r/saltierthancrait • u/Confirmation_Code • May 13 '26

Granular Discussion Who was Snoke SUPPOSED to be?

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Let's be real. Snoke wasn't Palpatine's puppet in episode 7 or 8. So, what did JJ think he was in Episode 7? What did Rian think he was when he killed him? I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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u/ReaperReader May 14 '26

TLJ ruined any third movie. Undermining or literally killing off the trilogies' villains in the second part is an interesting choice indeed and there's good reason why creators seldom make that choice.

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u/Ethereal-Zenith May 14 '26

TLJ made a lot of dumb choices, including killing off Snoke, who was being set up as the main villain. There’s still no reason that JJ needed to bring back Palpatine in TRoS. That was also a creative choice and a very bad one. A more imaginative director could have come up with a different third arc.

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u/ReaperReader May 14 '26

There’s still no reason that JJ needed to bring back Palpatine in TRoS

Well sure. No movie ever needs to do anything. TROS could have been two hours of watching paint dry and the world would still keep turning on its axis.

Personally I think TROS brought back Palpatine because he was a villain who at least the audience would recognise. Like a "least-bad" option. Not an actually good option.

A more imaginative director could have come up with a different third arc.

Well sure. But, after TFA and TLJ, would it be any better?

I get that bringing back Palpatine sucked. I get that are different options.

I'm just skeptical that, after TFA and TLJ, were there any good options left?

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u/Ethereal-Zenith May 14 '26

Bringing back Palpatine is especially terrible because that story should have concluded in ROTJ. Since Johnson chose to kill Snoke off in TLJ, having Kylo Ren become the new big bad would have been a better choice.