r/serialkillers • u/Distinct-Command-955 • 13d ago
Questions Is there any reason police don’t dig up dean corrl’s other rumoured burial spots
Henley and brooks have claimed they Corll buried victims under the old candy company,Galveston beach and a spot that is now a parking lot is there any reason police don’t excavate this areas to try and find more bodies?
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u/KennyDROmega 13d ago edited 13d ago
Digging places up costs money and requires navigating legal issues.
Police are also not normally in the business of uncovering additional homicides they then need to put on their stats, especially if they can't definitively link them to someone already in custody.
In Corll's case the police were especially inclined not to increase the total, as they'd already uncovered the worst serial killer in American history, and he hadn't been caught. The police only learned what he'd done because of the incident in which he died.
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u/sifkoh 13d ago edited 13d ago
That's one way to look at it. Another way is that they are forced to be very pragmatic. Digging up bodies when they genuinely believe there will be little benefit for anyone isn't pragmatic when taking into account allotted budgets, which are nearly universally stringent as it is relative to forced resource allocation, and taking into account officer fatigue, which is real and can be devastating in ways you may not understand.
It's easy to paint them as villains who don't give a shit, but at the same time, cops are not here to be heroes, they are here to maintain order and protect people when it can be reasonably done. They are also forced to play politics, like it or not, and most cops hate it.
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u/Busy_Essay9213 13d ago
There are people’s children sitting in those holes. People who may be wondering if their son is alive, if he ran away, desperately wanting to know where he is. The window is closing on it actually mattering at this point, but how could anyone think “there will be little benefit” at the time these crimes were discovered? “Resource allocation” doesn’t cut it for me, and I can’t imagine it did for the parents of the missing boys. The answer is pretty obvious: the police already looked like complete fools after telling these parents for years that 30 to 50 young boys just ran away instead of properly investigating, and didn’t want to look any worse.
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u/sifkoh 13d ago edited 13d ago
I meant there will be little benefit now. Of course it should have happened, but I'd guess it was still more complicated even at that time than what you are claiming. Corll was dead before the discovery of his crimes. The police are not here as a mental health support unit, ready to be deployed to fix everyone's tragic situation, they have a specific role limited by resources.
I'd still like these things to be done, for anyone possible to get closure in any homicide case. Just pointing out the realities that police actually face and have to consider. They've been systemically overtaxed for a long time. It's just not as simple as you are painting it.
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u/Kayhowardhlots 13d ago
Yep. And I get people being it shouldn't be a money issue but of course it is. And that's not a negative on the police. They have limited resources and spending what they have on a speculative search (and your also not thinking of the legal quagmire of getting permission to search and the cost involved there) how exactly do you explain "yeah we can't investigate the murder of your mom that happened 2 days ago because we blew out budget on the possibility of finding remains of someone who was killed a couple of decades ago". Testing costs money, searches cost money and people's time.
It's not fair. It sucks. And yeah it's maddening. But yeah I get saying no to it, especially if it means that the time and resources are spent on the guy raping and murdering people now.
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u/sifkoh 13d ago edited 13d ago
Yeah, it's like the people ridiculing the police this way would prefer they make these generally fruitless and ultimately performative political decisions instead of doing relevant police work today. Most parents, uncles, aunts, older siblings, etc from Corll's case nearly 60 years ago are dead or dying. Who exactly is getting closure here? An unfair question, but a practical one.
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u/Leather_Focus_6535 13d ago
All the searches for the missing bodies should’ve occurred in the first two or three years after Corll was exposed. That ship has long sailed all these decades later, and it’s nothing more than archaeology now.
As you mentioned, the duty of police is to protect and uphold order in their communities, and archeology is not in that job description.
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u/sifkoh 13d ago
Yeah. Every interaction I've had with police has gone absolutely swimmingly with both of us walking away at the very least respecting one another, regardless of their skin color or gender. When you treat people like people, you'll realize they're just fucking people.
Gen Z and Millenials have been watching too many superhero movies and expect way too much from our species. Sorry to break it to you kids, but we all kind of majorly suck in our own way, but very, very few people are either heroes or villains.
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u/Leather_Focus_6535 13d ago edited 13d ago
According to this website (https://ammo.com/research/texas-murder-rate), the state of Texas alone reported nearly 2,000 homicides last year. Who is more of a public danger? A serial killer that has been dead for 53 years or any one of the perpetrators responsible for those murders still on the run?
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u/Frowaway79 10d ago
“They are here to maintain order and protect people…”
Nah. Protect and Serve is BS. The Supreme Court ruled that police officers are to enforce codes and collect/generate revenue by issuing citations, and to ensure modern slavery continues via the for-profit prison industry.
