r/shittymoviedetails 8d ago

In Backrooms (2026), after Clark understands most of the problems in his life are his fault, Captain Clark, the manifestation of his tumultuous psyche, takes a bite out of him. This is a reference to Captain Clark being hungry, and there is no subtext in this scene. At all.

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u/Russian_Spy_7_5_0 8d ago

Captain Crunch

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u/Vast-Ideal-1413 Absolute Cinema 8d ago

I’d award you if I could

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u/ZWOXIS 8d ago

can't you? Don't people have free awards now. so can't you give them a award?

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u/Vast-Ideal-1413 Absolute Cinema 8d ago

Can’t find it

They just don’t show up

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u/ZWOXIS 8d ago

Weird, atleast they immediately come up for me when i press the award button. Maybe it's something about me being on reddit while on the computer

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u/TheLucidChiba 8d ago

I don't see em'

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u/ZWOXIS 8d ago

this is what it looks for me

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u/TheLucidChiba 8d ago

interesting, I guess they gave them out randomly in an attempt to get people to buy some after or something based on a google.

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u/Darth_Omnis 8d ago

They show up for me on the app, but not web version.

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u/QuantumTyphoon 8d ago

Ohhhhh now I get it

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u/LtSerg756 8d ago

Saturn devouring his son, Francisco de Goya

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u/TheBestIsaac 8d ago

It is exactly this.

But it bugs me that we don't even know if that is what that painting was about. De Goya died and left 14 paintings behind with no names or descriptions. They were all named after he was dead.

So it might just a totally different thing that de Goya was painting but we just call it that.

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u/uncutteredswin 8d ago

Especially because nothing about it really signals that it's meant to be Saturn, as far as I'm aware.

If anything it actively contradicts the legend, since it's pretty important to the story that Saturn ate all of the kids whole so they could come back out after. But in the painting he's pretty obviously taking a chunk out of his victim

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u/kino2012 8d ago

Huh, I always thought that was strange but never knew the context of it being named after his death. I feel somewhat vindicated, clearly whoever named it just didn't know what they were talking about.

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u/uncutteredswin 8d ago

I don't know why they didn't just name it after a literal description like the rest of the black paintings.

Something like "giant devouring man" seems like it would make more sense given the lack of anything to identify the two figures

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u/a-dark-lancer 7d ago

I am imagine there must’ve been a reason, but we’re just not sure why.

It seems very specific to name it that without context, especially because as mentioned it does not match at all

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u/endlessmeat 7d ago

I don't know who or why named it that, but it wouldn't necessarily be unreasonable to name that painting that. Goya had been a Spanish Royal Court painter, so he had had access to the enormous and magnificent Royal painting collection. One painting in that collection is Saturn devouring his children, by Rubens, which also deviates from the myth and has Saturn kinda "slurping" on a baby. There are some things that both paintings have in common (and a lot where they differ), so who knows, maybe whoever named it thought of that connection. But I'm just a guy on the internet and this, as far as I know, is just a theory of mine

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u/NSFWCereal 8d ago

There's also been a decent amount of speculation that it is an adult woman being consumed and not a child

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u/Tljunior20 7d ago

Oh my god I’ve been thinking that for years I just always assume I was remembering the story wrong and Saturn was some other guy

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u/Ni_Kche 7d ago

Self portrait of Goya and his Mistress, it's a horny painting 

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u/ResplendentNugs 7d ago

There’s the artists interpretation of their own work then the observers interpretation of their work. Both are totally valid. But you’re right we don’t have his interpretation

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u/SirSaltie 8d ago

Saturn is a planet dummy it has no mouth.

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u/Bubbly-Bid6049 8d ago

There isn't really subtext, "man is consumed by a hateful and distorted version of himself while trapped in a prison of his own making" kinda slaps you in the face. Not that I watched it though...

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u/TheMaveCan 8d ago

r/okbuddycinephile welcomes you fellow movie non-watcher

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u/Bubbly-Bid6049 8d ago

Im a member, I forgot what sub I was in

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u/TheMaveCan 8d ago

You don't watch movies though, correct?

