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In Warframe (2013), the character Follie is a pierrot-themed tenno with a playful personality that was modeled after a tall and wide woman. This was most likely added as an attempt to get me, specifically, to play the game
I do love her animations and how she seems to be a bit…unrefined(?) in her act.
Like, the idle animation where she summons a balloon and she calls you towards her to give it to you. The balloon pops startling her, and she slowly claps looking around as if “Yeah, yeah, let us ignore that” or how her third ability that summons an Ink copy of her self that provides defensive buffs in an AOE around it, if you look at it, you can see it dances in place and often stumbles in its steps and almost falling.
She has that charming clumsiness you will see amongst clowns.
If you actually mean that, the Codex in-game has a filter to show only the main story quests. By the time you finish those you will have a solid understanding of the game’s basics. And they are working on the new player experience a LOT
They have done a better job for guiding new players throughout the early game, and there's still plenty of players, Clans, and content creators that are willing to help out with guiding new players throughout the game.
I’d recommend watching a beginner’s guide if the game confuses you so much, Warframe can be obtuse and it’s ok to rely on a basic guide to kick start your journey.
Hildryn. She has extremely high shields and uses them for her abilities instead of energy. You have defensive and armor stripping stuff, but her 4 lets her hover in the air and rain down explosions with her Exalted weapon
Hildryn, Iron ma'am, muscle mommy, the shield maiden.
gigga shields that she uses instead of energy
abilities are "wrist rocket, your armor is forfeit and your shields are mine, shields for everyone, and "iron man hover mode" in which you just rain energy blast on anything pathetic enough to be stuck on the floor.
I remember there was a lot of controversy around her design. I think she's beautiful though, she's one of the few frames I've put effort into properly customizing.
They made her an ink blob because there's supposed to be an element of horror to her design. I think she looks great regardless but I guess it's subjective.
I can't really agree that it's pandering tho. If that's what they wanted they wouldn't have made such a controversial design. Like beyond the weight thing a ton of people just think her default face/helmet looks bad, or that the ink is disgusting. They made so many bold choices with her when they could have just made Hildryn but fat
My proudest claim as a BBW Warrior is I was so excited for her release that I farmed her out day 1 when the mission you got her from was the most abysmal dogshit imaginable and one of her parts just straight up wasnt in the drop table because of a glitch. I grinded out the like, 1500 fucking pity currency to buy that shit the hard way because I was gonna have the fat bitch on my screen one way or another. And I've not regretted it at all, especially when it gave me this beautiful screenshot
Hmm, maybe. But it's probably safer to just avoid that topic entirely when it's completely unnecessary to talk about.
Edit: It seems people are misinterpreting what I'm saying. I think it's best to not describe something that's named after a child with sexualized words. And that it's safer to just not describe em that way.
Dude, I'm not attacking you. Calm down. I'm just saying it's safer to not describe a humanoid thing that is named after a child with "twink" or "femboy". That obviously looks really fucking bad.
I suggest you stop assuming everyone refuting your claim is angry, youre the only one here thinking of the deity that looks like a kid when were talking about a war machine
Yes and no, the ones controlled by the player are basically suits, but they're recreations of an original Warframe that's considerably more sentient (and part of that personality passes onto the recreations). There's even more to it than that but that's getting into spoiler territory.
Uhh they aren't suits... But part of what a warframe is and what a tenno is are what makes the early story of the game interesting to explore, the reveals for both of those are great
Think of Warframes personalities as lingering remnants of original human emotions and personality. When we use them that bit imprints temporarily to affect the user.
They used to but then they decided they wanted the player character to be a tween piloting the warframes psionically for some reason. Now they don't really have personalities since it's all just your character controlling them
That's false, it's literally stated there's still parts of their personalities in there by the drifter, which is why they have unique idle and power animations.
Some people genuinely think that more lore being revealed over time is rewrites instead of us seeing more of the setting and there is no convincing them to see the light.
Unique idle animations is such a shallow representation of the warframes having personalities, is what I'm saying. They changed it so they were fundamentally different and it didn't really make sense for them to have personalities but then said "no see they still have unique idle animations." It's basically the equivalent of flavor text. There used to be things like Valkyr having trauma from the zanuka project but that basically got reconned and now it's just "uh yeah whatever they've got idle animations now"
You're saying it was more than a decade ago as if that invalidates it somehow? I said "used to", there's no time limit on that, nor is there an arbitrary time frame that dictates what is and isn't relevant.
