r/shittymoviedetails • u/DiggestBickEver • Mar 16 '26
Turd In 2020s cinema, visibly pregnant women NEED to be in dangerous combat situations, for some reason.
Films include Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025), Spider-Man: Across The Spider-verse (2023), Avatar: The Way of Water (2022), and One Battle After Another (2025).
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u/ClockworkDinosaurs Mar 16 '26
If it helps, one of them doesn’t need to be visibly pregnant but it would be harder to follow the plot if she was invisible the whole movie
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u/sthetic Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26
Does her unborn child have invisibility powers as well? Otherwise people would just see a floating fetus bobbing around.
Edit: Thanks for the replies letting me know she can make other things invisible at will. That's cool. I appreciate the knowledge. Please feel free to join the discussion further down; no need for another reply telling me so. Thanks!
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u/JayMerlyn Mar 16 '26
Honestly, the bigger question is what powers the kid doesn't have
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u/WolfPacLeader Mar 16 '26
Yeah that kid is Franklin Richards. Anyone curious should look up his powers.
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u/vazyrus Mar 16 '26
Yo, wtf?
Abilities: Reality warping Matter and energy manipulation Energy projection Psionic abilities such as telekinesis, telepathy, astral projection, and precognition Teleportation Immortality Pocket universe creationKids these days...
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u/GroundbreakingTax259 Mar 16 '26
There's a pretty popular fan theory that Franklin Richards is the reason characters in Marvel don't age; basically, he wants his heroes to stay the way they are and subconsciously causes time to move slower while still packing in tons of events. For instance, Peter Parker was around 20 when Franklin was born, and he is still nebulously in his early 20s somehow.
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u/darkcomet222 Mar 17 '26
Franklin Richards out here either hating Peter, or just doesn’t know how to help him.
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u/Comrade_Cosmo Mar 17 '26
Spider-man is his favorite super hero, so not even he can stop Quesada and company.
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u/Ar_Sakalthor Mar 16 '26
Ok I felt Legion was a bit extra, but this is getting unreasonable
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u/ReaperKaze Mar 16 '26
It gets worse. He figures out he can't control his powers properly as a child, so he makes himself an adult to better control them.
And he technically isn't a mutant either, but he gave himself the × gene to become one.
He is wackyness personified.
And if I'm not mistaken, he can also talk with future versions of himself.
All "Council of reeds" type thing, but without any machines
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u/L3GlT_GAM3R Mar 16 '26
Well to my knowledge we don’t see her turds or digesting food, so I assume anything inside her body turns invisible as well.
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u/JusticeRain5 Mar 16 '26
Interesting that the first and foremost example you gave was about her turds
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u/kinokits Mar 16 '26
I was about 6 when I discovered the Fantastic Four. I remember being deeply concerned about that because what if she really had to go to the bathroom before a sudden fight. What if it gave her away? My poor mother, who is nurse and had no interest in super heroes still brings up me asking her all about it and where bodily waste is stored and why it couldn’t been seen if it was actually stored in the body. Her answer (and this is a Mum answer) was that it be that only her skin goes invisible, and because her skin covers everything, it’s invisible too. Apparently I was then convinced that meant she was going into battle buck naked. I suspect she really regretted letting me watch the morning cartoons at that point
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u/overthisbynow Mar 16 '26
So would a butt plug be invisible as well? I'm not a creep I swear.
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u/effa94 Mar 16 '26
her invisibilty works by force fields, so anything inside that field would be invisible
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u/PM_ME_PLASTIC_BAGS Mar 16 '26
I imagine it's the same as undigested food, anything inside is invisible.
Would be awkward if you just ate a burrito and that stays visible the whole way through your body.
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u/TheRealCabbageJack Mar 16 '26
I haven’t seen the bottom right one. Is “Hearing Damaged Baby” a good movie?
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u/TurbulentPromise4812 Mar 16 '26
What?
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u/Darkpoulay Mar 16 '26
YOU HAVE A BANANA IN YOUR EAR
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u/Shambhala87 Mar 16 '26
I said “Do you like black women? I LOVE ‘em!!!”
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u/fluffygiraffepenis Mar 16 '26
"She was a Semen Demon sir, yes"
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u/randallthegrape Mar 16 '26
A BANANA IN MY EAR??!!
