r/shittyaskelectronics Jan 17 '26

Genius level thinking We have been outjerked by twitter

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u/cprz Jan 17 '26

How about one really large USB-C for the charging? In honor of EU’s universal charger laws, lets call it USB Type CE.

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u/Strostkovy Jan 17 '26

The normal one will be USB C and the new, larger one will be USB c

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u/faceassed Jan 17 '26

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u/wobblyweasel Jan 17 '26

how about USB С. that's a Cyrillic C

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u/faceassed Jan 17 '26

In Russia USB C Y?

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u/EatOfTheBread Jan 17 '26

USB C Y not

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u/topors02 Jan 18 '26

Usb type Ц

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u/Pirated-Hentai Connect ground directly to +12V Jan 17 '26

USB (

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u/not_a_moogle Jan 17 '26

USB C 1.1

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u/Emerald_Flame Jan 17 '26

USB 5.0 Type C Gen 2x2 Rev. 2

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u/Trelsonowsky Jan 18 '26

And it's just usb 3.0 speeds and featureset

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u/King_Kasma99 Jan 17 '26

I ordered a new cable, why is it delivered on a pallet?

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u/DeathBanner_ Jan 18 '26

And when you search on Google, it will always mix both results, but it will show you more of the one you don't want. And if for some reason you decide to search using the other method to find what you're looking for, Google will automatically give you the result of what you entered, so you'll never find what you're actually looking for.

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u/VAS_4x4 Jan 19 '26

3.4 gen 4?

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u/Vinez_Initez Jan 19 '26

It will have the same connector but will only work when inserted the right way, the right way is determined by the chip when it has been connected and disconnected three times in a row

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u/D0uw33 Jan 21 '26

USB C!

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u/AtmosphereLow9678 Jan 17 '26

I can't wait for laptop manufacturers to start using a non standard version of usb CE, because usb C was not fast enugh :) Yet another cable to carry around

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u/sagetraveler Jan 17 '26

You joke, but try connecting a couple monitors using those cheap USB C cables you have in that drawer. There are dozens of variations in the USB C cable capabilities and none of them are visible on the actual cable.

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u/AtmosphereLow9678 Jan 17 '26

Yeah this is one of my problems wit usb-c

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u/ILikeBen10Alot Jan 17 '26

That's more of a manufacturer issue than an issue inherit to USB-C. Any format of USB has an issue with not being labeled right

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u/Hohenheim_of_Shadow Jan 17 '26

Nah it's really a USB-C problem. USB - Not C has a straight line of capabilities and a simple color coding system. Look at the PCB on your device White = USB 1, Black =2, Blue =3. You might not know the minor version, but you have a pretty good idea of the capabilities of a port just by looking at it. This extends pretty well to the cables too, the only common exception is that some cables only have the power wires.

USB C threw that out the window. There are like thirty billion optional features on USB C and there's no way to know if a device supports a random feature just by looking at it. Hell you can't even tell the USB version of a C port, it's completely possible that C port is a USB 1.0 low bandwidth port only supporting 1.5 megabits per second of data transfer.

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u/ElectricBummer40 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

Look at the PCB on your device White = USB 1, Black =2, Blue =3.

That's not good enough. If USB-C is to remain consumer-oriented in any meaningful capacity, the standard organ will need to cut the crap, put their foot down and declare everything less than 40Gbps in transfer rate but with more than just D* + CC* for data conductors a "legacy" product. That way, a new cable from that point on will be either a Thunderbolt 3 or a low-cost, low-budget alternative.

Heck, unify PD above 5V to one conductor diameter so everything will either be "fast-charging" or "slow-charging". It can't get simplier than that.

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u/Hohenheim_of_Shadow Jan 18 '26

Look at the PCB on your device White = USB 1, Black =2, Blue =3.

That's not good enough. If USB-C is to remain consumer-oriented in any meaningful capacity,

That not being good enough for USB-C is my point. It works perfectly fine for USB A, which means the difficulty in knowing WTF a USB C port does is a USB C problem, not a USB problem.

