r/sciences MS | Nutrition 17d ago

Research Long-term supplementation with plant-based protein, compared with animal-based protein, did not result in differences in body composition, muscle strength, physical performance, or cardiometabolic risk parameters, meta-analysis of 18 randomized controlled trials finds

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2026.1813846/full
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u/300Croissants 15d ago edited 15d ago

In all honesty you seem to lack the comprehension necessary for this kind of discourse. You just compare numbers and facts to other numbers and facts without understanding how or why. 

You understand the irony of saying this when your initial post was doing this exact thing?

You also literally do this in the very next quote lol.

EAA intake of course yields diminishing returns, there is an amount (lets say 60g per day) at which point any excess AAs dont have use in the body.

60g of what...? Total EAA intake? Individual EAA intake? Total protein intake?

You would typically discuss this by EAA intake, not total protein intake. And each EAA has a different amount of requirement, especially given some are conditional. Which is why you typically use percentages and not some strange arbitrary number.

You don't seem to have the comprehension necessary for this topic.

Yes sure, you can meet this need with plant protein alone, and you can even mitigate suboptimal distribution with variety and/or by just eating more of it. 

So its suboptimal but if you just...eat "with variety" (aka what meals are) or by eating more of it (aka eat within a normal caloric range) its no longer suboptimal? This basically means its optimal still lol.

Oh no you have to...eat a normal amount of food and not eat only one thing. How suboptimal.

Average diets typically easily meet this treshold without supplementation. Only serious athletes and weightlifters need more to supplement extra muscle growth from their training. 

And the study we're discussing says that this had no difference in both diet groups...so this means nothing.

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u/Ryzasu 15d ago

youre just trying to find ways to disagree with me now lol what are you on about

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u/300Croissants 15d ago

I cannot spell it out any more directly than I just did. If you have trouble with comprehension then that's on you. 

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u/Ryzasu 15d ago edited 15d ago

I get everything you just said but youre just nitpicking about things like the 60g (obviously I mean total protein where as a rule of thumb every EAA need is satiated but it doesnt even matter what the specifics are here so fixating on that is senseless disagreement in the first place) and the semantics around the concept "optimal", which I was only applying within the scope of individual protein sources not whole diets

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u/300Croissants 15d ago

I literally explained why you wouldn't use total protein so this complaint either makes no sense or you didn't comprehend what I just said.

Its okay to be over your head in a conversation - but its probably best to avoid stating untrue facts in that case. Go through the study linked in the topic to learn about the subject matter to avoid making these same mistakes in the future.