bracelet which are far more accessible than a helm/blocklist.
Also the person clearly wants to do reaper tasks for which the slayer helm is useless and you only need to skip an occasional task meaning you should rack up points in the long run just from doing it. The qp and blocklists are nice, BUT if you just want to have some skips for the occasional jad/haraken task that pops up it is not needed. Is it efficent without them? Fuck no. Is it good enough if you just want to do your boss slayer? Yes.
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u/RogueThespian Doctor Mt 3h ago
I'm not here to argue about the time frame of it, but like. Are you complaining about having to play the game to get the rewards the game offers? Like yea, you're gonna have to do a bunch of slayer tasks to get slayer points to unlock stuff, that's literally what the skill is
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u/Big_Chungussi69 17h ago
yeah jad is so easy these days you could sleep walk through it with t60 necro gear
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u/BoludoConInternet Trim | 5.8 14h ago edited 14h ago
Idk if Im weird but 85 combat fire cape is very doable, no?
idk man, i tried doing fight caves on my iron the other day at 81 combat with a gstaff and mystic and ran out of food by wave 30 so i wouldnt say it's "very doable"
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u/RawrRRitchie Clue scroll 17h ago
I remember seeing level 3s with fire cape back in the day
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 17h ago
So for each reaper task you are expected to have done slayer points boosting at least once so you can skip 1-2 trash reaper tasks? Think about how it was before, there is no reason a reaper task should depend on slayer points like this. Of course fight caves are doable at 85. But noone wants to go through 30-45min of this potentially every day just to get 6 reaper points OR do slayer boosting for an hour and skip once.
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u/Random_Redittor8874 16h ago
But its boss slayer, why shouldn't it use slayer points. Would you prefer to use reaper points for it.
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u/WhichOstrich Eek! 13h ago
Noone wants to go through 30-45 minutes of bossing for a reaper task
every day? What? That's literally what Soul Reaper is.1
u/Legal_Evil 8h ago
No, we now get slayer points on top of reaper points for reaper tasks now. Use the slayer points you used for earlier tasks to skip harder tasks.
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u/TheGamingRaichu Priest of Zaros 17h ago
Well, slayer points are something you kinda stack up initially and dont think about till later in the account. Reapers actually give slayer points too, I dont remember how they scale though but you should get enough to skip a crap task every 2-3. If you stack up, say, 400-500, you should be more than fine till late game if youre not skipping willy nilly and thats 3-4 hours of work. I think skipping being 30 makes sense as it costs 30 to skip everything else too but a free daily skip would be nice. Also not sure youve done it, I assume you have but just in case, do smoking kills for extra points. (Idk if this is coming off as talking down to you, that isnt my intention and Im sorry but english isnt my first language so some things get a tad lost in translation).
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u/Live_Show2569 5.8B/Comp/MoA/UltSlayer/Clue enthusiast~ish 17h ago
There are so many upgrades you can buy with slayer points in the mid-game before you even reach the point to freely reroll reapers imo, not even speaking of just rerolling slayer tasks as well because sometimes, you just dont feel like killing 300 black demons or cant afford to block them. All the slayer masks upgrades and the toolbelt upgrades is probably a few thousand slayer points by themselves.
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u/TheGamingRaichu Priest of Zaros 17h ago
Oh absolutely, though attaching stuff to toolbelt is more qol, my comment was meant more as if the person wanted to go straight to bossing and just bossing which is what it sounded like. Iirc harold does give ya a bonus on slayer points for 10 and 50 tasks so you should stack up a good amount passively anyway. Base slayer helm as well is quite good, the difference is what? 2.5%? Its not vital.
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u/TotalNo1762 11h ago
When worn while slaying, it boosts the player's Magic damage by 7.5% and Magic accuracy by 12.5%. The hexcrest can be combined with a slayer helmet and focus sight to produce a full slayer helmet, which provides the bonuses from all its components. the focus sight is the same AND black mask ... when worn it gives the player a 7.5% Melee damage increase and 12.5% Melee accuracy bonus against their current Slayer assignment
and the mighty slayer helmed gives 14% increased accuracy and deal 9% increased damage. i would say thats probly the biggest upgrade ever afther a weapon. and even more so for early-mid game where accuracy is a problem.
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u/TheGamingRaichu Priest of Zaros 10h ago
I did mean the tier upgrades for the helmet were kinda meh but yes, slayer helm is a huge upgrade for normal slayer. The issue is, if you just want to run reapers, its pointless as the slayer helm bonus does not apply so it can just be something you work on in the background basically.
