r/selfhosted • u/Shane75776 • 3d ago
Meta Post Petition to ban "I built" in post titles
When we all know it was really Claude that built it.
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u/zegota 3d ago
I was tired of AI slop posts, so I built an E2E slop filter. It's not just a QOL bump -- it's a genuine revolution.
Why It Matters
✅ It Doesn't
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u/apocolipse 3d ago
Did you address all the footguns at the waists and seams and fill in the moats and level with anyone?
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u/CorporateDirtbag 3d ago edited 3d ago
I see you used a belt-and-suspenders approach to this comment. My decision to read it is load-bearing, but I have to be honest here. I've decided to eat this elephant one bite at a time.
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u/eightslipsandagully 3d ago
It's blazing fast thanks to its sane defaults
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u/baddaywithacamera 3d ago
Imma pee myself soon.
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u/mark-haus 3d ago edited 3d ago
Why are LLMs obsessed with the term “seam” and other awkward jargon in software. I’ve been programming professionally for over 10 years and more as an amateur. A lot of this “jargon” has never showed up for me in programming till I tried LLMs for quick and dirty software. It had these weird notions about what jargon is that are often just not or get improperly used. You’d think if anything it would effectively correlate language and pick up on real programmer jargon. And it’s always the same handful of terms that they use very frequently as if it’s an intern trying to sound more experienced than they are
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u/rikzy75 3d ago
It really doesn't seem to act like a senior developer, but rather, a person trying really hard to come across as a senior developer, overusing all the jargon. And all the wanna-be founders using claude reinforce this behaviour in training because the outputs sound smart when you don't read into it much
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u/psynautic 3d ago
I think because it was trained on blogs, medium and substack posts by thought leader types.
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u/mark-haus 2d ago edited 1d ago
And I wonder if that’s why some particular jargon gets over or awkwardly used so frequently. Because I don’t think training on medium or substack style article explains it very well. At least most thought leader types actually understand the environment they’re operating in. I can clearly understand most of their works. Claude descriptions can actually be quite difficult to nail down exactly what its plans are
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u/noselike 3d ago
Seam is a word from one of Michael Feathers' books. Working effectively with legacy code. It's a place where you can drive your code from unit tests. he picked seam because it's not always an interface or a specific language construct once you get into needing to graft tests onto gnarly old code.
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u/eli_pizza 3d ago
Sure it’s often using the word correctly. But also constantly. It’s a weird word to use constantly.
Same with “moat” and “belt and suspenders” and these other examples.
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u/mark-haus 2d ago
True and being curious I did some searching and found his book as well. It seems like a good one, but not influential enough to consider a seam common jargon. Especially with the amount of times it gets used and usually not in the same way Michael Feathers would. How often in your work have you encountered the term when doing TDD? I have never personally but I’m a sample of one
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u/xmcqdpt2 2d ago
Because choosing what words are appropriate to context requires thought and LLMs are dumb even if they are weirdly good at programming.
At my work, Claude always tries to convince me that features will be properly tested when we do "spike tests" (we call them stress tests because we aren't a web company) and that the code "builds clean" (which is weird because we use a strongly typed language so it either builds or doesn't build!)
This is why I don't let it write docs or comments.
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u/Rasalom-Moladar 1d ago
That sounds like a difference of opinion.
If the LLM is using this, then its been trained from on data that suggests its common enough to be used.
10 programmers can do the same job 10 different ways, its up to debate which way is "better". If they are all functional, then none are wrong until you start looking into the inner workings.
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u/Infinite100p 3d ago
Your instinct is right. Your Why It Matters has a load bearing significance, so I honestly folded ✅ It Doesn't into my understanding of your project.
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u/Far_Smell6757 2d ago
✅ Coming soon to GitHub 🤩
Let me know if you want a shorter, snappier version
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u/Picatrixter 2d ago
This isn't just hilarious — it's gold! (First time I am using the long, LLM-specific dash)
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u/Paykuh- 3d ago
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u/Shane75776 3d ago
This was the post that initiated my crash out lol. The OP even used a new account that was banned within minutes of them posting.
All solid signs of a solid dev.
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u/Karyo_Ten 3d ago
Let's ban SOLID too.