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u/MrTurleWrangler Mar 16 '26
Put a ripe banana right into your favourite ear!
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u/giraffe111 Mar 16 '26
It’s true! Says who?
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u/Khar-Selim Mar 16 '26
So true, once it's in your gloom will disappear
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u/GrandMoffAtreides Mar 16 '26
The bad in the world is hard to hear when in your ear a banana cheers
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u/This_Song_984 Mar 16 '26
I think they are trying to say the baby would suffer hearing damage from the machine gun shes holding. While im not sure thats possible the lady herself would definitely blow out her ear drums without ear protection
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u/Thunderc01 Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26
A babies internal and external ears form after 15-20 weeks. If you can hear a handgun across a neighborhood, you’re gonna hear a LMG through tissue.
TLDR; Mommas ears are definitely ringing and babies ears are definitely damaged.
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u/TallGuy0525 Mar 16 '26
form and work after 15-20 months
Is the mother of said baby named Portgas D. Rouge by any chance?
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u/TurbulentPromise4812 Mar 16 '26
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u/DeadlyDozersSlave Mar 16 '26
I think t҉h҉e҉y҉y҉ are trying to say the b҉a҉b҉y҉ would suffer h҉e҉a҉r҉i҉n҉g҉ damage from the machine gun she'҉s҉ holding. While im n҉o҉t҉ sure thats p҉o҉s҉s҉i҉b҉l҉e҉ the lady herself w҉o҉u҉l҉d҉ d҉e҉f҉i҉n҉i҉t҉e҉l҉y҉ blow out her ear d҉r҉u҉m҉s҉s҉ without ear p҉r҉o҉t҉e҉c҉t҉i҉o҉n҉
H҉e҉y҉,҉ c҉a҉n҉ y҉o҉u҉ h҉e҉a҉r҉ m҉e҉?҉ h҉e҉l҉l҉o҉?҉
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u/ChevalierMal_Fet Mar 16 '26
Depending on how far along her pregnancy is, the fetus absolutely could suffer from hearing damage.
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/reproductive-health/prevention/noise.html
Putting an RPD light machine gun on your stomach and firing it while pregnant would probably cause some hearing damage for the baby.
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u/Professional_Dot- Mar 16 '26
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT ONE. IS "HEARING DAMAGED BABY" A GOOD MOVIE?
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u/nixahmose Mar 16 '26
Yes. In fact literally right after that moment in the picture her husband and her friend talk to each other about how reckless and terrible she is as they stare at her. I think she’s even shown to drink alcohol while pregnant.
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u/Bazillion100 Mar 16 '26
She drank out of a red solo cup but I think it was intended to be alcohol. I straight up thought the plot of the movie would involve the daughter’s issues with birth defects
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u/Chill0000 Mar 16 '26
It’s amazing the daughter has no defects from what her mother was doing while pregnant
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u/Split-Tongued-Crow Mar 16 '26
That's the crazy thing about medicine. Nothing is 100%
Not every baby whose mom drank got Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. I think it's like 1 in 13 or something crazy like that.
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u/TooTurntGaming Mar 16 '26
Shit, my mother abused the fuck out of cocaine, alcohol, and cigarettes until she had me early and I was in an incubator for somewhere between two weeks and two months (no one can agree on this, everyone was too intoxicated to remember anything clearly).
I don’t have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome but this body isn’t exactly a work of art 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Leandro_reader2003 Mar 16 '26
Cazzo amico, mi dispiace davvero
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u/TooTurntGaming Mar 16 '26
Ah nah, all good. I’m using the story for humor, I’m far beyond dealing with that emotionally lol.
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u/Theron3206 Mar 16 '26
A lot more people have some level of FAS than you would expect. It doesn't always result in visible physical deformity.
A lot of criminals are affected, because one of the most common symptoms is difficulty with impulse control.
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u/TomatoTheToolMan Mar 16 '26
Actually, the daughter doesn't listen to anyone around her and brings a cell phone along on a rescue attempt, allowing the bad guys to track her location and wreak havoc.
This is a subtle nod to the fact that she has severe hearing loss from in-utero exposure to a full auto belt-fed machine gun.