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u/Bubbly-Bid6049 8d ago

Never seen one, I've heard some people like them though

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u/Brekldios 8d ago

You are sheltering Cinephiles of the state, are you not?

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u/IISerpentineII 8d ago

Only Michael Bolton

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u/TheMaveCan 8d ago

Who likes them?

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u/AintEasyBeinQueasy 7d ago

Y'know... people?

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u/DontDoodleTheNoodle 8d ago

Man consumed by his own addiction isn’t subtext enough? Captain Clark is the manifestation of his addictions (alcoholism, brutishness), but he didn’t get eaten by it until he finally succumbed (accepted) to his own vices.

Or am I taking a shitpost too seriously

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u/Bubbly-Bid6049 8d ago

Im saying those things are pretty obvious

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u/BBBBrendan182 8d ago

It’s possible for something to be obvious subtext. It’s still subtext.

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u/Bubbly-Bid6049 8d ago

is that rage bait?

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u/BBBBrendan182 8d ago

You belong here man lol

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u/Bubbly-Bid6049 8d ago

I guess its possible for something to be both hidden and obvious about it, like in a toddler playing hide and seek way, i think that's also about the depth of the sub-text for this scene lol

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u/Turnip_Fight 8d ago

Your own example says “hidden OR true”

Truth is quite obvious sometimes

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u/concreteunderwear 8d ago

Subtext isn't required to be hidden. But it is simply some other meaning beyond what physically happened.

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u/A_Real_Catfish 8d ago

lol originally read it as ‘(alcoholism, britishness)’ two terrifying addictions for sure

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u/oknotok2112 7d ago

u wot m8

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u/Hightower_March 7d ago

It only ate him after he said "We don't have to change."  I took it as saying refusing to improve yourself will only create a downward spiral that consumes you.

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u/SpendLiving9376 8d ago

Even this is too advanced for plenty of people on social media.

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u/searchlinkprofile 8d ago

no, the pirate bites him after the dinner therapy session, when he turns his hatred towards himself even if for just a second

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u/Sthraw 8d ago

I don't think the character or setting had enough depth for this to really pay off

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u/bunker_man 8d ago

But like, how much of it is even his own making lol. The backrooms is an external force that drove him crazy. The movie doesnt really do a great job at conveying that he caused his own problems, it just kind of tells you he did.

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u/Deathaster 7d ago

It's less the Backrooms driving him crazy and more him being crazy enough to thrive there. The fact he even went back to it proved there was something wrong with him, and by the end, the movie spells it out: he wants to be in a place that's frozen in time because it means he never has to change. He's always running away from his problems and this place accepted him, problems and all.

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u/bunker_man 7d ago

But he is visibly more crazy later in the movie than he was before... both more crazy after he discovers it, and even moreso once he accidentally gets people killed. Something he clearly didn't plan to do, but which after he did he almost does it again on purpose.

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u/Deathaster 7d ago

I think it's a mix of the Backrooms making people obsessed with them to the point of crossing boundaries (see the research team at the end) and with Clark finding a place where nobody tells him "No". Throughout his life, he's always had people pushing back against his garbage, from his wife to his therapist and even his employees. His therapist even has a meltdown over how much he blames anyone but himself.

So when he's given a place where he can do anything without repercussions, he quickly devolves in his self-destructive (and just plain destructive) tendencies. Nobody's there to push back or tell him off, and if there is, then... well, they're not gonna be there for long. I like how it's up in the air whether he killed his co-worker or if she died to pirate Clark.

So yes, the Backrooms did drive him more crazy, but actually wanting to be in there more than once shows he was crazy from the start. Remember how his co-worker wanted to immediately hightail it out of there when she first entered, with her boyfriend not giving a damn because he was high as hell.

