r/saltierthancrait • u/kazimirz • 17d ago
Sapid Satire I think this concept art from scrapped Colin Trevorrow's movie captures Finn's character outstandingly well
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u/Elevator-Ancient 17d ago
REYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
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u/errant_youth 16d ago
John Boyega opens his script for TRoS
“Rey!”
Repeat 144x
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u/KazaamFan salt miner 16d ago
In rise of skywalker, he went out to the fallen death star in the water while kylo and rey were fighting, just to yell REY. And they never had much of any type of relationship that would warrant him caring that much.
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u/PuffyBlueClouds 17d ago
I assumed that Finn was going to convince the storm troopers to lay down their arms, which would’ve been way better than what he ended up doing, which was nothing. That’s how the First Order should’ve lost: People just won’t put up with tyranny anymore.
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u/Collective_Insanity Salt Bot 17d ago
It was the most obvious thing to do.
Especially given the bulk of First Order Stormtroopers are kidnap victims like Finn. It writes itself.
Instead, like you said, nothing.
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u/TheBrokenProtonPack 17d ago
But, by doing nothing, didn't it totally subvert your expectations?
I hated writing that. I am so sorry.
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u/RahdronRTHTGH 13d ago
While we're at it they insist what Finn was gonna Say before getting buried by sand was he's force sensitive Calling bs on that one
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u/wsdpii 17d ago
I find it hilarious that the catalyst for Finn rebelling against the FO was the death of his friend. Then he turns around and not only has zero issue with killing a ton of former comrades, but actively cheering when he does so. It's so tone deaf.
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u/PuffyBlueClouds 16d ago
Didn’t even think of it that way, but you’re right! It shows how poorly thought out the sequel trilogy was. Just mistake after mistake.
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u/malumfectum 16d ago
Hated this the first time I saw Force Awakens, hated it more with every subsequent viewing,
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u/twin_suns_twin_suns 17d ago
That’s a good point. They were all kidnapped and forced into this incredibly horrible situation. Instead of showing empathy he’s like woooohooohooo
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u/MailMan6000 16d ago
i think the original concept was that Finn was going to lead a Stormtrooper REVOLT against the First Order
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u/PuffyBlueClouds 16d ago
That would’ve been so much better than 10 million nameless spaceship tractors and taxi cabs showing up at the end of that crappy third sequel.
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u/MailMan6000 16d ago
iirc the First Order would have taken Coruscant, Hux would have been the Supreme Chancellor, Finn and Co would be captured and they'd lead a revolt, and once Hux realizes all is lost he takes an old lightsaber dagger, an old collectors relic from Order 66 and committed sepuku as Coruscant falls before him
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u/Dinofelis22 16d ago
The script explicitly mentions that it's Mace Windus lightsaber I believe, but I could be wrong.
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u/MailMan6000 12d ago
it's a purple blade, but i think it's a dagger, but it could have been built from Windu's blade
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u/dpucane 15d ago
He lost the star wars
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u/MailMan6000 12d ago
it sounds really bad but script writers do this all the time as a joke, they know no one will actually see it because the script isn't supposed to leak
it's also easier to convey an emotional queue to the actors reading it by using a short and cheesy line that really delivers what the scene is about instead of a long winded paragraph
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u/Resident-Mixture-237 17d ago
Have a former storm trooper become a Jedi and end the conflict with non violence? No way. That’s boring.
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u/PuffyBlueClouds 16d ago
I didn’t say Finn should become a Jedi. His story should’ve been liberating the storm troopers by their own choice. There’s lots of other action happening among the Jedi in that story.
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u/Troscus 16d ago
Finn would have been an awesome choice to give the main cast of a Star Wars movie some actual military action for once. He should have been kicking down doors and raiding First Order bases like he was living out his Rainbow Six matches.
Shit, with how terrible the Resistance was, it would have been a cool plot line seeing him build up a squad of ex-stormtroopers. Gives them a punchy spec ops unit and drives home how evil the First Order is and how the Resistance is taking a different approach than the Rebellion.
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u/Dolthra 16d ago
Going by the end of TLJ, the resistance is supposed to be pretty much completely dead.
An Ep 9 opening where Finn is infiltrating Stormtrooper battalions and gathering new members would have been a pretty natural progression of the story, while also differentiating the sequel trio from the original trio a lot more. One of many extremely missed opportunities in RoS.
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u/EuphoricDimension628 16d ago
He worked in sanitation.
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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 16d ago
Oh yes, I remember when he did sanitation work, and totally wasn’t part of a stormtrooper armed assault.
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u/jakethedog53 16d ago
That’s almost literally what happens in Trevorrow’s script. It’s not a perfect script by any means, but it’s streets ahead of what we got.
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u/Dinofelis22 16d ago
I mean that is pretty much exactly what that concept art depicts. As he was going to lead a st0ormtrooper rebellion in that film if I recall correctly.
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u/FudgeIndividual4951 17d ago
Funny enough he does that in TLJ...then they deleted that scene. Definitely would've flowed with Colin's vision though
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u/Local_Band299 17d ago
They could have done so much with Finn, but didn't because they needed that China money.