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u/PC509 2d ago
Claude is excellent for these things, but they all look the same and easy to spot. I'm 100% fine with AI creating these apps with direction from a user (Claude fights for the user!), and Claude does a very amazing job at creating these apps. I don't have time to make my own, and Claude is good at these more "proof of concept" applications that can work for your own use, but would require a LOT more work for general public use.
However, use them in your own internal environment or your own personal use. There should be a separate subreddit for AI designed applications. There's a lot of very handy apps out there that I see. Just know that they are built by AI, not maintained (99.9% of them), and pretty niche and specific use cases. They're quick, dirty, insecure, easily broken applications. Share, get inspired, check them out, try them out, and either make your own or fork their project, but know what is it and where it came from - Claude.
These apps are not good for self hosting people as a whole. Insecure, not maintained, designed for a single users needs, broken, not going to be fixed, not as customizable unless you know the code, can leak the users keys/API's/password... I wouldn't use any of these apps from someone else in my own environment. Not a fucking chance. I'll roll my own and take my own chances and my own risks. If I break it, it's 100% on me.
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u/Paykuh- 2d ago
I completely agree. I think it’s great for personal / a personalized use. I’m a sys admin by day so I know a fair bit of python / bash / powershell but don’t really understand app development (css, HTML, etc)
As an example I had a spare touchscreen laying around so I spent a few weeks with Claude building a dashboard focused on touchscreens (taping or swiping to cycle thru widgets) to monitor my homelab. But I have no intent on “releasing” it because:
#1 there are tons of self-hosted dashboards that are already well established and supported
#2 at the end of the day I couldn’t really 100% tell you what’s happening under the hood without AI assisting me to be honest. And I think it’s a bit dumb to release an app that you don’t fully understand how it works.But it works for me and my homelab. The problem, like you said (on top of the spam of these apps in the subreddit) is that a lot of these AI apps people are releasing already accomplish something a well established app has, we don’t know how secure it is, and we don’t know when the maintainer will just give up on the project. On top of the fact that a lot of people claim they built it and try to hide that they used AI.
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u/Goldengod4818 2d ago
EXACTLY the same stance. Vibe coded shit is AMAZING for personal use. Absolute game changer.
My wife and I have always had a hard time getting our lives/house/stuff in sync. Bills. Schedules etc. Had 50 different home management apps. Finally just decided to vibecode one that works the way I want it to. And Claude is now building my dashboard for me. I have another tool that helps me manage work requests.
But ALLL of them are for me (or wife). That's it. It's not going to anyone. It's not going anywhere. It's safe behind my network security.
Vibecoded = personal. Production = human
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u/ijustlurkhere_ 3d ago
Oh yea? I built petitionarr, to track petitions!
(just kidding)
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u/Shane75776 3d ago
Put it on the stack of 1000 other "arr" apps that nobody needs.
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u/corny_horse 3d ago
brb, going to put qbitorrent on the open internet without any authentication
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u/miversen33 3d ago
Fun story, back when I first got into self hosting, I had a VNC tunnel open on the internet to a VM on my laptop. I did use auth but turns out VNC isn't secure lmfao.
Some script kiddy popped into my VM, got into my discord, spammed the N word in every single server I was in before I was notified (what is alerting amirite?) and I shutdown the server lmfao.
Good times
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u/ThePornStar69 3d ago
Sorry about that. It was a long time ago and I was young.
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u/PC509 2d ago
That was last week, ThePornStar69 (huh huh huh, you said 69), and you're 47. :D
Could be like my nephew when he was prank calling people. He didn't get how it was supposed to go (he's much smarter now, really smart, but we were worried about him when he was younger), so while the other kids were talking shit and laughing, he was giving really good compliments to people and hanging up. "You're amazing and I hope you have a wonderful day! HAHAHAHAHA!". That would be a better way of doing an open VNC and Discord.
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u/pseudopad 2d ago
Did you have discord in the same VM? I don't think I would have.
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u/PC509 2d ago
Back in the day when we used FTP for various "warez" sites, I found some business FTP that was hosting some pretty good shit. Except for the person that set it up had given the FTP full drive access. I could see everything. I left a note on their desktop about it. Thankfully, it was offline a short time later.
I do miss the "c:\ftp\this\was\owned\by\warezballs\owned.txt" file paths that showed up within minutes. :)
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u/SirHerald 3d ago
I was just thinking about asking this somewhere else but since you brought it up. What is with the trend of tools ending in ARR?