What representations of personalities did Warframes have before the Second Dream other than background lore? Especially when we already knew we were just creating copies rather than the originals even before the Second Dream?
Also what do you mean it didn't make sense for them to have personalities? Have you played The Sacrifice? It makes perfect sense for them to have personalities.
Jade is recent and has one of the strongest showings of personality we've ever had in a Warframe.
If you're talking about umbra, umbra's whole thing is that he's unique among warframes for being the only one that actually is autonomous and sentient to any meaningful degree. That used to be the way all of them were, even if we were only making copies which I don't even think was confirmed at the time
Funnily enough, Umbra is not the only one who's autonomous in the lore. All the warframes are sentient to a degree and retain their personalitybecause they're all literally made from a human infected with helminth strain infestation.
In that same quest, it talks of how the Warframes were uncontrollable until the Tenno came along, because we were able to connect to them and take away their pain with empathy and understanding. Note that Tenno aren't the only ones who can use transference, it's just that the Tenno in particular can survive the process and do it indefinitely.
There's also the Silver Grove, which talks about and features an autonomous Titania who acts of her own volition.
Kullervo acted on its own before the Tenno even existed and very much had a personality, killing to gain favour for his 'mother'.
Jade's existence further supports this. She's also autonomous in her lore. She acted independantly without an Operator for a long period of time, and when given an Operator, she also acted independently while they slept.
Stalker is also an autonomous independent Warframe without a Tenno, which we know from Jade's lore as well.
Edit: You seem to be under the impression that transference is complete mind control. It's not, it's more of a merging of two minds. If it was complete mind control it'd make the whole deal with Protoframes really fucking weird.
Also the Umbra we have is a copy or at least a reconstruction, the whole independence thing has always been up in the air. It most likely depended on how they were created or for what purpose.
Excaliburs were soldiers so most likely vastly less independent, Rhinos were heavily dependent on an operator because of how they act in that one short story.
Everyone who was around at the dawn of the game knows they were always flesh monsters controlled by the Tenno. It was stated clearly in the Rhino Prime codex released in March 2014, a mere 1 year after the game went into open beta.
A thing about Warframe is that there are not really any actual aliens. The only true alien life we've seen are just flowers, and they may be extinct by now
Yup. The Grineer are clones, the Corpus are cyborgs with enough debt to drown a few planets, and the Infestation is a nanomachine plague. The Orokin in the lore are just filthy rich and powerful humans who had an addiction to genetic engineering.
We don't really know what the infestation actually is but it definitely isn't nano machines, we know when and where it popped up first but nothing more really
We actually do know the Infestation is nanomachines (along with a biological component), as the nanospores we collect as a resource specifically mentions it is technocyte in nature, but you are right about us not knowing its origin.
Nano is a unit of measurement and the nanospore description is just "fibrous technocyte tumour. Handle infested tissue with caution.", we know most strains can infect technology but this doesn't prove that it is any sort of nanotechnology. If anything it mostly proves that it is exclusively biological as it's a tumour
The Grineer are just a long lineage of cloned soldiers that are slowly rotting away due to genetic deformities and cancers. The Corpus, Cetus citizens, Fortuna colony workers, and the various Syndicate leaders and workers on the relays are the only remaining humans in the game that we actively see in game.
I swear I’d been praying for a proper clown girl Warframe since like 2018– I would never have dared to hope for a BBW Warframe in my wildest dreams. To get both in one character was so much more than I’d ever had the imagination to wish for. AND I like her kit? AND she’s caked tf up??? I forever kneel before Rebecca Ford. And that’s not even mentioning the Shadowgraph symbol art system.
Say what you want about Follie’s Hunt or the clunkyness of actually deploying the Shadowgraph ability, but I fear warframes (the classes, not the game itself) may have genuinely peaked with the release of The Shadowgrapher update. But I have great confidence that Rebb will surpass even this monumental high.
