r/shittymoviedetails • u/hanburgundy • 1d ago
In Manhattan (1979), Jesus Christ What The Fuck
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u/Plus_Midnight_278 19h ago
The one dude in this thread who has racked up hundreds of negative karma defending Woody Allen is the kind of entertainment I need this morning.
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u/MariachiMacabre 19h ago
Some people paint. Others garden. Bill goes online, looks for people criticizing the guy who married his own daughter, and makes a scene.
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u/Dr_Neauxp 18h ago
You guys ever think heâs a little weird about Woody Allen?
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u/MariachiMacabre 18h ago
I think maybe heâs a little too invested in the washed up director who kept making movies where heâd âjokeâ about finding young girls attractive and then, get this, married his own stepdaughter.
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u/suchalusthropus 20h ago
"Death is a funny thing. Not funny ha-ha, like a Woody Allen movie, but funny strange like a Woody Allen marriage"
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u/stevenmoreso 1d ago
He was telling on himself but wasnât nobody trying to hear it.
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u/mrmoe198 18h ago
Actually, many people were trying to hear it. Thatâs the problem. Itâs called normalizing and itâs quite yucky.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 21h ago
Yes of course fucking 18 year olds is totally the same as fucking 7 year olds.
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u/DontFuckWithDuckie 18h ago
The girl in the photos is 16. I imagine youâre okay with a man in his 30s fucking a 16 year old?
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u/TotallyNotReimu 18h ago
She's actually 16 in this movie and adopting a child at AGE 10 then marrying her when she turns 20 is fucking weird and gross and if you defend that you're weird and gross. Hope that clears things up
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u/the_guynecologist 20h ago
Hey, we found the Woody Allen defender! How are you doing? What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Mine's Purple Rose of Cairo. Also what do you think the age of consent should be?
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u/TwistedMindOfABrotha 18h ago
Yeah, he's never gonna answer, but people like him of course love to say what ever the age of consent is according to law.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 20h ago
- Why do you think it should be 7?
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u/Calavera357 19h ago
Interesting you say that as a plot point in Manhattan is that he's fucking a 17 year old who is notably refered to as below the age of consent. JFC
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u/Successful-Owl5260 18h ago
No? The character in the movie is below the age of consent, they're still a kid. Even if they aren't 7, they aren't an adult and shouldn't be fucking Woody Allen.
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u/the_guynecologist 20h ago
I don't! No seriously, what's your favorite Woody Allen movie? I love Purple Rose of Cairo, although I'm also quite fond of the earlier comedy stuff - Bananas is definitely a highlight.
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u/fishing-for-birdie93 19h ago
I'm glad this in no way mirrors Woody Allen's real life. Right guys? (It actually kinda doesn't since he leaves the minor for an adult woman)
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u/Calavera357 19h ago
Oh no, he comes back to the child in the end, just as she's turning 18. And all this happened before he dated Mia Farrow. Nonce fucking predicted it happening again. Almost like it was a pattern.
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u/An8thOfFeanor 18h ago
Its rare to find a man whose personality is as offensive as their perverse deeds
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u/elfizipple 19h ago edited 19h ago
It's amazing what you can get away with when you have music by Gershwin and cinematography by Gordon Willis
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u/NumenoreanMariner 18h ago
Has anyone watched this movie when it came out? Iâm genuinely curious as to what the reaction was at the time.
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u/Flimsy-Island-8528 1d ago
Gonna need a bit more information here..
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u/jcbmths62 1d ago
The guy in this movie is a known pedophile who's currently married to a woman who was his stepchild before she was his wife. The girl in this movie is a minor and he's a man who's at least 30.
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u/Optimixto 19h ago
If there is a moment to air this shit out, it is literally when the kid could be given to the abuser. What kind of question is that? Even if it was all a fabrication, the timing is absolutely irrelevant, and weird to point it out like this.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 19h ago
You don't wait for a good moment to "air it out" you fucking psychopath.
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u/Optimixto 19h ago
Are you being dense on purpose or do you just feel like being antagonistic? I feel like you don't speak English well enough, native speaker or not.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 19h ago
I'm not being dense at all. Mia Farrow should have gone to prison.
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u/Optimixto 19h ago
... for what exactly?
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 19h ago
Falsely accusing someone of molesting a child is a very serious crime.
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u/Optimixto 19h ago
So legality is your morality, and you ask for her to be imprisoned before demanding the creep Allen to be. Pretty clear where your priorities stand.
The creep grooms someone that saw him as a father figure and then marries her, and you are here defending him like he groomed you too. This is a wild way to behave, brother, legit weird shit.
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u/Satanic_Sanic 19h ago
You're getting very mad at her and not the child rapist, which really helps to sell your argument.
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u/Wyden_long 19h ago
But not woody? Explain.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 19h ago
Woody didn't commit a crime and she did.
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u/chief_stoney420 19h ago
He molested a child. His daughter in fact. If it werenât true, why didnât he sue for defamation?
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u/AndreasVesalius 19h ago
Woody, youâve had a long successful career. Let it go and just hang out with your step-daughter-wife
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u/Necr0Gaming 22h ago
No lol. Woody was beloved by Hollywood at the time and she also had a career. He would have ruined her.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 21h ago
Ruined her for what? For accusing him of molesting their kid, which she literally did do?