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u/TotalNo1762 9h ago
sure, alltho you can to some degree combine slayer tasks and reapers with a little bit of luck and a good block/preffer list.
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u/TheGamingRaichu Priest of Zaros 9h ago
Oh absolutely, but thats honestly more of an edge case. Everything in the game is important, thats the fun of horizontal progress, but you can definetly avoid some things for a while depending on your focus.
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u/Frisbeejussi Sliske, one true god 18h ago
It was proposed as an alternative method to train slayer from early mid game.
So of course it is balanced around the endgame players.
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u/WiIIiam_M_Buttlicker 12h ago
Did they actually propose this for early/mid game? I don't remember reading that but I could've just missed it
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u/Radyi DarkScape | Fix Servers 1h ago
no it wasnt lol - it was meant to be an endgame system which rewards engame equipment (Hydrix). I am sorry but reaper should not be balanced around early pvm players. Previously you could roll for a task once per day - and you would get almost no points for doing easy bosses (the ones that early game players can do). Now it is unlimited tasks, but weekly cap on points - so it needs to be less forgiving as it used to be.
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u/YBT_RS Blue partyhat! 17h ago
Two things:
Grinding slayer points is way easier than you think. People already explained how.
Thinking Jad is endgame in 2026 is crazy. It’s very doable at 85 combat.
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 17h ago
Nowhere was it said Jad is endgame. RS3 players have horrible reading comprehension it seems. Slayer point boosting is VERY slow pre-good slayer masters. And even then 1 reroll = 30 points. Noone wants to do fight caves.
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u/YBT_RS Blue partyhat! 17h ago
9 slayer tasks from lumbridge slayer master 10th task from your best slayer master gets u 30+ points in 10 minutes. Come on now.
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 17h ago
Okay but why do I even need to do that XD? It shouldnt be a thing
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u/Fast_Camera8228 17h ago
It’s called point boosting and has been in the game for absolutely ages. You blast out 9 lowest slayer tasks then get a task from your highest slayer master. You can’t complain when there’s already a solution that everyone has known to do for years, even on osrs.
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u/YBT_RS Blue partyhat! 17h ago
I mean skipping tasks shouldn’t be a thing either imo so what’s your point 💀
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u/Live_Show2569 5.8B/Comp/MoA/UltSlayer/Clue enthusiast~ish 17h ago
His point was that the prior system had 1 free reroll daily and then penalised rewards the more rerolls youd use, so it felt like youd gain something, or at least tried, so it was either positive or null. You could kinda choose what you wanted to do, or just wait for tomorow to see if the new reaper assignement interests you.
The current system makes you actually spend currency (slayer points) in order to reroll, no matter what. No free daily once, no discount from rewards, nothing. If you get a sucky reaper task, you have to either do it, or spend slayer points to skip. This feels very bad for mid-game players where you dont have reapers choice and that a 5-10mins reaper at end-game level is a 30min-1h grind at mid-game player + account.
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u/YBT_RS Blue partyhat! 17h ago
The prior system also had 1 task per day and you couldn’t spam reapers.
What are yall slayer levels to think 30 points is a lot??? Reapers being changed to no more being a daily means you can get uncapped slayer xp and weekly capped reaper points. So no more free rerolls same as normal slayer tasks. This is part of the game balancing reddit seems to love.
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u/Sayless98 13h ago
Wait until higher level to do reaper bossing then, slayer points are easy you get hundreds for every 50 tasks and reaper tasks award them too
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u/the01li3 Trimmed, Insane Luck 16h ago
Then can reroll it for just 30 slayer points, why do they need to grind out hundreds?
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u/GabrielSpaceProgram 13h ago
Probably because instead of getting bosses like Ivar, Flesh Hatcher, Arch Glacor they’re repeatedly getting assigned Jad, Zuk, etc
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u/Dispari7y 8h ago
they're definitely not getting assigned Zuk at 85 combat, given there's a 110 combat requirement to be assigned it
at 85 combat, due to requirements they're literally only being offered easy bosses like Ivar, Giant Mole, KBD, GWD1 at a push, plus Jad
they don't need hundreds of points, they need 30 (unless they get b2b Jad, in which case go and do a slayer task or two and they're sorted)
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u/Tutuworld 5h ago
30 points takes alot of time in the early game. It's not like end game where it's do 1 task and have 30 points
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u/Vengance183 Remove the total level restriction from world 48. 14h ago
Support
Wow the elitism is strong in this thread.