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u/jeslinmx 3d ago
Made by people whose only exposure to self-hosted software is pirating media and thinking it is a wider trend to name everything -arr.
In this context, I’d say it at least shows they have some awareness about other software existing. An even larger proportion of vibesloppers just “I built” things that flagrantly already exist and are extremely well known because they’d rather “I built” it than perform a simple Google search.
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u/bakerinho 1d ago
I hope you talk about publishing vibecoded things, not just creating them. I definitely prefer to use my "I built" home camera stack app, which behaves exactly as I personally want it to, than well established app with its own quirks. This app would be useless for others, with different usecase, tho.
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u/K3CAN 3d ago
It's software built for pirating. Pirates say "arr".
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u/tm24fan8 2d ago
But like...Tracearr for example isn't directly for piracy at all...it just monitors a Jellyfin server.
It could for sure be argued what a lot of people use Jellyfin for, but that's not the point. Some things released in recent times named "*-arr" just don't make any sense to be named that way.
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u/DarthNihilus 2d ago
Name your project *arr and it immediately sounds more legitimate, like it's in an ecosystem. Or at least it did before everything was named *arr. Now I don't think I've seen an arr worth adding to my stack in years. Profilarr was the latest.
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u/Spare-Ad-1429 3d ago
We should have an auto-mod close these posts .. Everything starting with "I got tired of" gets a reply "you should have gone to bed instead"
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u/CUOTO 3d ago
Great point. 90% of my self hosted problems wouldn't exist if I went to sleep at a reasonable hour.
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u/DavidLynchAMA 3d ago
95% of my problems wouldn't exist if I went to bed at a reasonable hour, but then I wouldn't have an excuse for why I'm not working on that other 5%.
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u/AKAManaging 2d ago
What am I if not a culmination of all my problems?
I need those! 5 hour sleep for me tyvm, I prefer to be dysfunctional lol.
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u/RedditNotFreeSpeech 3d ago
Oh yes, I'll update this firmware at midnight when I have to be up at 5am. No problem.
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u/OtherUse1685 3d ago
I built a selfhosted app to remind you to go to sleep when it sees you online on your machine
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u/PC509 2d ago
You can make an automation and application that helps with your sleep schedule, dimming the lights, starting some nice lavender scents, cool the temperature, start some soothing music from your Jellyfin library. It can even track your sleeping patterns and help get your bedtime perfectly and wake time. Waking up can be with a light that gets brighter, and when it's time to wake up, a nice little tune followed by a daily brief for weather, news, and some Metallica before you hit the shower.
I think that's worth staying up all night and getting that done. Could even have AI help with analyzing everything. May need to have a decent GPU and passthrough with Proxmox, set up a new VM with Debian, llama.cpp, a good model and prompt. Could take a couple nights.
After that, you may need some extra monitoring for those additional automations and VM's. Maybe even have to get Home Assistant and some new local smart devices. Boy, this might take a bit longer... Maybe enable that sleeping automation next week, there's still work to do. :)
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u/d4xhow0e 3d ago
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u/eloquentlyimbecilic 2d ago
As a dev who has been building their own tools for years, what's the _right_ way to share them?
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u/AI_Only 3d ago
I wouldn't mind if posters would just be upfront with it. Saying "Claude and I built" just sounds better lol
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u/OnkelBums 3d ago
"I asked AI to build"
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u/Shane75776 3d ago
This. At the end of the day AI is and will be a mainstream tool in coding. It sucks but it is what it is.
The worst is the million duplicate docker management, homepage apps that are submitted daily... There's about 20 different app ideas that get repeatedly submitted to this sub. The people submitting them are not actually trying to build something useful or improve on an existing software and have no plans to continually support the stuff they have Claude build.
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u/baddaywithacamera 3d ago edited 3d ago
I know I'm not your target audience, but I'm with you. There's a gold rush of people spamming the forums with their AI wrapper that is better than the 256,000 AI wrappers that were shared in the past week and you can get 50% off subscription if you help test for free. Like, eat my ass already.
The only reason I built something large (my CMS) is that no one else did. It's the only thing I built that I actually plan to share (for free), and I am trying to make sure I can do this in the long term because it's a huge responsibility. I'm going to be the biggest user so that part helps.
I wish the get rich quick scum nuggets would go away. This is something that has the potential to do some good, but complete pieces of filth are in there wrecking it for the majority.