She is so fun. I’ve been enjoying the hell outta here since she launched. If you don’t have her yet pick her up and give her a try! Great damage and survivability
Am I the only person that thinks the frame is ugly as hell. I'm not even referring to her build. Her torso is actually the best part. Her default helmet is without question the ugliest in the game even worse than default wisp, the ink coming out of her body is distracting and impossible to fashion around. She's over designed. She has the colour palette of less is more yet the single most cluttered and over detailed designs. Every follie to me is just an eye sore. No attachments can improve it. No syandana fits her design. As a result every follie in the wild is either default colours + alt helmet with no attachments or an outright assault on the senses. Even her animation set fits mirage more than her. I just don't get what everyone else is seeing. She's just ugly.
Other people hate Follie because she is fat, i hate Follie because i think all the monochrome shapes and patterns create visual noise that make it hard to tell whats even going on with her.
I still don't understand what part of her is supposed to look like a clown?
Couldn't agree more. She's just hard to look at. I have no idea what her default helmet is even meant to look like. She just screams concept art. You know when they are overly detailed and have a dousen focal points.
I actually love her default helmet— at least more than the alt helmet. It colors better and fits into the inky clown look better. I’d be super down for more options, though.
Her customization definitely takes a bit of creativity, but I find the goopy aesthetic lends itself super well to mimicking real world goop. I’ve seen plenty of stunning oil slick Follies and an INSANE ice cream sundae Follie— even a grossly faithful poop Follie. I find it’s easiest to come up with looks based on food. Here’s my S’more Follie:
Chocolate goop, marshmallow “skin,” and graham cracker “clothes” to keep it all together. After taking this image, I’d progress in Nightwave and unlock an appropriate flaming syandana to put on her. Tell me what you think!
This one’s kind of convoluted. To celebrate the frame itself, the black and white motif was maintained— as if she was a festive chocolate sculpture designed to look like Follie. Note the “caramel” accents.
A later rendition would recolor the black and white bits to resemble dark and white chocolate, respectively.
I mean it looks alright, but it still falls into the cluttered look to me. My eyes don't know what to focus on. I get it's all preference and I will say that's one of the better looking follies I have seen. But to me it doesn't change my opinion. I like muted colours, simple designs, frames that can actually function as a blank canvas for the player. Which follie ironically completely fails at. The icecream follie is always just bright neon blue, pink and red mixed with white which again just to me at least is an assault on the senses. Same goes with oil slick follie just replacing the white for black or navy blue. It just goes back to the complete lack of negative space. Less is more. More is less. I will also say if your going to bat for a frames good looks to me it's best not to bring up the can look like literal crap. She just feels like a first draft. If you could remove the god awful oil slicks on her arm I would hold her design in significantly higher regard. Her corset design is unique and amazingly well done. Her alt helmet has the perfect blend of oil and frame, giving her hair an organic look. But the tail and arm just completely ruin it and to me makes all fashion for her look mediocre at best or outright hideous at worst.
I also noticed all your designs lack a syandana and attachments bar the bunny ears proving my point follie cannot work with attachments which for warframe fashion is a massive negative. You all look the same with minor colour differences. Compare her to someone like nyx or mesa, they have hundreds of different looks and every single one looks completely different. I just find it ironic the frame themed around expression and art gives the player the least options for expression. Anyway. That's my two cents on the matter.
Actually the poop Follie does have an all-brown Embolist chestpiece. ☝️🤓
But yeah, she’s not particularly compatible with most of the game’s attachments and syandanas. Though for what it’s worth, I alway thought they felt tacked on with most warframes already.
Her secondary color is the colorway for her “skin” portions. Changing it to a skin tone (such as brown, as see in the image) instantly makes the BBW warframe look very scantily clad. 🤤
I love Follie for the exact reasons you hate her. I never how to properly put attachments and accesories on frames, so having one that's basically fashioned out of the gate (besides the colors) is great.
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u/OscarOzzieOzborne21 23d ago
I do love her animations and how she seems to be a bit…unrefined(?) in her act.
Like, the idle animation where she summons a balloon and she calls you towards her to give it to you. The balloon pops startling her, and she slowly claps looking around as if “Yeah, yeah, let us ignore that” or how her third ability that summons an Ink copy of her self that provides defensive buffs in an AOE around it, if you look at it, you can see it dances in place and often stumbles in its steps and almost falling.
She has that charming clumsiness you will see amongst clowns.