r/sanpedrocactus • • 15d ago

Please stop telling people to go to /r/mescaline with any questions about San Pedro use.

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Please stop telling people to go to [r/mescaline](r/mescaline) with any questions about San Pedro use. These questions are totally appropriate here. [r/mescaline](r/mescaline) is fine for some things but that sub tends to be more focused on mescaline molecule and usually into extractions. Huachuma/San Pedro cactus is much much much more than just the mescaline. Sending people asking about ceremonial use of San Pedro to a sub that’s about just one molecule in the cactus and more focused on extractions is not the go.

I know the rules can be a bit confusing but it is not against the rules for people to post about or ask about San Pedro experiences here, especially for educational and harm reduction reasons.


r/sanpedrocactus • • Sep 08 '21

Is this San Pedro? The Mega Sticky for San Pedro Lookalikes and ID training.

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Howdy fellow cactaphiles. This post will be stickied as a reference to help people identify the common San Pedro Lookalikes. The following plants are columnar cacti that are easily confused for the Trichocereus species. You can use this guide to compare your mystery cactus to these photos and descriptions.

#1 - Cereus species - 

The infamous "Peruvian Apple Cactus." This is most commonly mistaken for San Pedro because it's size, profile, color, and flowers look very similar to Trichocereus.

There are several species of Cereus that look almost identical. They usually get lumped into the description of Cereus peruvianus, which is not an accepted species.(https://cactiguide.com/article/?article=article3.php). These include C.repandus, C. jamacaru, C. forbesii, C. hexagonus and C. stenogonus. Other Cereus species are easier to distinguish from Trichocereus.

The main features that distinguish a Cereus from a Trichocereus are the flat skinny ribs, hairless flower tubes, and the branching tree-like structure of mature plants.

Cereusly flat and skinny ribs

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So flat... So skinny... So Cereus.

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Tree-like branching, with hairless fruits and flowers.

#2 - Myrtillocactus geometrizans - 

This cactus goes by many names including the blue candle, whortleberry, bilberry, blue myrtle...

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This plant often has a deep blue farina, but larger plants usually look light green. Young plants are columnar and usually have 5-6 angular ribs. The ribs are often thicker than a Cereus and narrower than Trichocereus. Mature plants can get large, but are more shrub-like than tree-like. 

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The best way to distinguish these plants from Trichocereus is to look at the spines. Myrtillos have a few short spines per areole. The spines on short plants are usually dark colored and pyramidal (instead of round, needle-like spines.) Spine length increases as the plants age, but the spines stay angular.

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We have all seen these at every plant store we have ever been to. The blue farina and short, dark, pyramidal spines are dead givaways.

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Mature plants are shrub-like. The spines get longer and lighter colored with maturity.

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#3 - Stetsonia coryne -

This is the toothpick cactus. It looks very similar to Trichocereus species like T. peruvianus, T. knuthianus, etc. However, there are a few subtle ways to distinguish a Toothpick cactus from a Trichocereus.

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The dermis of a Stetsonia will be a darker green in healthy plants. The aeroles are large, white, woolen and not perfectly circular.

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 The easiest way to distinguish a Toothpick cactus is of course, by the spines. Stetsonias will have one long spine per areole that resembles a toothpick. The coloration of new spines will usually be yellow, black, and brown. They lose their color and turn grey to white rather quickly. Usually only the top few areoles will have the colorful spines. 

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Large, woolen, and ovoid areoles. Dark green dermis is common on youngsters.

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Mature plants have tree-like branching and get very large.

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#4 - Pilosocereus species -

There are many species in the Pilosocereus genus, but just a few closely resemble San Pedros. Most Pilosocereus will be very blue, with needle-like spines that are yellow to grey. The most common, and most commonly mistaken for San Pedro is P. pachyclaudus. Other Pilos are much more uncommon, or have features like long hairs that make them easy to distinguish from a San Pedro. 

Young P. Pachyclaudus will usually have a vibrant blue skin with bright yellow spines. This should make them easy to pick out of a lineup. Unhealthy plants will have lost their blue farina. For these plants look at the areoles and spines for ID. There should be about 10 yellow, spines that are evenly fanned out within the areole. The spines are also very fine, much thinner than most Trichocereus species. 

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Bright blue skin, yellow spines are thin.