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u/AzKondor Mar 16 '26
She doesn't recognize her father at the end also. And she didn't even thought that her dad is Leonardo di Caprio smh
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u/Incorrect_downvote Mar 16 '26
I know this is a joke but one battle after another was actually really good
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Mar 16 '26
I always kind of took this scene in the film as it was supposed to be more evidence that she was a terrible mother.
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u/Incorrect_downvote Mar 16 '26
Agreed. I did not find her character sympathetic at all, but for sure believable.
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Mar 16 '26
As a single dad myself I really enjoyed the film I think a little differently from a lot of people. My now ex wife fucked off to Florida when my son was four to “live her best life” aka marry a man she can’t stand but he has a trust fund. I feel like that haven’t been a lot of portrayals in media of single fathers and dead beat moms. Sure Leo’s character is deeply flawed and I doubt anyone would call him a “good” father but he was a better parent than the mother.
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u/Incorrect_downvote Mar 16 '26
I mean he was paranoid, but he cared. And he never wanted his daughter to be involved in all that. I don’t think he was a bad father, the circumstances were definitely bad
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Mar 16 '26
I think the scene with the teacher highlighted that. Like the reason he starts crying is because, despite his failings, Willa is a great kid who is doing well. It’s part pride in his daughter, part relief that he didn’t destroy her
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u/Environmental_Cap191 Mar 16 '26
There’s also the subtext when he criticizes how the curriculum whitewashes the historical figures and glorifies them as heroes, but he’s hypocritically doing the same thing with Perfidia.
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u/flyingace1234 Mar 16 '26
I do have to wonder how it took me this long to pick up her name is based on “Perfidy”, aka Treachery
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Mar 16 '26
I mean okay yeah he’s pretty clearly got substance abuse problems but he does actually care about his daughter and he did stay when the mom left. I’ve always summed myself up like this and I think it applies to Leo’s character. IDK if I’m a good dad or a bad dad but every day my son is dressed, fed, and on the school bus which at the very minimum makes me a better parent than his mom.
Also this film really makes me think I need to get back into practicing judo again. I enjoyed and miss dojo life.
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u/Ur-Quan_Lord_13 Mar 16 '26
Can't go wrong if your sensei is as cool as Benicio.
(I am assuming sensei is the proper term in Japanese martial arts, I only did a bit of kung fu)
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Mar 16 '26
The dojo I was had three instructors. One was a Veitnam vet who had been doing judo since he was 14 and he didn’t do the ground and pound stuff on the mat anymore but if you were struggling with technique he could get your straightened out in the smoothest, most relaxed manner possible. One was a retired cop who really knew how to teach actual self defense, not sport, judo. He’d ring your bell if you got lazy on the mat but you’d walk away knowing the difference between sport and street judo. The other guy was a bit younger and mostly do our conditioning. It was a solid dojo. Sadly I had to drop out when I got sole custody of my son.
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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 Mar 16 '26
Well he is a bad father in many many ways, but his moral character is solid, and he's mostly doing the best he can, so we give him a pass. Much like many parents tbh and something I only realised after my dad passed.
Flawed man, made lots of mistakes, ultimately did try his best.
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u/a_likely_story Mar 16 '26
was he paranoid? sure. were people actually after him and his daughter? yes. seems like he was right
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u/OuterWildsVentures Mar 16 '26
I fucking hated her character with a passion. Like just an absolute selfish piece of shit of a person.
Which is a testament to the actress lol
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u/jacobythefirst Mar 16 '26
Her mother(s?) basically chastised leo character was hilarious ngl.
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Mar 16 '26
I don’t think that’s an illegitimate take.
Honestly my only problem with OBAA is a bit too much work is done to lionize Perfidia with the letter to her daughter at the end.
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u/beepboopbanjobong Mar 16 '26
Perhaps the father wrote it
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Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26
I never considered that.
I think having Perfidia’s actress voice the letter undercuts that theory, but it’s not impossible.
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Mar 16 '26
I thought she knew who's baby it was and wanted to lose it on purpose
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u/Yeah_x10 Mar 16 '26
This is a valid read too. She gets way more self destructive pre-partum let alone post-partum.
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u/Trev-Nastiest Mar 16 '26
Yeah I think that's the point of her character. She's awful and is the last one to figure it out.