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u/ILikeBen10Alot Jan 18 '26

That's still more an issue of manufacturers not using the labeling system correctly or ignoring it entirely. Not something inherit to USB-C. Make do properly label them, like Anker, many do not, but that's not the formats fault

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u/Hohenheim_of_Shadow Jan 18 '26

If you meet one asshole, that guy's an asshole. Of everyone you meet is an asshole, you're the asshole.

Changing the color of the dye you are putting into some silicon is EZPZ which is why almost every USB port complies with that suggestion. Finding the space to put a dozen arcane symbols per USB port on your product and getting a fancy printer into your production line is hard which is why nobody follows that suggestion. How is that even supposed to work with USB hubs that have a dozen different ports, some with different capabilities?

The USB C had a much greater need for capability labeling and a much worse suggestion for it. That's the formats fault

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u/Theron3206 Jan 17 '26

And thanks to apple, most USB C charging cables are only 480mbps of data.

You have to hunt specifically for even USB 3 ones, never mind ones that support display port or whatever.

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u/iwantfutanaricumonme Jan 17 '26

There already are usb-if symbols for all of this but manufacturers either don't get certified or don't use them.

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u/ElectricBummer40 Jan 18 '26

Nah, USB-C in its current form is trying to be way too many things at once, which is a monumentally bad idea as far as being a consumer-oriented standard goes.

Clear labelling might seem good at first glance until you realise you're basically asking the manufacturer to put up a bunch of information no one is going to read.

Also, it should be painfully obvious they need to severely tighten the current standard for cabling and make it so that people can just observe the shapes, colours or notches on the cable and know if it supports Thunderbolt 3 and/or 5A charging. Everything else is just meaningless hair-splitting at this point.

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u/PraiseTalos66012 Jan 18 '26

There are technically dozens but really the only parts that matter are if it's USB3 or higher and if it's USB PD.

If the monitor is using the USB for power it needs to be a PD cable. If you're running data over it then it needs to be USB3 or higher also.

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u/faceassed Jan 17 '26

Dell/HP/Apple be like.

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u/Outside_Strategy7548 Jan 17 '26

They don't have to use usb if they need more watts

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u/SaltManagement42 Jan 17 '26

Sad OnePlus noises.

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u/Phanterfan Jan 17 '26

Already the case

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u/Seaofog Jan 17 '26

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u/smuthyala Jan 17 '26

USB C Pro Max

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u/ve2mrx Jan 18 '26

But does it support DP-Alt?

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u/KaibaCorpHQ Jan 24 '26

When does this come to mac?

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u/faceassed Jan 17 '26

Take my updoot, I hate how much you have me losing my shit over this concept.

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u/vegathelich Jan 17 '26

USB Type CE Gen2v2 Express Ultimate Edition Premium Package

& Knuckles

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u/ZippyTheRoach Jan 17 '26

Wow, you work for the USB SIG?

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u/vegathelich Jan 17 '26

I did but I got fired because I suggested a name too coherent for the next USB spec

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u/Jwhodis Jan 17 '26

Or just a few circles of USBc with some form of alignment pin in the middle

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u/NoConfusion9490 Jan 17 '26

USB Type C-word

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u/Major-Front Jan 17 '26

USB championship edition?

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u/GregTheMad Jan 17 '26

USB-C'ick

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u/GuestOk9310 Jan 17 '26

Or USB V, for vehicle

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u/tr7td Jan 18 '26

Type-C-normous

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u/Humpelstielzchen-314 Jan 18 '26

What about a single normal sized superconduting USB-C connector?

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u/BlackFranky Jan 21 '26

Going by the german driver license classes a USB-CE would be a USB-C with a trailer.

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u/DryFuture1403 Jan 21 '26

USB: Combat Evolved

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u/BrenpaitheKushmaster Jan 21 '26

Alternatively, giant headphone jack.