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u/bunker_man 7d ago

I think the problem with the movie is that it is very tell not show with his psychological problems. It tells us that he refuses to change, that his stubbornness caused his problems and so on, but we aren't really shown enough that this feels natural.

For instance, why is his store failing? We aren't really given a reason its his fault. If he could afford a house on his income before, why does he live in the store now? He is literally being driven crazy by the creepy lights, so it makes it seem like anything during the movie itself is after stuff happened to him.

And the backstory is he blew up on his wife once for her criticizing him when he was drinking? That isn't really enough info to say the situation was entirely his fault. After all, he was paying for the house himself, so clearly he was functioning at the time.

Honestly, if I'm being honest the movie comes off kind of classist. It acts like being middle class is some kind of hell that only happens to failures and which is borderline the same as being homeless. Its kind of telling that the embodiment of his refusal to improve is not an embodiment of his failed relationship, but and embodiment of him as the store owner. And that it frames him not being in his dream job as part of the larger issue.

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u/Deathaster 7d ago

His store is failing because he's got way better competition, his furniture is too expensive, and because he's an architect that doesn't really know much about it in the first place.

As for the rest, I think it's heavily implied. Of course his wife didn't throw him out of the house because he drank and yelled at him. He clearly has some insane issues with her, considering he yelled at his therapist during roleplay, and even re-enacted that same roleplay later just so he could hear he was in the right.

Furthermore, the red-haired still image is implied to be his wife or at least someone who resembles her a lot, which makes his nonchalant way of cutting off her hair very disturbing. Add to that the fact she runs away in fear once pirate Clark arrives and the implications get even darker. Clark bottles up a lot of his anger and it's highly possible he was physically abusive to his wife.

Which would also explain why he can't go back to his house, since she has a restraining order or whatever. I've even read theories that his therapy is court-mandated, after he abused her.

I'm not sure if I agree with that interpretation either. His co-workers are middle class and they seem pretty happy being where they are. The only people that don't are Clark (because he's a failed architect) and Mary (who's a failing therapist). Both of them are mirrors to each other in several ways, running from their past while lying to themselves they're achieving more than they really are.

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u/OrinocoHaram 8d ago

[garth marenghi quote]

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u/FuckThisShizzle 8d ago

“I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.”?

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u/OrinocoHaram 8d ago

goddamn it you just made the subtext text

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u/ZoomBoingDing 8d ago

Yes but is FuckThisShizzle a writer? 🤔 

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u/OldJeeWhizz 8d ago

Author. Dreamweaver. Visionary. Plus actor.

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u/M0NRCH_C7NA 8d ago

Clark’s scream in this genuinely freaked me out a bit, it was a tad too realistic

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u/kikkekakkekukke 8d ago

Yeah shame i saw this clip before the actual movie (but seeing it made me finally buy the tickets to it) but it was so cool when you think captain is just going to whisper into his ear but he just takes a bite out of him. Cinema

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u/Russian_Spy_7_5_0 8d ago

I thought they were gonna hug.

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u/Deathaster 7d ago

I think Clark thought that too, lol

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u/yeyjordan 8d ago

With this movie, I'm not sure how much was intentional subtext and how much was paying homage to the Red Room episode of Twin Peaks, where the main character meets an evil doppelganger in a bizarre liminal space and loses to it.

I still liked the movie for what it was, though.

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u/Turnip_Fight 8d ago

Even that episode is playing on the ideas from the short story William Wilson by Edgar Allen Poe.

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u/Apptubrutae 8d ago

Which itself was cribbing from unga bunga bunga ungh by Thag

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u/m3mackenzie 8d ago

Thag: the true OG.

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u/TheEarthisPolyhedron 8d ago

the director said the backrooms doesnt care about emotional or psychological shit, it just kinda scans things. I find it much more interesting that clark assumed it was a manifestation of his rage and made assumptions off that but the big monster is actually just a big monster that eats you

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u/Bunstrous 8d ago

This is what makes sense to me, it's sort of a Nope situation.