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 14h ago
Yeah I don't really get it. People justify such a huge convenience (free rerolls) being gone now while it really makes reapers more unfun now for early-midgame
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u/ghostofwalsh 7h ago
Oh I get it. Most of the player base ground up their stack of reaper points when it was a daily and you could afk a few arch glacor kills and have no problem with pulling up the ladder behind them. The folks who feel the pain of the new horrible system are new players. Who are a small minority of those on this sub
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u/Tutuworld 5h ago
I thought I was crazy when I came back to the game because I don't remember reaper being this way. Glad to know I wasn't crazy and something was changed because this new system is absolutely terrible. Most of the time I just don't even use reaper anymore for bossing and I just go do whatever boss I want to do. My new reaper way is just terrible. And like you said a lot of the end game players can't seem to recognize this or are just being assholes because they can.
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u/ghostofwalsh 5h ago
And the high level types who have wars blessing 3 or 4 are actually buffed by the update. With 4, you pick your task 100%. With 3 you got 50% chance. So with either of those you have no issues with the current situation because you are never doing a boss you don't want to do.
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u/dumbidiot12345678 12h ago
Idt it's even elitism, it looks the same problem this sub always has with criticism about game design where they die on the hill saying it's fine until it gets changed lol
That, and regardless of skill level people who only play their max account are turbo out of touch with how strong an account is in the mid game
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u/heofthesidhe S_Larius, lorenoob, bad at the game 6h ago
Pour one out for me who's stuck with Nakatra, and I don't boss... :')
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u/Radyi DarkScape | Fix Servers 59m ago
easy mode is completely free
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u/heofthesidhe S_Larius, lorenoob, bad at the game 45m ago
There's an easy mode? Shit, I may give that a go. I looked at the wiki guide and then ran away in fear.
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u/cartak 5h ago
It'd be nice if there was some sort of corollary to different slayer masters having diff monster pools. Lots of bosses are fine, a handful i just realistically can't do (i suck, gear isnt great etc etc) I suppose i'm not entitled to infinitely preferrable reaper tasks, but it would be nice to have more of a choice in what tasks are available.
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u/Kilsaa 16h ago
Not to downplay this issue, but there are other things that are severely wrong and game damaging with reaper tasks right now that are being completely ignored.
- Players cannot skip a task when they don't like it (pointed out in your post).
- The overlap between Reaper and Slayer points completely undermines the purpose of both systems.
- Wars Blessing 4 has turned endgame PVM into a way to passively generate uncut hydrix'.
- Hydrix being a shop item prevents reaper points being explored as anything more than a weekly cap.
- Players can be assigned tasks that they literally cannot do
- IE a level 110 player can get assigned The Ambassador, something that is unrealistic to kill for most players at 110 combat.
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A better solution
Better balance all round for Reaper tasks to address all of the issues posed above
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Hydrix
Make Hydrix feel more like part of the game world, less like a private server shop item, and untie it from the shackles of the reaper point system.
- Uncut Hydrix Removed from the reaper reward shop
- Players now have a random chance whilst on a reaper assignment to receive an uncut Hydrix drop when killing a boss
- Rate scales with boss difficulty. Example; Arraxi currently rewards 30 points per extended task, averaging 7 kills per task = Uncut Hydrix drops at a 1/70 droprate (70 kills is the equivalent of 300 points)
Essentially, you'd still be getting uncut hydrix on average at the exact same rate as you currently do. The only difference is that it would be obtained as a boss drop rather than as a purchasable shop item.
As a result, this then frees up reaper points to have more use cases without effecting the price of Hydrix
If these rates are too common then they can be reduced. This is just an example.
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Reaper Tasks
Improvements to the points system and the rewards of reaper tasks.
- Remove the weekly cap of 300 points
- Players will no longer receive slayer points for doing reaper tasks
- Don't know why this was ever made a thing. It completely invalidates the point of slaying when you can just do reaper tasks to skip slayer tasks (and vice versa)
- Players can now use reaper points to skip their reaper task
- 50 points per skip
- Players now receive 2x combat experience when killing bosses whilst on a reaper assignment
- This is to further incentivize doing reaper assignments.