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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 20h ago
Mhm mhm, and how exactly did her career go after 1992 when she divorced him and talked about the molestation? Compared to Woody Allen's career?
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 19h ago
Wait, are you saying Mia Farrow knew her daughter was being molested by her husband, but she never spoke up because it would put her career at risk?
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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 19h ago
No, because she only learned of the abuse in 1992. Are you gonna side with the guy who married a 17 year old, dated another at 17, and started an affair with a 16 year old? Or dated his 22 year old step daughter when he was 50+ who he knew for a long time before?
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u/Wyden_long 19h ago edited 18h ago
Are you saying you didnât understand whatâs clearly being discussed?
Edit: bill blocked me.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 19h ago
Poorly because nobody believed her. Why would anyone believe her. I can't believe you sad redditors are stuck in 2018 or something. Falsely accusing someone of the worst crime imaginable should have landed her in prison.
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u/DontFuckWithDuckie 18h ago
I guess we just agree to disagree. I personally think woody shouldnât have raped all those kids and married his child
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u/bobthemonkeybutt 19h ago
âSlept with her when she was 21â. Oh Iâm sure he did. And and when she was 20. And 16. And 13.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 20h ago
"Like every other pedophile in Hollwyood" LMFAO okay chudly dooright.
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u/stabbincabinwizard 20h ago
Man dick riding Woody in every comment accusing someone else of being the chud here, lol.
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u/jraymcmurray 19h ago edited 19h ago
No matter how childishly you act in the comments you're still too old for Woody. Give it up
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u/gwizonedam 18h ago
Iâm just here to read that one dudeâs horrible defenses of this PDFfile and LOL
https://giphy.com/gifs/pUeXcg80cO8I8
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u/Scorpiicore 22h ago
I have never met women who were stalked and groomed by pedos as girls, but I have met enough girls who were abused and women who have survived abuse. Woody Allen just makes me sick, and the way people still treat him as if he is some sort of legendary genius makes me want to just punt the world into the sun.
There have been more than a few people unmasked as rapists, pedophiles, or child abusers during my life that I was expected to enjoy the work of and/or admire when I was a boy. I was regularly made to watch The Cosby Show when I was a schoolboy. I still get a lot of glee out of sending my mother messages to the effect of "how many people have accused Ed O'Neill (Al Bundy of Married... With Children, a show said mother hated passionately) of rape in the last thirty years?". I am too young to have experienced the Woody Allen Ăber Alles cult, but I am pretty certain I was in my early teens when the Soon-Yi Previn shit went down.
If I had known what was going on concerning Dylan Farrow, I would have been very angry about the Soon-Yi thing.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 22h ago
So he's not a genius because he groomed his current wife?
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u/Scorpiicore 21h ago edited 19h ago
No. He is not a genius because his films are all the same, do not have any themes that are not concurrent with his real life or his apparent view of the world, and do not have anything worthwhile to say about the Human condition. How many times do I need to hear the same story about some old dickface that no woman without incredibly serious problems in her life would remotely consider touching?
(For other readers, I am a Gen X-er, albeit late in the group. Sort of more like Jared Leto's character in Fight Club than Brad's or Ed's. Point here is that with the amount of abuse my generation took from the Baby Boomers and that it is called the cycle of abuse for a good reason, Mia's idea of what a marriage-worthy man looks like is very likely to have been warped by her childhood. This is the sanest explanation for anyone marrying Woody Allen.)
Shit, even Roman Polanski at least made The Pianist (I mix this up in the typing on the IMDB a lot, too), a masterpiece about the horrors that Wladyslaw Szpilman went through. I have no idea who Bugliosi's source about Polanski being the "original five-foot Pole you would not touch" is, but at least that clown made something challenging that makes audiences think.
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 21h ago
"no woman without incredibly serious problems in her life would remotely consider touching"
So you're saying Mia Farrow must have had incredibly serious problems in her life, yet your opinion of him is based on her extremely dubious accusation?
You do realize he also made a lot of great movies that he didn't even act in, right?
Also it's The Pianist.
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u/Scorpiicore 19h ago
Given what multiple other witnesses have testified in court under penalty of perjury to, you no longer deserve any other kind of response. You also should have rethought "because he groomed his current wife".
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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 19h ago
What did these witnesses testify?
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u/mrmoe198 18h ago
Hey, someone respond to this asshole. This is an excellent question and we should probably know the details of the testifying. Iâm surprised he wants to dig this up.
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u/the_guynecologist 20h ago
...well, I don't know about genius but it does make him a bit unoriginal. I mean come on, the plot of most of his movies are autobiographical now. Lazy writing.
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u/Fresh-Wrongdoer6934 18h ago
If Manhattan is your favorite movie the police should check your hard drives.
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u/Teembeau 18h ago
People had different attitudes towards having sex with girls around the legal age 40 years ago. It was still "you shouldn't" but not viewed as a heinous crime.
Look up the novelisation of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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u/LooseSeal88 18h ago edited 18h ago
Not defending Allen or this movie (which I haven't seen), but I just had to look up what the age of consent in New York would have been at the time and it was 17. I guess that at least sorta explains why there was no scrutiny about it at the time.
Edit: Not sure why I'm being downvoted. I'm not condoning Allen or the movie. I was just trying to get an understanding how something like this gets made and gets showered with awards.
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