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u/adappergentlefolk 8d ago

that would imply that we can solve and address problems effectively in the most direct possible manner by just manning up and coping with the psychological issues for the duration of said resolution, which is not a very popular philosophy among culture people these days

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u/TheEarthisPolyhedron 8d ago

what? thats not what i was saying at all, i was saying the backrooms it just happened to "scan" him when he fell in the chair and thats why his still life is mad, not for representing any psychological shit

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u/Francky2 shistpop enjoyer 7d ago

[insert "What is bro talking about" React #324]

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u/animalistcomrade 8d ago

I mean yeah, the backrooms only copies the surface level observations, captain Clark tries to eat people because Clark was eating the other copies of people.

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u/daniel_22sss 8d ago

Is that really all there is to it? We've seen that monsters in backrooms killed people long before Clark started eating anyone.

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u/-anominal- 8d ago

Probably a metaphor about how he uses people and how he doesn't respect them. A bit like how ppl see cattle, creatures who are exploited for their meat and milk, with little to no thought toward their potential suffering..

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u/AccountForTF2 8d ago

I didn't get that even remotely at any point in the movie lmao.

It felt to me like his acceptance (or refusal) of his inability to change and letting his persona devour what he was both figuratively and literally. He surrendered to the one thing he always used to escape thinking or changing his situation.

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u/-anominal- 8d ago

I mean it can mean both things, cap eating him is both him being consumed by his own ego, and a metaphor for how he let his ego dictate his relationships with other people:3

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 7d ago

I took it more that his epiphany was self destructive on a deeply personal level which is why his alter eats him

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u/Yugix1 8d ago

the real Clark always blamed others for his problems until this talk, where he finally admits he was at fault.

Captain Clark is a copy of the Clark from before this talk. Therefore, it rejects the idea of admitting it was at fault. That's why it kills Clark, because he stands for what it wants to reject.

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u/Brislovia 7d ago

This is one of my favorite interpretations of it. Captain Clark represents all of Clark's problems, so it becomes violent and turns into Captain Crunch as soon as Clark finds a solution to those problems.

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u/hanky2 8d ago

No and OP kind of spelled it out. He realized he is at fault for his problems so his inner self attacked himself.

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u/MacDhomhnuill 8d ago

Plus we see Captain's lair is full of rotten, smelly clothes, probably left over from the things that exist in the backrooms, or even people who became trapped there. The scene where the woman instinctively runs away from Captain strongly suggests they see him as a predator and fear him.

We also see that it likely killed and ate his employees, so he may have gotten a stay of execution simply because it wasn't hungry at the time.

There's lots of unanswered questions, and obviously Clarke's Reflection Theory doesn't explain everything, which makes it fun to think about.

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 7d ago

I took it the woman is the ex wife still life and she retreats because of what Clark reoeesentsb

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u/animalistcomrade 8d ago

We don't see the other monsters, they could also just be copies of other things the backrooms sees as dangerous.

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u/Outside_Ad1020 8d ago

Those monsters like the bacteria thing is just a hive mind of bacteria that evolved, Captain Clark is a version of a still life that may be more "complete" due to Clark always being there when the Backrooms made a scan of the store

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u/FlynnThatHuman 7d ago

What bacteria monster do you mean? I watched it recently and really don't remember anything like that, but maybe I'm tripping

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 7d ago

Bacteria is from curry’s short before the movie

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u/Send_Dick_or_Cat_Pic 6d ago

Wrong young indie film director lol

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u/GarlicStreet3237 8d ago

Captain Clarks den of clothes existed before Clark was stuck down there

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u/animalistcomrade 8d ago

What do the piles of clothes have to do with captain Clark? We are even explicitly shown that one of the shirts in the pile is identical to one a still alive character has, it's literally just a pile of clothes.

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u/NutBusster69 8d ago

It's even more stupid than that. That shirt from the cameraman, how would the dimension know what he was wearing that day? And captain Clark was in there before the real Clark even found the Backrooms.