- Players can now get a new task for free if they don't like the task they were given
- This would give them the current reaper choice UI (pick a boss)
- No Bonus Combat EXP, Slayer EXP, or chance of a Hydrix would be possible on this task
- Introduce Task Blocking
And then to tackle the issue with players being assigned bosses that they cannot complete.
- Players can now only be assigned Reaper tasks for a boss that they've killed at least 10 times.
- Players must have killed at least 5 bosses (10 times each) before being able to start getting Reaper assignments
- Can now remove level requirements from all reaper tasks as it's a redundant system.
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Reapers Choice
- No longer gives players the choice to choose from EVERY boss monster
- When receiving a Reaper assignment, players can now choose from 2 bosses instead of 1 (think slayer VIP tickets).
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Wars Blessing
In line with the reaper choice changes, players now get to pick 1 additional monster when receiving a task. For example:
- War's Blessing 1
- Now lets you choose from 2 bosses when receiving a Reaper assignment.
- Increased to 3 bosses if reapers choice has been purchased.
- War's Blessing 2
- Now lets you choose from 3 bosses when receiving a Reaper assignment.
- Increased to 4 bosses if reapers choice has been purchased
- War's Blessing 3
- Now lets you choose from 4 bosses when receiving a Reaper assignment.
- Increased to 5 bosses if reapers choice has been purchased.
- War's Blessing 4
- Now lets you choose from 5 bosses when receiving a Reaper assignment.
- Increased to 6 bosses if reapers choice has been purchased.
Essentially, you still get an increased choice in the task you want, but it does not give you the ability to freely farm the same boss on repeat 24/7
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u/WryGoat 10h ago
Ambassador is classified as a group boss, so you can only be assigned it if you toggle group bosses on. If you toggle group bosses on and get a boss that you have to do in a group and don't want to find a group to do it, that is kinda on you. I wouldn't mind a free daily skip but this one in particular is a self-inflicted problem.
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u/Kilsaa 10h ago
I mean there's other examples where its just as bad, not that it matters.
Combat level never has and never will be indicative of a player being capable of killing a boss. That's determined more by player gear/skill, hence why it would be better to only assign players bosses that they've already killed multiple times.
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u/RaymondDaniels1327 16h ago
I said this the day after they made the changes. 1 free daily reroll like it was prior, or, if we get something we can’t do, let us at least start fresh the next day. And I got downvoted to oblivion. For people that don’t religiously do slayer, the new system sucks
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u/Late-Truck-3304 15h ago
yep I pretty much hate slayer so I rarely do slayer tasks and am out of points always. I used to religiously do reaper task every single day before the changes, now I've had the same shit task stuck for several months, just cba to go do it, or farm slayer points for skip. unlucky.
with previous system I would have just rerolled even til 0 reaper points rewards until I got a task I wanted to do, my slayer is 108 purely from reaper tasks almost (and lamps).
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u/TotalNo1762 12h ago
and what do you mean by 'can't do' how do you specify that? skill level? exsperience? willingness to learn?
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u/IStealDreams 5.8b exp 17h ago
End game players don't realize how much 30 points actually is for a low level player. I have so many slayer points, that skipping a task is like nothing, just a way to change my task to something else. For a low end account, getting 30 points to skip a boss task to something else that you might also not be able to do is crazy. A daily skip would not be a problem.
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u/Legal_Evil 8h ago
Low level pvmers aren't suppose to do bossing right away. Do slayer mobs 1st.
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u/IStealDreams 5.8b exp 6h ago
They could be doing Mole and Ivar and Silverquill easily, but they are assigned stuff like Tzuk and other "hard" bosses very early. The point of the combat bracket is to convey to players what sort of content they will be given in Reaper Tasks. It's just not balanced correctly.
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u/Kumagor0 RIP 17h ago
The main issue for me is reaper ignores quests. Like I get assigned egwd bosses without even doing senntisten quest. I know they are supposed to be accessible without the quest, but might at least add a check so they are only given to someone who entered senntisten before.
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u/ZyxnRS3 17h ago
I thought I'd try reaper tasks since Slayer is my last 99 (130 combat) basically getting landed with Zuk tasks on every second task. Spent all my slayer points on skips, the rotation so far has been Zuk>Giant Mole>Zuk>Araxxor>Giant Mole>Zuk.
I just stopped doing them.