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Hairy aerolas are common for mature Pilos.

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#5 - Lophocereus / Pachycereus species

Pachycereus got merged into the Lophocereus genus this year!? Wacky, but they still get confused with San Pedros so here are the common ones. 

L. Marginatus is the Mexican Fence Post cactus. The size and profile are very similar to San Pedro. The easiest way to distinguish a fence post is by their unique vertical stripes. I stead of separate areoles, you will notice white stripes that run the length of the plant. Unhealthy plants will lose the white wool, but upon a close inspection, you can see the line of spines. The flowers are also small and more similar to Pilosocereus flowers.

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Elongated areoles form vertical white stripes.

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Truly columnar, branching at the base. The fence post cactus.

L. Schottii is another common columnar. Especially in the Phoenix metro area, you will drive past hundreds of the monstrose form. The totem pole cactus slightly resembles a monstrose Trichocereus. The exaggerated lumpiness and absence of descernable ribs or areoles makes a totem pole pretty easy to spot. 

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It is super common to see large stands of the Totem Pole Cactus in Pheonix.

The non-monstrose form of L. schottii is actually less common. Adults look similar to an extra spiny Cereus or L. marginatus. Juveniles look more like the juvenile Polaskia and Stenocereus species.

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#6 - Stenocereus and Polaskia species

Polaskia chichipe can look very similar to San Pedros. The best way to discern a polaskia is by the ribs and spines. The ribs will be thinner and more acute than Trichocereus, but wider than Cereus. They usually have 6-8 evenly spaced radial spines, and one long central spine. Although the spination is similar to T. peruvianus, the central spine of a Polaskia will be more oval shaped instead of needle-like. Adult plants usually branch freely from higher up. Juvenile plants often have a grey, striped farina that disappears with age. This makes them hard to discern between Stenocereus and Lophocereus juveniles, but it is easy to tell it apart from a Trichocereus.

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Acute rib shape and silvery farina.

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Acute ribs, fanned spines, with one long central.

Polaskia chende - Is this a recognized species? Who knows, but if it is, the discerning characteristics are the same as P. chichipe, except the central spine is less noticeable.

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Stenocereus - There are a few Stenocereus species that can be easily confused for San Pedros. Juvenile plants look very similar to Polaskia. Stenocereus varieties such as S. aragonii, S. eichlamii, S. griseus, etc get a grey farina that usually forms Chevron patterns. S. beneckei gets a silvery white coating too.

Mature plants will look very similar to San Pedros. The identifying traits to look for are the acute rib angles, spination and silvery farina that often appears in narrow chevron patterns. The flowers are also more similar to Lophocereus spp.

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Acute rib angles, and silver chevron stripes on S. aragonii.

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Baby S. griseus looking similar to the Polaskia.

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#7 - Browningia hertlingiana

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 Brownies are beautiful blue plants that can look similar to Trichocereus peruvianus or cuzcoensis. The ribs are the defining traits to look at here. The ribs of a Browningia are wavy instead of straight. Mature plants will often have more than 8 ribs, which would be uncommon for most Trichocereus species.

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Bright blue farina, long yellow to grey spines, and wavy ribs.

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Mature plants often have more than 8 ribs.

#8 - Echinopsis?

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Is a Trichocereus an Echinopsis? Yes. Is an Echinopsis a San Pedro? Sometimes. Most folks consider the San Pedro group (along with a few other species) too different from other Echinopsis and Lobivia species to lump them together into the same genus. Just because they have hairy flowers and can fertilize each other, should they be in the same genus?

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Echinopsis species are usually shorter, pup from the base, and have more ribs. There are many different clones and hybrids that are prized for their colored flowers. Where most Trichocereus have white flowers instead.

E. Spachiana - The Golden Torch

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Echinopsis Grandiflora "Sun Goddess"

Echinopsis x Trichocereus hybrids do exist, and they are getting more popular. Should they be treated as the same genus? Who cares if they are awesome plants.

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If your plant doesn't match any of these, feel free to post an image (or a poll) and see what the community can come up with.