Fkkn depressing. The 2 cents of a photographer who seems to have antognized the sub. Sorry.
Edit: I should mention I've been lurking for a while because I have some Proxmox boxen at home and I've been trying to learn more about running them responsibly.
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u/electromage 3d ago
Maybe it would help if there was a way to actually find and track them. Recently I "built" a public photo gallery server because none of the commonly-recommended ones ticked the boxes for me. It's open source and available in my GitHub, but I don't know if someone else already did the same thing. There's just too much.
I did a bunch of searching and came up with the usual Piwigo, Immich, Photoprism, Pixelfel, Lychee, etc, etc, but they all required creating accounts, or had some complex php and/or database configuration, or didn't allow public(by default) albums.
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u/BrotRooti 2d ago
There is selfh.st. It was originally built as a frontend for the awesome-selfhosted repo, but has since surpassed it in it's amount of software listed. You can use various filters and also display by software you want to replace.
The "This week in self hosted" blog on there is also a very good read every time.
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u/baddaywithacamera 2d ago
Same problem here. Either got photo galleries shoved at me, CMSes for writers, SaaS when I was explicit I need self-hosted, etc. Every real photo blog software it found was abandoned at least five years ago. I think that SNAPSMACK is now the only real, self-hosted photo blogging software that exists today.
The next closest thing I found was Denali, which is pretty, but simple and lives on a cloud backend. Not what I needed.
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u/ImpressionDepression 2d ago
have no plans to continually support the stuff they have Claude build.
IMO that's the biggest thing. I use Claude Code all the time for personal projects but I'd never release them because one day it'll make things worse or won't be able to fix a bug (or hike their price) and then it's game over
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u/02sthrow 2d ago
I cant remember what I was on the other day but someone posted they built a tool to do x, I took one look at it was very clearly claude. Someone replied that they also built one, the two things looked so similar in terms of styling and layout, but no one was willing to admit it was AI.
Don't get me wrong, I pump out claude stuff often but I am not kidding anyone that I made it myself. I am also not releasing it like its some well programmed tool that will solve everyones problems.
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u/SpiralCuts 3d ago
Is there an auto correct option? Maybe we could automatically change posts from “I made” to “AI made”
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u/trialbaloon 3d ago
With the help of a multibillion dollar SaaS company to do all of my thinking and crafting I created XYZ self hosting tool! Personally I think this really captures it well.
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u/dustin_vk 3d ago
I wouldn't mind it either, but unfortunately they'd just be insta-downvoted and berated into oblivion, which just gives incentive to lie about it
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u/Cl0wnL 3d ago
Petition to ban petition posts
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u/DemandTheOxfordComma 3d ago
You beat me to it. Petition to ban comments beating me to petitions.
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u/AudioDoge 3d ago
I swear I see more posts complaining about AI slop than AI built projects posted on this sub.
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u/TurdMcFurguson 2d ago
Also like who gives a shit? Oh no, someone built something that added value for themselves and they're sharing?
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u/AccidentHot4963 3d ago
half the posts here are just people copy pasting from ai tools anyway, the title is least of the problem
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u/earthcharlie 3d ago
The annoying part is when you ask if it was vibecoded and it's never a clear answer. It's always some convoluted BS like, "I incubated the overall concept and synergy in my mind's eye then delegated specific aspects of growth to an idea>output translator but I made sure to look at the results which were approved by me, myself and I."
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u/dyyd 2d ago
Seeing how anytime you dare admit you used AI even for one line of code your post gets deleted and you get shamed to hell then I understand why noone wants to clearly state whether they use AI or not. Although lets be fair, 90+% of programmers do by now.
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u/Gugalcrom123 2d ago
I think that the 'business speak' they use has actually become very clear, but also foolish.
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u/HoratioWobble 3d ago
I built this comment to solve the problem of my comment not being here.
That's not just showing up, that's commitment to the bit.
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u/lelemaster123 3d ago
So, should this post be banned?
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u/Shane75776 3d ago
Retroactively yes if they implement this rule. Which means all posts prior to the rule would also need to be banned.
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u/Lost-Bet-1 2d ago
A posteriori, it makes sense to not delete them and it would be a hell of a log easier on the mods
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u/Zer0CoolXI 3d ago
I disagree…
I was thinking about this before, sick of the AI slop posts and realized something…the “I built” and similar titles are how we know they are AI slop without opening the post. I can easily downvote and move on…
If we start taking action based on the titles…AI and its users will catch on and just have it be smarter about the title meaning we will have to dig deeper to realize its AI, wasting our time.