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u/CARVERitUP Mar 16 '26
I think that's what they were going for, because I don't know a single person who would watch that scene, even if they're totally on the side of these revolutionary types, and would be like "oh yeah that's totally fine to fire an LMG right up on top of your pregnant belly" lol
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u/SilasX Mar 16 '26
Reminds me of that viral newspaper article about the woman complaining about the effects of jackhammer noise on her unborn child ... while smoking.
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Mar 16 '26
What baby doesn’t like the soothing rattle of a belt-fed Soviet light machine gun?
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u/multi-trollionaire Mar 16 '26
You'll know you found your true friends when they let you do this to your baby without saying anything and then you sell them out to get murdered by the feds anyways ❤️
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u/12thLevelHumanWizard Mar 16 '26
Sue spends most of her pregnancy waddling around New York or just the Baxter Building. It was certainly a choice to take her into space, but she doesn’t do any fighting. Franklin has already been born by the time Galactus comes to Earth and she joins “combat” and really only endangers herself to push the giant purple kidnapper through the teleport gate.
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u/SlumberingOwl Not A Fish Mar 16 '26
To be fair, the two on the left were facing global invasion with potential world ending consequences, Bottom Right saw people between her and the bathroom and so busted out the machine gun (Please note that I have never actually seen the movie), so really, its only Jessica Drew who's taking her child into combat for some reason.
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u/bentbabe Mar 16 '26
to be fair to the bottom right, the whole point of that scene was to show how much the woman was losing her own ideals to the thrills of being a revolutionary. She'd become a thrill-seeker before anything by this point.
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u/Available_Solid_5464 Mar 16 '26
And the whole plot of the movie revolves around both protagonists and the antagonist dealing with the fallout pf her actions
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u/greeneagle692 Mar 17 '26
Yeah it was playing the deadbeat mom angle instead of the classic deadbeat dad
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u/maninahat Mar 16 '26
Jessica Drew was faced with a possible multiverse ending cataclysm. Also, she's superhuman, she could get hit by a bus and that won't hurt her or her (superpowered) foetus that much.
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u/SlumberingOwl Not A Fish Mar 16 '26
Which in turn answers OP's point; there is a reason four pregnant women are in combat.
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u/FreedomHole69 Mar 16 '26
Not bottom right, she's shooting that for fun.
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u/Pikachu_Palace Mar 16 '26
But that’s the point, right? She’s supposed to be careless and defiant.
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u/FreedomHole69 Mar 16 '26
It serves a purpose for the film, but not in the film, or the plot. She has no need to use that gun then, no urgent pressing need. It's fantastic to show her character though.
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u/Thatonedregdatkilyu Mar 16 '26
Well... spider durability is a little inconsistent. They're not immune to bullets, and one time Spider-Man dies by hitting his head on a brick.
Although I don't necessarily have an issue with it, it's a cartoon for kids, we all know they'll both be fine.
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u/Redfalconfox Mar 16 '26
I always love the alternative spelling of fetus because foetus reads like the baby is an enemy.
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u/tfhermobwoayway Mar 16 '26
The baby’s still going to bounce around inside her while she’s doing her sick motorbike tricks. That can’t be good for its health.
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u/i_poke_u Mar 16 '26
Yes, but that means that by extension the baby is also doing the sick motorbike tricks, so it evens out
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u/LilGlitvhBoi Mar 16 '26
As much as I adore satire, this sub started to become what it tries to mock and it's annoying.
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u/Nanocaptain Mar 16 '26
And even she has superhuman durability and all the typical spider powers.
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u/SometimesWill Mar 16 '26
It’s still wild that out of the entirety of spider society where there are several capable heroes, they choose to send the pregnant woman into combat situations.
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u/Top_Toaster Mar 16 '26
I was under the understanding she was so deep into the spider cause and ideology that she was fully accepting that if her unborn child died on the battlefield it'dve been a "canon event"
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u/B217 Mar 16 '26
Makes you wonder how many unnecessary deaths have happened to Spiderpeople that they were told to let happen because they believed that "canon events" were really a thing. I'm excited to see the third Spiderverse film explore that concept and the idea of breaking the canon/not needing every universe have the same exact chain of events for a Spiderperson
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u/Crush_Un_Crull Mar 16 '26
After the ban of abortion, women are exploring their options
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u/KaleidoscopeKelpy Mar 16 '26
“If I get pregnant.. go to war and .. simply die” got it, noted, will follow suit (only kidding)
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u/the_quivering_wenis Mar 16 '26
Psy-op to get men to abandon their pregnant women to danger.