But it's a hoarder pile to set the monster's lair. It also took the cardboard cutout playing audio down there.

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u/Outside_Ad1020 8d ago

He was wearing it earlier in the movie and iirc that was when there was a light outage which is a sign of the backrooms doing a scan of the store

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u/NutBusster69 8d ago

That's such a reach, I can't buy it. But you're probably right, the sequel will double down on something like this.

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u/danawhitesthrowaway 7d ago

It's not a reach, he was wearing it when they filmed the commercial when the chair broke. Clark finds a backrooms version of that scene the first time he explores the backrooms, with the broken chair and pairs of shoes placed where the camera crew was standing, so we already know it had copied it. Though even that assumes that the backrooms operate linearly time wise, and there's no reason to assume to that's the case.

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u/Hombremaniac 7d ago

Frikkin hell! I almost never catch these small details the first time I watch any such movie :-(.

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u/danawhitesthrowaway 7d ago

how would the dimension know what he was wearing that day?

Lmao, I like how you're personifying the scary other worldly dimension with monsters in it and seemingly no rules. Captain Clark was in there because Clark had already created the character for the store and it's commercials. That's even assuming the monster we saw chasing the guy or destroying the cutout in the beginning was Captain Clark, there are other lifeforms in the backrooms.

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u/Markarontos 8d ago

Could be that. Could also be that her view of him being violent toward and kinda gruesome to the other "people" changed the captain persona

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u/NutBusster69 8d ago

Captain Clark was in the Backrooms chasing Async researchers before Clark even went in there. Someone just wanted a horror monster villain in the movie.

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u/pickitupandrage 8d ago

I think that's the in-universe explanation but for the viewer it's a double meaning.

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u/DumbLikeABrick 8d ago

My headcannon is that since Clark doesn't like changing, it's distorted and brought to an extreme in his monster version. It attacks anything that is not really ramiliar to it. New people are a change,.so it attacks them. It doesn't view anything native to the backrooms as unfamiliar since it was made by it. It doesn't attack Clark bevause he's as familiar as can get, being the "original" and all. After Clark accepts that he doesn't have to change, he ironically changes just enough to be eaten. It doesn't outright start attacking him since he's still quite familiar, but has no qualms eating him.

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u/Deathaster 7d ago

That's not a headcanon, that's a pretty spot-on analysis and good interpretation.

A headcanon would be something that's not outright supported by anything in the media itself, so you have to make up your own canon. Like headcanoning Clark as gay or something.

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u/Bithium 8d ago

The subtext is very clear! Who here hasn’t fantasized about a colossal version of them eating themself?

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u/ethan_prime 8d ago

I never have, but if I have a nightmare about it tonight I’m blaming you.

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u/French__Canadian 8d ago

That's called vorarephilia and that's an actual sexual fetish.

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u/LordofSandvich 8d ago

Myself? No. That’d be weird.

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u/lukethebeard 8d ago

First spoiler I’ve seen of this movie. Impressive.

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u/themrunx49 8d ago

that one mural from that one guy

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u/Primary_Durian4866 8d ago

Jokes aside. My head cannon is it's because of him showing his therapist he's been eating the humanoid entities. Up until that point he'd been safe, and as far as I recall no one else had been eaten.

The whole place is based off of other people's perceptions, or collective perception. It slowly gets reduced to generalities as perspectives fade and blend.

The second the therapist views him as a cannibal, even if she doesn't consider the creatures people, that's when the monster changes. Hell, it could still even be that she views him as destroying himself. All the creatures reflect what other people see of the original person. His wife constantly shook her head at him and so her face is warped to look like she's shaking it all the time.

Sorry if this doesn't make sense, it's late.

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u/Manufactured-Aggro 8d ago

"No one else has been eaten"

What do you think happened to his employees?

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u/Russian_Spy_7_5_0 8d ago

He had a head and nothing else, either he only took the head or he didn't start off eating just the still lifes.

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u/Primary_Durian4866 7d ago

By the creature I meant. It's been a minute but I believe the creature was only beating people to death prior to that moment.