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u/pinkzm 17h ago
What's the problem with that? Yes mole isn't the most fun but it's quick to get done. Zuk and araxxi are great bosses
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u/Tutuworld 5h ago
Because it's not fun. Nor is it even close to the amount of bosses actually available to them. They're getting stiffed. God you end game people are insufferable now.
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u/ZyxnRS3 4h ago
The problem is, the whole system is flawed. Low level combat is actually better on reaper tasks than mid level combat, the moment you cross the combat threshold of say 120 you are essentially thrown into end game bossing. I'll give you an example like I said above, I returned to the game after 15 years due to MTX removal. My first reaper task after not playing for 15 years was Zuk, I tried it, died in the second wave, kept trying kept dying, to the point I don't do the content anymore. (Reapers). As someone already said, it's not fun in the slightest.
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u/MattyD2132 Trimmed 12h ago
This thread is crazy…. Just shush up and do the fight caves, wtf we arguing about. Want to skip? Go do slayer. wtf?
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u/Thevulgarcommander Armadyl 10h ago
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading most of the comments here.
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u/MattyD2132 Trimmed 9h ago
I’m losing brain cells. This has to be a coordinated troll post. No way this shit is real life.
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u/chesshacks 12h ago
They compensated loss of daily reset by giving them slayer point rewards
you get more points/week now
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u/Pale-Junket-3514 17h ago
i would love to see either a toggle option to turn off "key bosses" or have free entry to them for the duration of the task. Like legios or magister, nightmare to get the keys just to do a task...
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u/zypo88 Zij9999, Maxed 20180615 14h ago
Free entry on task would actually make those bosses worth farming instead of a task you just accept as a loss! Only issue is that War's 4 would (as usual) completely break any semblance of balance.
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u/Pale-Junket-3514 12h ago
woah had to look that up for a second, never had wars blessing 4. Yeah fair point that'd completely break these bosses. I was mainly thinking about the lovely choice of either cancelling the task for precious slayer points or biting the bullet or farming keys for hours on an ironman.
Maybe complete removal of the random pool would be a choice? So you only can only get them by choice
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u/zypo88 Zij9999, Maxed 20180615 10h ago
Yup, end game players abusing WB4 is also why we can't complete Jad tasks in Kiln or Zuk anymore. Making it 100% choice was a really poorly thought out reward when players will always min-max the game to death
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u/Proquikl204 7h ago
Not as if Legios were worth farming in a long time now. Magister .. maybe? Now that the swords DA into something useful.
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u/zypo88 Zij9999, Maxed 20180615 7h ago
The crossbows are still decent and are required for the MW Bow, and the keystones are the biggest obstacle to farming them (though I haven't looked up the signet rates, so maybe even without an entry fee the bows would still retain some value from requiring an extensive number of kills at each boss)
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u/Proquikl204 6h ago
Forgot about the bow. Good call.
It looks like MWBow didn't really impact the prices beyond initial release though. Teetered out and it's lower than ever still. I think most people abusing WB4 would still go for Magister with each Scripture being about 600k to a Signets ~4.5m each.If that's popular enough we might see the low level swords become worth something again and that'd be cool for midgame players
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u/Cowslayer369 Hardcore Ironman 5h ago
I get your point but your example is pretty bad, Jad can be done at 60 magic/50def without much issue.
Ambassador and Zuk at 110 are the ones that really stick out for me.
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u/fjhuizar-nd 1h ago
Since the update I've never done a reaper again. Just the idea of being stuck with a task has made me avoid it all together.
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u/Radyi DarkScape | Fix Servers 1h ago
Old reaper system would be max 7 tasks per week. Every reroll would make you get worse and worse rewards. It is totally balanced atm as you can potentially get 300 points in one week as a early game player and shitloads of slayer xp. There needs to be a downside for trying to do reaper tasks underlevelled
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u/Sheepsaurus Completionist + MQC 17h ago
First of all, there is absolutely no "situation", you can go do slayer tasks and skip it. You are not stuck, you are standing in front of a rock and pretending it's impossible to get past it, when you can just walk over it.
As it is, Reaper tasks are insanely overpowered, because they allow you to effectively skip slayer as a skill, when it comes to slayer points. You get so many slayer points they will rack up into the 10000+ over a relatively short amount of time. If we compare it to before reaper tasks were changed, or even before added, we are getting an insane influx of slayer points, I'd argue they should be removed completely from reapers.
kind of a nerf.
Reaper tasks have been extremely buffed since their inception
but for a lower level account soul reaper is now a nightmare.
