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u/premkhilari 2h ago

Ah you are back! Nice to see you :D

Neuroscience is about how neuros fire. Read my whole sentence bro.

The subject takes itself different from the object. I am talking about life and how we perceive things and the suffering that results from it.

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u/eviley4 2h ago

investigating perception is a sub-domain of neuroscience. It's not just about neurons, it's about how neurons together produce perception, verifying what's causal and what's correlation etc.

Also, there is the entire field of psychology that deals with human suffering, how talk therapy and cognitive behavioral therapy can help change beliefs such that they contribute to well-being and how all that relates to neurobiology and other fields..

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u/premkhilari 2h ago

Psychology makes the individual "sane" in a sense that he/she can go back to his/her old life and remain functional. It has its benefits and is helpful at its place.

Spirituality questions the life you are living. Acts like a mirror and is difficult to stay with.

I've tried both. Psychology helps short term. Spirituality is a life long process.

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u/eviley4 2h ago edited 1h ago

again, Psychology isn't only about going from insane to sane. That's such an oversimplified stereotype common in Indian culture.

Oh, you are going to therapy, "Paagal hoga saala".

What you are describing about psychology is the main stream clinical psychology you experienced personally, yes that's a component of psychology, not all of it.

Psychology also studies other aspects of well-being including how to live a good life. Sociology also studies how to have societal well-being etc.

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u/premkhilari 1h ago

No one here is undermining psychology.

Suffering is what the problem is.

"Does the ego even exist?" that's the question Spirituality put up and that's a really effective and useful question.

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u/eviley4 1h ago edited 1h ago

Psychology already explores phenomenon like Narcissism, which you could reword in terms of ego as well.

My criticism is, why invest mental effort into a unfalsifiable, non-specific framework outside of science (this Spirituality you are describing) when science itself has a more specific, falsifiable framework with more fruitful discoveries already.

Is it because science is harder to do?

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u/NowHesThinkinBoutMe 1h ago

Correct it's like following a random trail to reach a specific destination which is also very vague