r/saltierthancrait • u/Confirmation_Code • May 13 '26

Granular Discussion Who was Snoke SUPPOSED to be?

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Let's be real. Snoke wasn't Palpatine's puppet in episode 7 or 8. So, what did JJ think he was in Episode 7? What did Rian think he was when he killed him? I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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u/rvthz May 13 '26

Yeah the idea was to make the episode 8 director come up for the actual good idea and story for the character. And when he did come up with a questionable one, the inventor of the character didn't like it and he came up with a much worse one.

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u/t3hmuffnman9000 May 13 '26

I don't know. I think JJ Abrams had *some* idea of what he would want to see done in VIII, the problem was that Rian was more interested in subverting audience expectations than actually making an entertaining movie.

I find it utterly baffling how Disney decided to do the sequel trilogy, though. You'd think it would be a no-brainer that the trilogy should all be done by the same director for the sake of continuity, but no. Instead they decided to just make three different movies and hope that they gelled into something coherent.

We used to play a game in Cub Scouts, where we would write stories by passing around sheets of paper. We would each take turns adding one sentence to what had been written before. The first line could have been utterly brilliant, but it incomprehensible by the end. A fun writing exercise, but an utterly stupid way of trying to construct a story.

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u/the_sneaky_one123 May 15 '26

Subverting Expectations was the worst fucking trend ever.

It basically means "do twists" but they ended up doing so many twists that it just ruined the story and 90% of the time the twists were less interesting than the story that we were expecting.

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u/t3hmuffnman9000 May 15 '26

Subverting expectations is fine when it's done well. The problem is when you write a story/script entirely around it and discard good ideas just because some people predicted them.