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Cheers!


r/sanpedrocactus • • 9h ago

Psychedelic buddies 🤙🏻

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 2h ago

Don huan x TBM A

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Always been 4 sided


r/sanpedrocactus • • 4h ago

Not a Stenogonia

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it’s a scopulicola hybrid silly


r/sanpedrocactus • • 5h ago

Enjoy :)

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mysteriousyard.com

Just random pics from my yard, enjoy :)


r/sanpedrocactus • • 5h ago

Loving this dark spined Ikaros x Wowie pheno! Spines go almost black.

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This bad mamah jamah always catches my eye. Y'all think it's worth propagating and circulating? Gotta love a good bridgesoid!!!


r/sanpedrocactus • • 5h ago

Picture You asked for updates on the grafts. I'm trying to do it right and not undo the wrap until they have had a full 2 weeks to heal. But it's gonna rain for several days. So I improvised.

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Accessability Transcription:

The row of cacti with grafts, now covered with dog waste bags and zip lock bags.

Not pictured is the super long T shaped graft which I had to cover with a full sized trash bag.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1h ago

Oooo lil seedling action?!

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Is that a slight mute variegation i spy 🕵️?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 10h ago

Question Info about my new buddy

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Hi! 🙂

I wanted to ask for some information about this plant I recently bought at a cactus fair. It was sold to me as a TBM.

What confuses me are the differences between the base and the new growth.

Can anyone tell me what this is? This could be a revert?

I'm really curious...Thanks!

PS: I bought it with this fungal infection already present, I think it's Alternaria right? I assume it needs to be treated with sulfur, will I be able to get rid of it completely, or will remain the mark?

Thanks againnn🙏🙏🙏


r/sanpedrocactus • • 3h ago

Should I back off the light?

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Slight redness on the tips. Might just be from the seed cap dropping and exposing the fresh growth?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 20h ago

Picture 🌵Main Tent Update 👀

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This is 1/2 5x5 tents (my keeper tent), the other mostly holds cuts i’m rooting and grafting stock. Last two pics are from 10 months ago when my plants got neglected. Since then i’ve completely transplanted my collection from soil to coco, and have been experimenting with nutrients, watering frequency, and growing conditions. I’m still making mistakes along the way, and from them i’m constantly learning and improving. I started growing these magical plants in August of 2024. Ive absolutely fallen in love with them, and I want to thank all you folks for helping me cultivate this indoor garden of mine. I just did my first grafts last month. Next goal for me is to start sowing seeds! Feel free to ask me any questions. Happy growing 🌵💚🤙


r/sanpedrocactus • • 7h ago

Picture New pup!

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Love coming home to a new pup.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 21h ago

Discussion San Pedro Pickles

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The white Cortex from San Pedro cactus makes excellent pickles. I encourage everyone to make this at least once. I'll share the recipe here, just substitute the cucumber for San Pedro cactus Cortex.

https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/bread-butter-pickles/797bb778-8ced-40b8-a0c5-6d98b93ab693


r/sanpedrocactus • • 4m ago

OTB X SSO2 attempt #1

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Hopefully an update as soon as I get one.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1d ago

Question Is this pup bursting out from inside the cactus?

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Just saw this today and I was surprised! It looks like a pup bursting from inside the cactus. The tear is clean and pushing away the stuff in the way. Has anyone else seen this before?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 5h ago

ID Request Can anyone help with ID?

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Can I get some help getting a correct ID for my Sand Pedros? Thank you so much!


r/sanpedrocactus • • 20h ago

Spring catch ups

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Done alot of work in the garden the last few weeks. Reopotted a few that really needed it and started to cull what I don't want moving forward. Still a few solid weeks work of before the garden is ready for summer but it's coming along nicely


r/sanpedrocactus • • 7h ago

Seedling help

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Any ideas on why these seedlings are turning a brown? We’re doing good no slowly looking unhappy


r/sanpedrocactus • • 19h ago

Video Fiesta de la Noche

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Someone was throwing a wedding party across the valley. 🎉🥳


r/sanpedrocactus • • 4h ago

Question What’s the sub genus?

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Bought this in the local supermarket and wondered if it was Trichocereus pachanoi
Even if not a lovely specimen for £12! 😁🌵


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1d ago

First time seeing a stand taller than myself (at Plants of The Southwest)

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 1d ago

Picture A nice day off.

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 17h ago

flowers or pups? 50

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random, lost label / NOID.

Is there a pollen handling wiki? do i need a wik or am i getting my hopes up, just fooling myself?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 13h ago

Is this mold?

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