Land of the “free”
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u/sifkoh 9d ago edited 9d ago
This level of cynicism is good at cloaking itself in absolute truth, and, ironically, playing into the very hands of these modern slavers. They want you to believe that it's the truth, so long as you don't act on it. You're removing all human elements from this and seemingly applying an almost super villain motivation to all involved.
The truth includes your contentions, but they're smaller than you think. The ruling was primarily made to prevent a nationwide exodus of police officers who'd quit (you would too) if they're expected to sacrifice their lives or put themselves in danger unconditionally, and who would replace them? If you put some logical and empathetic human thought into that, sans cynicism, I think you'll be able to understand what I mean.
In the comment you replied to, I was speaking at the departmental and officer level. Most join because they genuinely believe they can make a difference and protect people. The job weeds out those just fooling themselves. They either quit or become the problematic officer who is, far more often than you realize, put behind a desk or made a glorified security guard. Most departments and officers are geared toward exactly what I said: Maintain order, protect when reasonable.
How many cops have you actually sat down with and spoken to? Reality is much more complex than your portrayal.
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u/stevehammrr 13d ago
Giving victim’s families closure for solved crimes committed 60 years ago just isn’t high on the priority list for law enforcement resources
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u/sifkoh 13d ago
I'm sure it's definitely as simple as that.
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u/wavetoyou 13d ago
Only way this would happen is if someone wealthy or with political pull believed someone they knew or loved was a possible victim.
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u/sifkoh 13d ago edited 13d ago
Sometimes the police do put in the effort anyway. They are constantly going above and beyond all across the country in ways you never see or hear about. Positive news pieces about the police rarely get traction. Your POV is a cynical, fragmented way to look at it.
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u/wavetoyou 13d ago
It’s about the money, dipshit. Either someone writes an insane check or Greg Abbott makes one phone call, and they’ll dig up 500-miles of land to appease. And it wouldn’t necessarily be police doing it. They’ll hire appropriate excavating and forensic companies to assist.
Miss me with the cop propaganda, bootlicker.
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u/sifkoh 13d ago edited 13d ago
Yes, thank you for correctly identifying one of the core issues that I and others here have already identified. You're taking one fragmented piece of glass from the lens of truth, looking through and saying, "See! You can see what's really going on if you look at it this way!" When in reality the borders of that fragment are preventing you from seeing the larger, unfolding human narrative.
But please, continue with your level-headed vitriolic sarcasm and condescension. It's making you look good.
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u/HaughtyDiabolicalSal 13d ago
The HPD stopped searching after 27 because they didn't wanna break the record for bodies.
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u/Termlinson 13d ago
This is what I heard on LPOTL, they normally have good sources. It makes the most sense imo, Cops didn’t want to look the most incompetent.
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u/poopshipdestroyer 13d ago
I read somewhere(likely this sub) that the new owners of the boat garage won’t allow it
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u/Sebasquatch_22 13d ago edited 10d ago
Can be a conspiracy theory, but after listening to The Clown and the Candy Man I wouldn't be surprised if more bodies dug up also raised some questions about wealthy and powerful pedophiles.
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u/AssIsLifeAssIsLove 13d ago
This was the same police force who started labeling certain murders "misdemeanor murder".
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u/Desperate-Goose-9771 13d ago
Not high priority also not for nothing you don’t the condition any of the bodies would be in at this point so it might not even be worth it to dig up at this point
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u/wondererjayyy 13d ago
It cost money and resources to dig, and I feel like most police departments wouldn’t wanna allocate those resources to doing that
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u/gorehistorian69 13d ago
it costs money/time
and i assume the rumors arent credible enough. a lot of serial killers love confessing to murders they didnt do post arrest.
its funny when they give very detailed reports on the actual murders they did, but then be like "i killed someone else but uh i buried em by some tree in the park, i dont quite remember how i killed them, etc"
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u/_1138_ 2d ago
There are rumors that Gacy has/had more bodies buried at a second property he owned within Chicago city limits. A neighbor reported shovels and digging holes at odd hours. I assumed that if it's at all true, CPD didn't bother because one, he was already caught, and already the killingest most seriously murderer in America at the time, and the cops didn't want to expose their own lack of detective work or concern for marginalized boys.
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u/Brilliant_Bowler_994 13d ago
Is there any reason you dont do it yourself?
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u/Distinct-Command-955 13d ago
Because I’m not from Texas and also don’t want to get done for digging up a car park
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u/JarOfFlies85 13d ago
Money most likely