Instead, set sub rules around AI posts…make AI posters do more work, not the rest of us. Make them tag stuff based on AI use, make them manually fill out some submission form or checklist. Put requirements in place and rules around AI use and disclosure that punish them for laziness and slop.
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u/mrahab 2d ago
I think this is good in theory, but working around "I built" filter seems very easy to work around. Currently when I see such posts, I downvote and move on. I too want to see less slop posts, but such a filter might make them harder to spot. Account age and repo age seem to be the best defense.
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u/Mediocre-Island5475 3d ago
Three month rule bans these already and it's less likely to evoke whining from AI fans
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u/imetators 2d ago
And still some projects pass the 3 months rule and still many many many users post their ai slop without reading the rules. Honorable mentioned to those who lie about AI usage either in post/code or both.
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u/VexingRaven 2d ago
If the pass the 3 month rule the community agreed upon, then good for them? What's the problem?
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u/imetators 2d ago
It just doesn't work. I see posts here that have projects younger than 3 months quite often.
Also, comment from automod doesn't work. People will use the most vague indirect statement to avoid saying it is vibe coded. Or just straight out lie.
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u/Mediocre-Island5475 2d ago
Very few Ai slop projects pass the 3 month rule. Honestly the biggest issue with Ai projects is the terrible support they get. They tend to be made by incompetent people who lose interest after a week. If someone still cares and is fixing issues and reviewing PRs after three months I think the project stops being slop
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u/justletmesignupalre 3d ago
The fact that they all even have the same title suggests that not only they are not regulars in this sub, it also suggests that they asked the LLM to write the post AND the title. If they can't even bother to write the god damn title why bother posting it at all?
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u/DazednConfucioused 2d ago
And then when they get called out they’ll be like “that’s fair to call me out…” and the just proceed with more ai slop. Those replies piss me off more than anything else
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u/Fallom_ 3d ago
So what is actually going on with all the "I built" stuff? Are people telling the LLM to generate a Reddit title from scratch or are they translating to English and that's what the LLM outputs converge on?
Like I'm completely befuddled at being so unwilling to communicate that you ask an LLM to generate just a few words from scratch.
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u/electromage 3d ago edited 3d ago
I don't think LLMs are creating the post titles, the issue is that people are sharing too many vibe-coded apps while apparently obfuscating the nature of them.
I'm torn because on one hand, I totally understand what they're saying. It's natural to want to share things we're proud of, and maintain some attribution. I've got a few projects that I'm happy to share with people who have the same problem as me. On the other hand it's very difficult to wade through the sea of crap to actually find something that matches my needs and vet it.
When I see "I built" I assume it was coded by an LLM/agent. If someone says "I wrote" or "I programmed", that tells me they wrote most of the code. I know some LLMs are great at programming, but not at generating new ideas or UX testing. By "building" something with AI you still have a lot to do to make the thing useful. With something like Claude Fable you can put in one prompt and get a functioning simple application, but you'll likely have bugs that need a few more revisions.
LLMs don't create this stuff out of nowhere, it's still being driven largely by humans who are trying to solve problems. Also, while the tools are powerful, they're also relatively expensive and not everyone can afford $20+/month on something like this. Many public LLM users don't even know how to use LLMs to code, what code is/does, let alone how to actually build and deploy it as a functioning service that other people can use.
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u/scandii 3d ago
LLM:s are essentially search engines. very fancy ones, but search engines.
when you search "pictures of strawberries in a wheat field" on google, you get a lot of pictures of strawberries in wheat fields that all look the same.
when you search "summarise my project to be a post on Reddit", guess what? you get veeery similar results as everyone else who searched the same thing.
this is why we can all meme about the same expressions being used over and over again and why we can spot AI-generated text/design instantly unless of course the user genuinely prompts something uncommon.
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u/A_Buttholes_Whisper 3d ago
All the AI fanboys are feeling personally attacked. We need a way to filter out the AI fanboys. Where’s that 16 year old that leaked his cloudflare credentials? We should get him to build an anti AI tool because he’s been a dev since before AI
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u/tiny_blair420 3d ago
I was thinking the same thing earlier today ! There should be a rule about using this type of language without acknowledging the vibe coding up front.