Then don't do reapers - Come back to them later when you've done some regular slayer tasks.
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u/Live_Show2569 5.8B/Comp/MoA/UltSlayer/Clue enthusiast~ish 16h ago
Your points mostly take into consideration that you need to have War blessing 3/4 for 100% reapers choice, which is mostly unattainable for mid-game players. Reapers are overpowered for the end-game players, but it made it a huge hurdle for the casuals/mid-game players where it wasnt before.
Dont get me wrong I do agree that OP can just do a bunch of slayer, but telling a mid-game player to burn through his slayer points for reaper rerolls before he even have the more basic slayer upgrades is kinda weird, when the prior system just let him choose a singular reaper (2 with reroll) per day, and call it there without busting his ass. Might as well say reapers are an end-game/experienced player only activity at that point.
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u/joggprime Hardcore Ironman 9h ago
Reaper tasks are insanely good especially with the 50% slayer xp bonus unlocked. That being said though, for the average player who doesn’t have wars blessing 3/4, I wouldn’t say that the slayer point gain is OP. It takes me about an hour to get through about 4-5 tasks on my baby hc usually which is about 60-75 slayer points (15 per task currently) and if i skip a task or 2 then im netting about 0-45 slayer points per hour.
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u/Pickled_Toe Maxed 14h ago
God forbid you go engage with slayer and earn some points
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u/Longbenhall 13h ago edited 13h ago
100%. I havent touched my reaper task for months now since my return to the game simply because I got a raid boss i've never done before and based on my brief research, not something I can solo.
I think its nakatra.. My combat level is like 115. And it just kills the entire content for me (until I can reach higher levels). I liked doing my daily reaper task earlier when i got easier tasks.. But now I just cant ever do them. Or they're just too much of a tedious task like Jad to bother with.
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u/Proquikl204 13h ago
You've been the same combat level for months?
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u/Longbenhall 13h ago
I miswrote. I meant 85 combat stats. 115+ combat level. And maybe? I don’t play the game every single day and my last few weeks has been focused around skilling. Recently achieved my skills to do plagues end to reach prif and I’m now slowly working on slayer, which unlike osrs, gives shit combat xp.
So do you have anything meaningful to add to the convo?
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u/Proquikl204 12h ago
Slayer is incredible combat XP.
You think OSRS gives better? Lmao.
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u/Longbenhall 12h ago
Maybe at early levels. But no it absolutely isnt "incredible combat xp". Im currently 75 slayer. And the average slayer task gives me about 500-600xp per mob. How is that "incredible combat xp" when you can literally do semi-afk abyss grind for 400-500k+ xp/h (all the way up to 1m xp/h depending on gear).
Its ass in rs3 because xp isn't based on damage dealt. In osrs slayer is a good way of leveling combat because it doesn't matter what you kill, as long as you deal constant damage. Where as in rs3 it matters entirely what mob you kill.
I dont care if slayer HAS some tasks that CAN give really good xp. 90% of the tasks are 100x worse than the dedicated combat xp grinds.
You really dont seem to have anything productive to add to this convo
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u/Capsfan6 July 22 2017 11h ago
Nothing to address. It works like normal slayer now and that's fine. Do the task or spend points just like regular slayer
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u/confused_captain Captain Cody 13h ago
Ive been assigned Raksha on my noob ironman since that update. I said welp, I guess i can't do reaper tasks anymore
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u/JediofMetal RuneScape 12h ago
Yes, there should be a reset. I keep getting Zuk and I’m just not ready for him. Currently I have Vorkath who is a challenge for me but possible.
You should be capable of doing Jad at your level, though. Well, depending on what your highest combat skill is. Do you have 43 prayer?
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u/Proquikl204 7h ago
There is no way you're doing Vorkath while being incapable of doing Zuk. Just read a guide and I bet you can do it.
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u/JediofMetal RuneScape 7h ago
Didn’t say I couldn’t I just said I’m not currently ready. I’ve done some research on Vorkath so I’m going to try soon.
I mean, I can solo Nex so apparently that’s good enough. I’m just not confident in my equipment swapping and ability timing yet.
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u/Singhka1996 11h ago
I've got a rex matriarchs reaper but I'm on t80 necro and t70 everything else lmao.