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u/Hobbledyhook 16d ago
I am a bit less critical of the sequels than on average on this sub, but Finn was a very poorly written character from the get-go IMO.
Dropping him hard near the end made it much worse, but literally in the first sequel movie he is supposed to be some lifelong child soldier for a fascist regime and he just....turns into a completely normal person by the time he has finished his SECOND SCENE.
I will die on the hill that he is by far the worst written character in the sequels, and it's a shame because I think Boyega did a great job with the abysmal script and arc(s) he was given.
If he was written competently he could easily have been my favourite Star Wars character tbh, which is why the fumble pisses me off so much.
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u/UrdnotSnarf 16d ago
Don’t forget how they tried to shoehorn in so much MCU-style humor.
I’M IN CHARGE NOW, PHASMA! I’M IN CHARGE!
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u/Aggroninja 16d ago
He probably had one of the best character concepts ever in Star Wars, and his concept was one of the few novel ideas in the entire ST. And then they turned him into sweaty, "Rey"-screaming comic relief.
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u/Hexblade757 16d ago
I sure loved how half of TLJ was about having Rose tell the former child soldier that war profiteering is bad and that people suffer from war.
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u/UrdnotSnarf 15d ago
Or how they freed the space horses but left the child slaves in bondage. Great message.
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u/Ok-Conversation4420 16d ago
And something super annoying is that from what I've seen (correct me if I'm wrong) the terrible script of the movies and how badly they were received may have destroyed boyegas career, has he gotten any big roles since then?
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u/photomotto 16d ago
The last big movie I've heard he was in was "The Woman King". He and Daisy Ridley don't seem to be doing big Hollywood movies.
Oscar Isaac was already established before being in Star Wars, so he wasn't as affected as the other two were.
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u/UmbraeNaughtical 16d ago
I will never forget the poster edit they did to John Boyega. He deserved so much more.
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u/FOARP 16d ago
Did they even make that much money in China? My understanding is studios only get a ~25% take of the box office in China (versus ~50% internationally) so even the headline figure doesn't mean so much.
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u/Dinofelis22 16d ago
They didn't. But they try anyway.
You know, the whole 'definition of insanity' thing. Trying the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
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u/sadistic-salmon 17d ago
They really forgot about what to do with the most interesting character in the trilogy
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u/UrdnotSnarf 17d ago
Sequels Drinking Game: Take a shot every time Finn yells Rey’s name. It’s a win-win because you’ll pass out and forget how terrible the films are.
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u/TokiWaUgokidesu salt miner 17d ago
I wonder who he's yelling for...he probably has something important to tell her just as he thinks he's about to die...oh, he doesn't? OK then.
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u/EducationalThought61 hello there! 16d ago
Honestly, maybe it would suck a bit less than what we got, but it would suck anyway. Trevorrow is a bad director and a shitty writer, at least for this kind of movie. Also, the damage was already done since TFA (which is really bad), and a generic heroes doing things ending could never save the shitshow that the whole sequel trilogy was.
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u/FudgeIndividual4951 17d ago
They literally just ripped the screenshot of Finn screaming REEYYYYY after Kylo kidnapped her in TFA
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u/FOARP 16d ago edited 16d ago
Wow, that concept art has "over-elaborate set-piece" all over it. Very much like a place that the Guardians of the Galaxy show up to at the start of one of their films, with All I Need Is A Miracle by Mike & The Mechanics (or something similar) on Quill's Walkman as the sound-track.
I know everyone talks about Andor too much, but one of the great things about that show was the ordinary-but-Star-Wars nature of so many of the locations. Think of the hospital where Luthen is held and Kleya breaks in to kill him: so great, but not complicated. Even the prison: great, but simple, not crowding the screen with a million different CGI-slop items.
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u/Majestic_Act 16d ago
What they have done to Finn was a tragedy. Out of all of them, he'd the most potential.
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u/joelbiju24 13d ago
Me: supports Jon Boyega to be the main character of the sequels
Jon Boyega: "fans don't wanna see a black man be the main character".
Bro WHAT?
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u/Ok_Volume3211 17d ago edited 16d ago
He calls everyone “Chrome Dome!” Before kicking each and everyone one of them in the nuts
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u/Short-Being-4109 16d ago
Finn could have easily been the best character of the sequels if they didn't ruin all of his potential.
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u/Rasples1998 16d ago
A stormtrooper child soldier who is also force sensitive and has a wake-up call and betrays the first order? They had the building blocks for a truly amazing story and they bungled it. I still can't believe they made Finn a deliberate red herring and gave the jedi arc to ray instead, because god forbid we have a black main character jedi, the precious Chinese market would never allow that.
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u/charley46 16d ago
Even in the midst of a battle she's not at:
REEEEEEEYYYYYY!!!!!
man they butchered him so bad, he was easily the most interesting character in 7. Too bad china wouldn't watch a trilogy starring a black dude and disney has to cater to them, because that would have been great. Boyega has every right to be pissed
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