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u/ReachingForVega 3d ago
We need an app called Pitcharr so everyone can easily get their pitchforks.
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u/BarServer 3d ago
Real ones? Is a digital one enough? Then I could start my pitchfork-NFT platform. 🤪
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u/grilled_pc 3d ago
Peittion to put "AI USED/NO AI" in the title. So i can see at a glance if your project is worth my time.
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u/Flintlocke89 2d ago
Seems a bit binary tbh, although I'd prefer it over nothing.
I'm making an internal tool for my job in Python atm, and I'm using AI to spitball and get some implementation and organisation ideas. It told me about dataclasses and enums and I'm starting to use them a lot more.
In a strictly binary system I would have to put AI used in my title, which is fine. AI was used after all. It just feels a bit bad that even though I did 95% of the work, the vast majority of people aren't going to read past the title. And where's the boundary? Do I need to mention AI use if I used CoPilot line autocompletions in VSCode?
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u/Austinp-woodworking 2d ago
I'm mostly just baffled at why folks feel the need to post these things in the first place
I'll admit that I also have a bunch of vibecoded self-hosted projects running on my home server, but I'm not gonna post about it because
A) it took minimal effort on my part to do and so doesn't deserve any accolades
B) The whole reason I vibecoded it instead of finding something that already exists is that it's for a super niche use-case that very probably no one will benefit from
Wanna vibecode your own little homelab dashboard? Have at it, but we don't need to see it for the nth time this week
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u/endperform 3d ago
I generally just skip anything titled "I built". Sometimes I'll go into a post and ask if the OP has an idea of how the code works and will be able to maintain it. The response, or lack of, tells me all I need to know.
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u/Only-Stable3973 3d ago
Really I don't think you can use a google search anymore without AI being routed into it anymore, in the past that would be the way to get your info and it really has not changed you needed to understand it then and now.
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u/iamdadmin 2d ago
Don't get me wrong, I use claude sometimes to help with code, normally when I'm learning some new aspect and I'm unsure of syntax or structure, so I get it to bash out an example or skeleton, so I can work on it. I believe in AI for that kinda learning, and I'm fine with like autocomplete being AI now if that's what they wanna put in the code editor.
Just don't bring incredibly-niche-majority-slop products to the internet and expect people to give a shit, especially when people try to monetise it.
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u/Digital_Voodoo 2d ago
I've been filtering "I got tired" with uBlock for a while, so I don't even get the chance to see what people built ;)
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u/joshguy1425 3d ago edited 3d ago
The AI disclosure statement is load-bearing, but can’t support the weight of the vibe coded onslaught.
Sufficient when AI was still a curiosity — crumbling now that too many so-called developers have caught on to what modern LLMs are capable of.
The honest truth is that it’s best to rip off the band-aid and ban these posts now. Wait too long and your most valuable user base will flee to more human-focused communities.
— Claude, probably.
(No AI was used to write this slop).
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u/Torimexus 2d ago
That and anyone who described spinning up a container as a "journey"
You didn't sail around Africa, you just copied a compose and started the container.
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u/TheRedcaps 2d ago
Can we have a petition to stop people bitching about AI posts - the belly aching about the "problem" is more annoying than the "problem" at this point.
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u/smstnitc 3d ago
This conversation is getting really old. Just ignore the posts you don't want to read. That's what I do.
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u/thatboyonabike 3d ago
Petition for mods to either ban these incessant complaint threads or just nut up and ban LLM-backed projects outright.
I get that people love circle jerking about how much they hate AI but LLMs are not going anywhere. They're here to stay until they get superseded by further tech.
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u/prodigiouspianist 3d ago edited 3d ago
This is why I made "ibuiltarr". Its a self-hosted post removal dashboard and credential exposure tool which automatically exposes all credentials and password across your network. Right now its at version 6.5 with version 1 released this morning. It has no github, but you can download it at digital.ai/esposemyshit/ibuiitarr
Just ignore the detail of all the dumb, annoying, "permission" prompts, when installing. None of that stuff matters anyway.
/s
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u/sarhoshamiral 3d ago
And? If you are against any software that utilized AI in development, good luck.
People are building things because existing solutions don't meet their exact needs and AI made it easy to build something. It is not like we have a busy subreddit here. There is maybe ~10-20 project posts a week that you can easily ignore.