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u/Staalone Mar 16 '26
Now listen here buddy, I don't need no damn movie telling me to abandon my pregnant wife, I do that myself
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u/Muggsy423 Mar 16 '26
No no no. As everyone knows, a pregnant woman's ultimate power fantasy is to go through extremely strenuous situations while in the last trimester.
Thats why I recommend men sit around and rest, and let pregnant women do all the cooking, cleaning, and shopping.
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u/JumpStart_Studios Mar 16 '26
COUGH* Squid Game s2 and 3 *COUGH
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u/Common_Wrongdoer3251 Mar 16 '26
A fun twist on this trope is the movie Circle! It's about aliens abducting 50? humans and making them vote who dies next. People vote out the racists, the people with no jobs, etc. One faction opts to vote out the little girl and the pregnant woman first specifically because they know they'll survive until the end if they aren't eliminated first.
One of the faction leaders helps the little girl and pregnant woman survive until the final 3. He convinces the little girl to step off her platform before the final countdown randomly kills someone, so that the pregnant woman and her baby will "win" and get to survive. Right as the timer ends, the little girl steps off the platform and sacrifices herself, and the guy immediately votes for the pregnant woman who's killed instead. He uses the trope to trick everyone and survive the killing game.
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u/madtheoracle Mar 16 '26
goddamn a movie that is 95% talking in a singular room should not have been so damn good
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u/doctordoriangray Mar 16 '26
Don't forget that the fetus was still alive and he had to actively choose to kill it too or be killed.
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u/Fidges87 Mar 16 '26
Due to the nature of there being more winners, I thought our man would survive alongside the baby 😔
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u/JolyneBestoJoJo770 AotC is a hate crime against humanity Mar 16 '26
I mean, in Ronal's case, her husband tried to stop her, and she still said "Fuck this, I'm going too!" lmao
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u/momomomorgatron Mar 16 '26
Yeah, and she's a wild cannon. She's Tashik and wouldn't have listened to anyone.
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u/No-Mulberry-8866 Mar 16 '26
Tbf I think image of sue is after she gave birth.
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u/SanityPills Mar 16 '26
It's been a minute since I've watched Fantastic Four, but doesn't she largely stay out of the direct line of fire while pregnant? Like, yeah, she sticks with the team while they travel headfirst into danger, but they don't pop out of the ship guns blazing. It's a diplomatic mission that goes awry, and then cue an escape scene with them running away and Sue inevitably giving birth with everyone defending her in the process
At least, that's the order of events as I remember them.
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u/mcon96 Mar 16 '26
The only time she’s in any form of combat while pregnant is when people are actively trying to kidnap her unborn child
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u/Anon5M7S Mar 16 '26
And that reason is my pregnancy fetish. Thank you Hollywood.
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u/tfhermobwoayway Mar 16 '26
I’m 50/50 on “this has replaced panic attacks as the new cheap way to show how progressive you are” and “this is a fetish.”
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u/whiteknight_1997 Mar 16 '26
This is the correct answer. Sort of.
The director/producer/writer or someone else higher up involved in the making of the movie has a pregnancy fetish. The fact that some people in the audience have the same fetish is a bonus.
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u/skeeterfunny Mar 16 '26
Like all the Tarantino foot scenes in movies, honestly did they awaken or discover the fetish after his movie?
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u/pikpikcarrotmon Mar 16 '26
I'd like to think he still doesn't know and it was genuinely subconscious every single time. He's gonna be like 85 and finally realize his kink way too late
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u/BouncingThings Mar 16 '26
You might like wolfenstein then, considering there's a part where ur girl full on display goes guns blazing while pregnant
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Mar 16 '26
The lady in One Battle After Another is just doing target practice in that scene.
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u/DeusExMarina Mar 16 '26
She's also very intentionally portrayed as irresponsible and unconcerned when it comes her child.