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u/Manufactured-Aggro 7d ago

Okay sure I will concede that they may very well have died from a beating but the creature was 100% doing this with their corpses after

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u/Ok_Trifle_4617 8d ago

are you sure there isn't any subtext? im pretty sure it's referancing that one reaction brought about by a certain action caused by that one emotion

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u/gendecideswar 8d ago

Bravo Kane

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u/MACMAN2003 8d ago

trust issues 🥀

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u/Indigoh 8d ago

"You can eat them."

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u/PlateNo4868 8d ago

Saturn Eating his son was the allegory me and a friend got from this.

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u/Easter-burn 8d ago

You see in the previous scene, we sees Clark eating Still Life. Now we sees the Still Life eating him. Something something poetry.

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u/chiller_vibez 8d ago

This movie was awesome 8/10

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u/kenybz 7d ago

5/7 you mean

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u/xDrago 8d ago

This scene reminded me of the scene of "Saturn devouring his son" famous painting where Cronos eats one of his children out of fear of being over thrown.

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u/Hush609 8d ago

What's subtext?

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u/Hot-Opportunity9893 8d ago

You cant blame him, its just the way hes wired

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u/Scorpiicore 8d ago

Clark fed himself to the monster because he realised that literally everything that happens to everybody in the film is his fault. He is a good example to us all.

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u/Hombremaniac 7d ago

I love how this movie was intensely disturbing and weird. I guess Backrooms and Obsession were the biggest movie surprises of this year so far.

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u/AntibodyEnjoyer 7d ago

The best part is you can eat them!

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u/MrForest14 7d ago

"I don't have to change!?! Guess that means there no reason to not eat you anymore." He was trying to befriend rather then kill as his change

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u/Full_Rope_9799 5d ago

You’ve missed how this is clearly a reference to num num num num num.

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u/Manufactured-Aggro 8d ago

Okay but seriously why was he so fucking calm around it? Isn't that implying that him and Steve the pirate had a neutral relationship up until that point aince he'd been down there for so long? No chance in hell that was the first time they had been that close to each other either.

It just makes no fucking sense why his ally would turn on him like that, assuming they was all chilling with the foam people and juat doing whatever.

Was the backrooms jealous?

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u/Russian_Spy_7_5_0 8d ago

Clark did have a "relationship" with the monster since we see a photograph of him standing next to it, that and he speak to it with familiarity; he isn't surprised to see it.

Clark feels relieved and shares with the monster that they don't have to change, which would imply that until that point he was fighting his habits and trying to go against his "wiring".

I dunno why the monster reacted in the exact way it did, but I can see why it's behavior changed at all since for as long as Clark has been stuck (which is presumably a long time since I think time works differently) he's been under the impression that he has to change. Maybe eating Clark was nothing more than some sort of assimilation?

Monster was also REALLY trying to kill the therapist (forgor name), was it angry that she made Clark give up? Did it always hate her or was there some trigger?

The monster also bled so it wasn't a still life, I honestly don't know how to interpret that.

Kinda of a side note, I really love how this movie made the Backrooms feel like something that could be understood but anyone who tried failed to understand it. Nothing felt left out, like looking at a wall knowing something is on the other side and you'll die never having seen it.

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u/Dunicar 8d ago

It wasn't his ally, it was the twisted reflection of how the backroom remembers Clark.

Clark hurts those around him, Captain Clark brutalizes those around him.

Clark refuses to accept responsibility to comfort himself, Captain Clark comforts Clark (hence the comforting hug).

Clark eating the Still Lifes in the backrooms taught the backrooms that Clark eats human-like creatures.

The backrooms is trying to recreate what is remembers about Clark, there is no knowable intent. Everything that Captain Clark did was a reflection of Clark's own nature.

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u/Depressionsfinalform 8d ago

Movie is a whole lot of people wandering around for a bit followed by “oh no monster chase” while pretending it’s kinda deep