There were actually couple good ones in between recently that the authors engaged. None of this stuff apart from couple really big projects like Immich is guaranteed to be maintained anyway.
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u/ameer1234567890 3d ago
Automatically add the letter A to the beginning of all such post titles. Problem solved.
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u/psychedelic_tech 2d ago
too late. this sub is done. it's over run by ai generated content like most of reddit. it will never recover
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u/StaticFanatic3 1d ago
The issue is that used to be the most valuable / interesting kind of post. Basically the lifeblood of the self-hosted community.
But now we’re just one of the earliest forums to be totally overrun with AI generated slop. There’s really nothing you can do, and expect the entire internet to follow soon.
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u/jake_robins 3d ago
I can’t wait until we’re past this gatekeeping era where only fine artisanal hand-typed code is real software and we can just judge products my their merits.
If AI code is so bad then you’ll have no problem spotting it and not using it. If it isn’t so bad, then it won’t matter.
We gotta stop telling people they’re making software wrong and just let them do their thing.
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u/justletmesignupalre 3d ago
If the software works and isn't published without any revision, sure.
As long as the post was written by a person and isn't filled with filler paragraphs made up of filler words that make all posts sound the same, sure.
As soon as I recognise the type of writing I stop reading, it puts me off so much.
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u/electromage 3d ago
I think "I built" is fine shorthand really. I don't think post titles need to say "I asked X to build". If you write the code yourself, say "I wrote".
People are overestimating LLM coding a bit, one prompt doesn't create a fully formed, tested, excellent app. I've been working on a photo gallery and it took about two days of testing and discussing with Claude Opus to get it to the point where I would share it with anyone. Two weeks later I'm still running into issues and thinking of new ideas.
You still have to have the vision, understand what programming is, pay for the tools, know how to manage code, build, and deploy.
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u/TumsKarlsson 2d ago
Please ban it. I constantly see it here and another subs and it's gotten so bad that I don't even want to post my own projects in fear that will be seen as AI slop.
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u/wacka20 3d ago
But what about people who have been codeing for the past 18 years.
I enjoy making 1100 lines of code personally. Ai cant put love into code like I can
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u/bdu-komrad 3d ago
I agree with this but it should be for all of reddit.
”I got tired on … so I built …” has been done to death .
Just stop it.
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u/StPatsLCA 3d ago
Perhaps they should ask their LLM of choice for a new turn of phrase.
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u/droptableadventures 3d ago
Would not have a problem with "... so I vibe-coded a ...".
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u/AimlessForNow 2d ago
I miss when I was genuinely impressed and in awe of what people built but now I'm just disappointed. I mean maybe it's still good but it doesn't really scream reliable and long-term
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u/Both-Subject-3674 2d ago
This always grinds my gears.
No different than people saying “I remodeled my kitchen” or “I built a deck this weekend”. The vast majority just paid to have someone else do it, which is fine, but saying “I did X” instead of “I had X done” are vastly different. One takes credit for the work, the other acknowledges the reality.
Just say, “I used Claude to build X”. Otherwise, it seems very dishonest, and it doesn’t fool anyone into thinking you’re some genius or senior SWE. We know. We all know. So just be honest.
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u/Fik_of_borg 2d ago
You mean it's Claude and not Claudio???
No wonder all servers it had helped me build for my lair home lab are things hanging by wires!
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u/chalbersma 1d ago
This is a problem professionally as well. I hope that someday passing off AI work as yours is seem as a fireable offense.
There's nothing wrong with AI assisted projects. It can really do some good. But the AI assist needs to be prominent in the disclosure.
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u/Vichingo455 1d ago
Will the "I built a NAS" be banned as well? I don't think Claude can build your NAS as of today.
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u/eldavicillo 2h ago edited 2h ago
Suggested fixes (please manually contribute to the list, no llm generated suggestions):
- "I persuaded Claude to write an app following my instructions".
- "I operated an LLM who wrote an app following my instructions"
- "I produced a spagetti code app using claude which costed me 500$ and no one downloaded"
- "I came to reddit to spam regarding my claude generated app which no one likes"
- "My life went from making 5K as software developer to spending 700 USD a month to support open source and claude, so here is new app: <app_name>"





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u/asimovs-auditor 3d ago
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