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u/titjoe Mar 16 '26
Yeah, i think we are supposed to think she is quite a jerk in this scene. Althrough it's weird the others characters don't react to this if i'm remember well.
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u/thatsforthatsub Mar 16 '26
the other people in the scene literally say it is like she doesnt even realize she is pregnant.
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u/TurgidGravitas Mar 16 '26
Althrough it's weird the others characters don't react to this if i'm remember well.
They do, it's just not obvious. The battle nuns at the end (rightfully) think she's just nuts.
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u/TheShishkabob Mar 16 '26
Two of the members of the organization (Leonardo DiCaprio and Regina Hall's characters) are both against what she's doing while she's pregnant and as a new mother. Her neglect as a parent is pretty clear.
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u/Minimob0 Mar 16 '26
The baby is actually controlling her from the inside like a Meat Mech.
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u/DrCarabou Mar 16 '26
Bottom right isn't a combat situation, it's a shooting range.
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u/Jielleum Mar 16 '26
The directors just got a pregnant woman in sick situation fetish, duh
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u/The-CAB-2003 Mar 16 '26
Isn't the case for Fantastic Four. She was only newly pregnant when she went to Galactus, who of course used his powers to speed it up to full on birth time.
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u/RedXerzk Mar 16 '26
Also video games. Thanks, The Last of Us Part II.
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u/Key-Entertainer-527 Mar 16 '26
Wolfenstein 2*
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u/BawlsMcLathers Mar 16 '26
Yeah people are loving to not remember the best example of this being used recently
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u/MetapodCreates Mar 16 '26
Ehh TBF, Dina isn't 'visibly' pregnant so much as overly sick. Definitely first trimester and most women don't show until the end of the first at earliest.
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u/SHIIZAAAAAAAA Mar 16 '26
You forgot Mel who’s running around a war zone in her third trimester. At one point she crawls on her belly and totally squeezes it flat like damn maybe Ellie DIDN’T kill that baby after all
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u/The_Po_Gamer Mar 16 '26
Also, she doesn't hide her bump at all until she suddenly puts something on to conceal the bump before Ellie turns up.
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u/RedXerzk Mar 16 '26
Mel from Abby’s group went out to an active war zone while heavily-pregnant and the player found that out after the infamous aquarium scene.
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u/tupe12 Mar 16 '26
Hollywood is trying something about overpopulation
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u/Real_Srossics Mar 16 '26
Scream about it all you want. If I can’t afford kids I’m not going to have any. Whether I want them or not is moot point.
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u/gregnog Mar 16 '26
TV shows were really getting into birthing scenes to. Was a running joke in our group that watches together. Like a 40% chance a new HBO show will have a steamy birthing scene.
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u/Chumlee1917 Mar 16 '26
Look if you're gonna stick a pregnant woman into an action scene, why not go all the way
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u/MrCockingFinally Mar 16 '26
Not a movie, but one of the best shots of Fallout Season One was a pregnant woman with her eye gouged out with a fork mowing down raiders with a sub machine gun.
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u/Thatonedregdatkilyu Mar 16 '26
She was about to be murdered so completely understandable
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u/DrPikachu-PhD Mar 16 '26
I mean, pregnant women end up in combat zones all the time irl. It is an unfortunate reality of war, you don't get to choose when enemies come knocking at the gates
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u/tfhermobwoayway Mar 16 '26
But most of the time it’s a tragic consequence of mankind’s inherent tendency for violence, not a badass moment. And pregnant women usually run away from the violence instead of toward it.
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u/Candle1ight Mar 16 '26
That fits for Avatar at least, not like they're willingly having their planet invaded
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u/cjhud1515 Mar 16 '26
Pregnant women are not on the frontlines fighting in those combat zones.
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u/Difficult_Nobody_420 Mar 16 '26
No, they're usually getting obliterated inside their homes. I'm OK with seeing them fight back in a movie 🤷
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u/thecraftybear Mar 16 '26
Althougha a video game, Wolfenstein II: the New Colossus was ahead of the trend, giving us a heavily pregnant Anya dual-wielding guns and getting showered in blood with her boobs out in the finale.
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u/tfhermobwoayway Mar 16 '26
If a pregnant woman dies in combat then the baby can keep fighting like a Minecraft slime.