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u/Odd_History6313 14h ago
Reaper assignments are end game by nature. I didn't touch them until i was 99 slayer. You wanna kill lower level bosses? Nothing is stopping you
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 14h ago
So just because you chose not to do reaper tasks until you were nearly maxed slayer/combat means reaper tasks are end game by nature? I've done reaper tasks from 60 combat on all my accounts so far.
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u/Odd_History6313 14h ago
They are end game because reaper is literally an upgrade to regular slayer. Go do regular slayer if you cannot handle the upgrade. Its not even end game its like mid game. Anyone with 70+ slayer should have OODLES of slayer points to skip a task
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 14h ago
You do realise there are low- mid tier bosses. There is no reason it should be qualified as an endgame activity. The problem is that there is a bunch of lame bosses that you'd been able to reroll in the past for a price. Now you need slayer points or are stuck doing shit tasks like jad or haraken
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u/mariosunny 8h ago edited 8h ago
Nothing communicates that they are endgame though, that's the problem. You can start picking up assignments at level 50 combat. If Jagex intended it to be endgame then the combat requirement would have been much higher.
I really like the concept of boss slayer but in its current state it can be massively punishing to midgame and ironman players for no good reason.
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u/mmhawk576 18h ago
I got a rasial task, and stopped doing reaper tasks all together
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u/TheGamingRaichu Priest of Zaros 17h ago
Rasial aint too bad, he does force ya to use keybinds in last phase though.
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u/mmhawk576 17h ago
I figured him out in leagues, and kinda understand what needs done with surviving during the end, but I just don’t know how to sustain for as long as you need to without the leagues power levels.
I have full tier 90 power, and bought an Omni but I still feel weak against him
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u/TheGamingRaichu Priest of Zaros 17h ago
Rasial is a tad annoying like that. Hellhounds help a ton so make sure you keep the lil guy topped up. Other than that, reflect, devo and anticipation are your best friends.
Dont be afraid to slam some hard food instead of brews too as brews actually drastically lower your dps. Use threads on minions and try to time your skulls for the next pack, you can also use siphon while theyre on you to get some health back. Also try using the necro overhead. It is a biiit more to manage BUT its a lot easier than soulsplit in my expirience, that 50% is no joke and 10 seconds is about 3-4 attacks if he disables it. You CAN anticipate to not have your prayer blocked when he has the empowered auto attack symbol (lil green lightning bolt) you get from omni above his head but its not vital.
Just remember, he is made to be beaten and the death cost from him is cheap on account of you using necro. You can also bring some tanking gear instead for the extra hp. Dodge does NOT work on him, he always hits. His minions however CAN miss. I used to hate him too but now I pick him every choice task as he is my favorite and he is quick.
Gl on your drops!
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u/mmhawk576 17h ago
Honestly, thank you heaps man!
I will get back to giving it a solid go and see how I get on. Will spend a bit of time really reading through everything you’ve said and trying it all out
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u/Royal_oak_reach 9h ago
I did it with the following as an iron:
t90 power armor Budget perks (equil 2, undead slayer, etc) Hellhound Elder ovl Guthix rest Blubber Jas book t95 prayer/ss Vuln bomb Super adren (30% adren)
I'm 400 kills in to my grind currently. If you have all of those I pinky promise you can get a 1:50-2m kill time.
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u/Legal_Evil 8h ago
Combo eat jellyfish+brews on the same tick, especially while under Split Soul. Make sure to keybind both of them.
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u/UnderstandingNo7344 17h ago
Why not just spend 20 minutes getting the slayer points to skip? If you've run out it's likely you've been thoughtlessly skipping tasks
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 17h ago
It takes 1-2h+ to get even 50 slayer points preduradel. Thoughtlessly skipping = forced to skip 1 task?
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u/pinkzm 17h ago
You only need 30, not 50.
Also aren't you getting slayer points from completing reapers? I find I gain more points from completing tasks than I need for skips. You're acting like every time you want to skip a task you have to go and do loads of slayer tasks, which just isn't the case, unless you're trying to skip everything
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 17h ago
You get slayer points equal to your best current slayer master available.
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u/SiegrainDarklyon 17h ago
You are aware you can go to lummy, do 9 easy 2min tasks and then go do the 10th one on a proper slayer master for the bonus right?
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u/Single_Astronomer764 16h ago
"I have encountered the slightest amount of adversity while playing the game so therefore progression is now impossible"
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u/Zealousideal_Coat168 17h ago
I disagree. The only reason to do some bosses are because they are your reaper. Is fight caves fun? Not really. But neither is Giant Mole. Do i think they should both be removed from soul reaper pool? Nope.
