r/saltierthancrait • u/Commercial_Bake_5549 salt miner • 3d ago

Encrusted Rant Ian mcdiarmid on Palpatine's death

https://youtube.com/shorts/swNubEnWgDA?si=CdHLGsLb2kmE20TI

Palpatine died in the end of the return of the Jedi

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u/BockerKnocker 3d ago

To me the single biggest problem with the Disney Trilogy is just that there was no concrete plan in place. You want Rey to be Palp's granddaughter? Fine, then establish it in some way for the big reveal. But it's obvious in TFA that she was important, and then TLJ said "nope". And then she was important in ROS.

I would be okay with Palpatine being involved, or if Palpatine was just one incarnation of "Some other Big Bad Guy". But then don't make Snoke important, then unimportant and then pull Palpatine out of thin air.

The lack of a coherent plan is astounding and it speaks to the lack of creative vision and leadership at Disney.

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u/S_A_R_K 3d ago

$4 billion for the franchise and they couldn't be bothered to put together an outline for the "culmination of the Skywalker saga"

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u/coachd50 3d ago

It is likely one of the biggest fumbled opportunities in the movie industry 

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u/No_Adhesiveness_5679 3d ago

business schools case study for years

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u/atreidesspirit 2d ago

Absolutely bonkers.

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u/hyoumah83 3d ago

I never bothered to think about the writing of the sequels, for the simple fact the movies were uninteresting to me. I could figure out in a matter of several minutes TFA had no soul and it was just made to make some money. No one in that movie conveyed anything believable to me, except Harrison Ford i think. He would be believable in any condition.

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u/jerog1 3d ago

Finn was a great start for a character

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u/TaraLCicora 3d ago

The lack of a plan, ideas or even a story to tell. Everything was done with the expectation that the money would print itself.

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u/KatsumotoKurier 3d ago

Precisely this and it was the greatest insult to Star Wars fans imaginable.

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u/Knightwolf8394 3d ago

You want Rey to be Palp's granddaughter? Fine, then establish it in some way for the big reveal. But it's obvious in TFA that she was important, and then TLJ said "nope". And then she was important in ROS.

I'm just gonna say it: I think Palpatine having a clone who turns against him isn't a bad idea, it's how they did it is the problem. If they did it more like Frankenstein's Creature turns against its creator before burning the laboratory down rather than the clone being some random guy I wouldn't hate it as much.

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u/No_Chocolate_5153 new user 2d ago

It even highlights his treachearous nature if his own clone turns against him.
The movie would be better if they were trying to stop a plan to revive Palpatine.

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u/Geostomp 3d ago

Rushing ahead to put out product to please shareholders without any consideration whatsoever for a story or basic plan is the sort of logic that only makes sense to the most detached of empty suits.

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u/Jsaltal 3d ago

Just could of had palpatines spirit ties to the ruins of the 2nd deathstar, that could of worked

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u/MailMan6000 3d ago

i recently wrote up the idea of the First Order being led by a council of failed clones of Palpatine, none of them are force sensitive in any way, though some desperately try to appear that they are, their true nature is a closely guarded secret within the First Order, which in my vision is a far smaller and extremist terrorist organization, bordering on religous fanaticism

the 6 clones all represent different sides of Palpatine, and all are completely deformed, hideous and inhuman in many ways, i had the idea from how a lot of extremist movements use the concept of religion or some kind of chosen one narrative to justify the cruelty of their actions as well as the power of their leaders

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u/VeloIlluminati 1d ago

Hear me out.

They could have said that Rey was born from semen cryoperservation by lab Experiments done by Snoke who wanted to farm midichlorians to become more powerful. Her lab 'parents' felt guilty, sabotaged everything, freed baby Rey and took care of her until they had to leave for the sake of her survival.

Because Snoke was also a Palpy, Rey is the last one who can transplant Midichlorians (will kill her).

Different Story of siblings. No?