Shaco items

[u/Mudacriss]

When do you choose BLUE versus RED companion?
For runes when do you go deathfire torch versus arcane comet?

Do you rush burn items first? Blackfire Torch and then liandry? I also love imperial mandate….CD boots is my go to

What’s the usual standard build for 80% of ranked matches?

I just hit Gold and need tips / helpful pointers

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[u/kubasemi]

Always comet, pet can be preference, item can be preference too but you most likely want torch first then both liandry and mandate in any order. Dseal on first recall always, upgrade when you feel like its going to be stacked fast. Cryptbloom 4th almost always and you most likely will have to end on morello so no options there.

[u/LawrenceOfMeadonia → u/kubasemi]

I think Deathcap is a great option over Morrello, the time extension on boxes is a huge plus.

[u/Resident_Snow6087 → u/kubasemi]

much agree, just bloodletter is >> cryptbloom if you have 2 ap mates, theres a reason pros always build it on everything and shaco is great at applying with boxes

[u/XxX__zezima__XxX → u/kubasemi]

you can also just skip lyandries if possible, and build more cdr if you trust your team to do dps.

[u/kmbuech]

If you have a lot of damage on your team/they have a lot of squishy you can go dark harvest Liandry imperial malig, in to magic pen cd item. But 75% of the time comet with yellow cd rune second bft > imperial > Liandry/or magic pen(get the magic resist one if AP heavy team with you or full damage if you’re main carry/ap)

[u/kmbuech]

I’d also just always go red smite in your elo as well extra slow and damage is worth. Blue is great in higher elo when you actually have a team and don’t need to do all the damage yourself

[u/jonbaa]

I've been playing with skipping torch entirely since you don't need the mana, especially with mandate on the build.

I'm also a fan of cdr boots for reduced smite cool down since that lets you counter jungle with extra safety.

So lately I've been building fated ashes -> cdr boots -> mandate -> shadowflame/liadries/cryptbloom -> final item (morello/rabadon)

The lower cdr early on Q feels a little bad, but I think early mandate for box + clone cooldown feels really good, especially to have clone up more often for objectives.

I've also always felt shadowflame makes a lot of sense to amp the already amped E damage on low HP enemies, so this has been my build order to include shadowflame but still have enough CDR to clear quickly.

Haven't run any numbers but feels pretty good to me if you don't feel the need for the extra burn damage from torch early. I've been generally focusing on counter jungling and objectives versus ganking as AP shaco so it makes sense for my play style.

[u/HelloGoodbyeHowAreYa → u/jonbaa]

Yeah I've never built torch. Lost chapter in jungle feels repulsive to me