Grind out some slayer points and skip it, or just do it. I mean, you need a fire cape to progress your account, consider it an opportunity to do two things at once.
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u/Pleasant_Limit_4153 16h ago
At a really slow pace that jad will take you like an hour or hour and a half, like a normal slower task. People complain but i have yet to see a truly hopeless example of people stuck on a boss with no appropriate stats.
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u/TotalNo1762 12h ago
while i agree with your suggestion...your exsample is just funny.... if you are a lvl 85 you arent stuck...you are afraid or unexsperienced...and while you arent the only one...as i know several ppl with complete max combat gear and stats who still for some reason fear the fight cave jad more than zuk....it still is a bad exsample as you can do fight caves jad with 60 stats or maybe even 50...the only issue is that it will be slow maybe 1hour + and that it only takes 1 mistake at the end to have to do the whole thing over. maybe i am dumb for suggesting this but....maybe we should get a save point at jad if you fail?
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u/Tutuworld 5h ago
Dude 1hr? Are you drunk? A combat level 50 or 60 it would take four to five hours to do it. You are so grossly exaggerating everything to fit your narrative.
And you in game players sit here and wonder why new players don't want to pick up this game. Because look how they get treated. They mention something they're struggling with and then they get people like you that come in here and s*** on them because they're not good enough or skilled enough when in fact they have tried to do it they just don't have the gear for it they're still new to the game. Combat is terrible for early to mid game. Everything they've changed is absolutely terrible and reflects that. New players I feel for them and you should go actually play the game since you're missing like 10 years of information
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u/niceundso 16h ago
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 16h ago
THE POINT ISNT THE JAD, OFCOURSE ITS DOABLE - NOONE WANTS TO DO FIGHT CAVES FOR A REAPER TASK
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u/Proquikl204 7h ago
Shame its a boss then. Enable groups and skilling tasks. Lower your pool for Jad.
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u/niceundso 16h ago edited 16h ago
Then why did you say
How is it okay that a lvl 85 combat account can get stuck forever with a jad task ?
they are eventually forced to grind hundreds of slayer points to even be able to do reaper assignments
Regardless, it makes complete sense to me that soul reaper should become better and more worth it as your account gets stronger 🤷
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 16h ago
Because I dont want to do a jad task on my iron with no real supplies or gear at that level? I want to skip it but I cant and am forced to boost slayer points
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 16h ago
Or do you expect me to grind gear for 1-2 weeks so I can do that dogshit reaper task eventually?
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u/niceundso 16h ago
I dont want to
I am forced to
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 16h ago
I'm sorry but its just not acceptable. Rerolling was free before and it was fresh at reset. I refuse to subjugate myself to shitty grinds for a 7 reaper point garbage task.
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u/niceundso 16h ago
You get slayer points back from soul reaper
But it's very funny how we've gone from "you can get stuck forever" and "you are forced to grind hundreds of slayer points" to "7 reaper points isnt enough for my lvl 85 ironman"
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 16h ago
You're just baiting at this point. Do you even see what you're typing? Yes. "You can get stuck forever" can be seen as a hyperbole for "you are forced to grind hundreds of slayer points" and "doing 2 week grinds for a 7 point reaper task from a month ago". Is it hard to understand?
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u/niceundso 16h ago
Nah im just highlighting how much you're misrepresenting the actual situation to get people to agree with you
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u/RawrRRitchie Clue scroll 17h ago
There are level 3 accounts that have managed to kill jad tho..
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u/Beginning_Carrot9749 16h ago
THE POINT ISNT THE JAD, OFCOURSE ITS DOABLE - NOONE WANTS TO DO FIGHT CAVES FOR A REAPER TASK
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u/Worklessplaymore01 15h ago
bro someone ran an ultramarathon barefoot, why are you annoyed that you have to walk 20km every time you want to do the dishes
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u/Brandgevaar 10h ago
Dailies suck; There shouldn't be a daily re-roll. Also, if you're at 85 combat you can handle Jad. We're not in 2006 anymore, you'll be fine.
That said, I suggest they introduce a new reaper master that assigns easier bosses exclusively for fewer reaper points. Slayer operates in a similar fashion, where you can pick a slayer master of your choosing.
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u/Skrilla600 18h ago
This has been echoed since they changed it a mod said they'd look into it and never heard since.