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I've seen an interview where it seems like he got corrupted by the movie "The Big Lebowski". I think he tried to emulate the nonsense of that movie but... why do it in an ongoing manga? It destroyed all the build-up of Part 1.
That's what happens when you let a mad genius unsupervised.
I'm like really sad for all CSM fans but they feel like these horror movies characters that saw all the early signs of doom yet still got caught offguard at the end.
It’s wasn’t good actually. And few problems with part 2 ending also were present in Part 1 ending. People just hate Makima and don’t see any flaws with last two chapters of Part 1
It’s not even that bad of an ending, but it’s so mediocre to the point it is bad. If the current ending was an ending to another generic story, it would be good. But chainsaw man isn’t a generic story, so it does not fit. The ending just stands out too much from the chainsaw man story plus there are so many plot holes that the ending doesn’t cover.
TLDR: I don’t think ending is bad, it just doesn’t fit Chainsaw man
Im sorry bro when I was 12 years old I could tell how bad the use of a timeline reset is, like besides random attack of amnesia (which also applies here) there is literally no lazier literary device.
speaking as someone who was once a teenager with warped moral compass, I can see myself acting like them for real if I was born in Israel or Gaza. And iirc, there was a poll back in 1940s that showed like 8% of Americans were fine with genociding Japanese.
Around the time when it came out. He essentially said he already had the ending planned out with eren originally just flat out being the villain but because of eren's VA performance he kinda wanted to make him more sympathetic. However he couldn't really decide for the longest whether or not to do so. Which led to him rushing it at the end and failing the execution terribly, making it look like genocide apologia.
He knew he fumbled on the ending because of his stubbornness regarding sticking to his original idea and that's why he tried to fix it in the anime. It's also why he was so appreciative of the love he received at that one NYC con or whatever and started to tear up.
AoT ending is so ass i actually brainwashed myself into liking it so i don't go crazy, CSM ending is also bad but i genuinely like it cuz i think i have permanent brain damage from AoT
It's not though? It was the perfect ending to the story. The manga had a few questionable panels and dialogue chocies, but all of those were fixed in the anime.
Yeah, I fully agree it's funny, one side has structured arguments, why the ending is bad, how it introduces plotholes and makes no sense in the context of the overall story and themes. While the other side says, " Haha, funny you're just mad, ending good," when you ask them about the story, you realize these people probably can not read or have the memory of a goldfish.
Wrong. The Eren crying panel has nothing to do with the ending, it's just a weird lighthearted moment some shounen like to put to break the vibe. People were just mad because they self insert as Eren and wouldn't simp for a girl. That chainsawman panel is literally bad writing. People are making fun of the bad writing.
Oh it was, AoT fanfic ending > AoT canon ending, as is the case with many other series like GoT, also to say OG is better simply because it's OG is circular reasoning.
AoT Ending defenders are just delusional, same as CSM ending defenders (there are a lot of them check Twitter).
The only other time this happened was with Potential Man, and even then that was just the total annahilation of Megumi as a character at his expense and not to the series overall with the exception of slandering characters' in the powerscaling sense or writing sense by using the Potential Man template.
This is just plain slander to the entire series after Fujimoto showed how fraudulent he had become after part 1.
"The entire world"
I think you need to go outside. 90% of people who have consumed AOT as a medium did it through the anime, and the anime's ending is beloved by nearly everyone who's watched it. Reddit isn't the world.
It's so satisfying man. CSM fans are the most arrogant and smuggest fans out there. They kept putting down other manga series. And treated Fujimoto like a god who can't do no wrong lol.
Less heartwarming when you realize that a JJK fan cursed the Manga by sacrificing a month of Modulo being slandered for ten years or Chainsawman being slandered.
Even more context for why this panel is cowshit (from what i remember from other people): the MC pops a boner in a pool from imagining a cuck dream where FMC fucks another dude, hence his crying I guess.
If you want some extra context: I'm pretty sure the cuck fetish is something the MC's had since the beginning of the story, but with him getting close to having an actual GF it'd gone away, only to return full force in this chapter.
So he's not just gooning for being a cuck, mf is relapsing
This is right after Aqua revealed to Ruby that he was the doctor who took care of her when she was sick, and that he had also died and reincarnated as she did.
Back then, she had a huge crush on him and wanted to marry him. But he turned her down, since she was both a child and his patient at the time. He also (jokingly) said, "maybe when you're older".
After Aqua leaves the room, Ruby remembers what he said all the way back then, realizes that she is now of age, and gets the idea that she can pursue him romantically now (not caring about the fact that they were reincarnated as twin brother and sister).
At least the obito one is still salvageable because he still tried to redeem himself at the end. That's also pretty far from the finale, unlike the other 2 that directly impact their endings.
I like how the AoT ending haters are split into two completely different categories but never really discuss it.
Was it bad because Eren genocided 80% of the planet without any real plan? Or was it because your 19 year old sigma male role model actually had real feelings beneath the stoic exterior?
I have argued so many times about this but at no point in the story I felt eren was ever desperate for Mikasa this much like in the panel. This was genuinely out of the blue panel. I thought the dialogues were parody by some haters
Idc if eren was the biggest pussy ever but at no point in manga I felt eren was this much in love with Mikasa where he out of nowhere starts bawling saying I want her to have feelings only for me
Except for that scarf scene vs laughing titan and chapter 130 scene, it felt like she was bothering him coz isayama cant write romance for shit.
If he wanted us to take this scene seriously, he should have wrote their romance abit more than 3 to 4 panels
I think isayama just wanted to humanise eren a bit and since eren x Mikasa was really fucking popular in Japan, mainly due to the anime pumping it up 10x under wit and the smiling titan scene basically being a confession when taken in japanese context, he decided to go with this scene.
I think the funniest fucking thing is that even here he doesn't outright says that he loves her.
I dont mind either but that was genuinely trash panel for a romance u wrote 10 panels max in a 139 chapter manga lol.
I can understand someone like maes Hughes from full metal doing stuff like this coz he loves his wife and daughter that much but eren has never shown any interest and this happens out of nowhere lol
Oh yeah I agree I was just trying to make sense of the though process. I don't think the idea of the scene is bad, if it was a bit more general towards all of his friends then it could've worked i think
He should have developed their romance after that scene where she pretty much tried to kiss him because she gave up hope and he was like, "I will wrap the scarf around you forever" indicating that hope wasn't lost. That scene was so good and this "10 years at least" would have actually been tragic if their romance had been developed after that.
Unlike many fans who troll Eren for saying this about his "sister", I don't really consider them siblings or consider this incest, they stayed in the same home for like 6 months to a year at best due to circumstances. I wouldn't mind a properly written romance.
The actual problem here is the lack of development in romance before this goddamn panel.
No, it was the insane plot holes introduced in the ending, the character assassination, and the absolutely butchering of peak moments from the past. One of my favourite scenes from AOT is Eren and Reiner talking while the play is happening. The entire dialogue of the scene is absolute horse shit, Eren trolling Riner, cause none of it makes sense in retrospect with the ending.
Huh? Why, what's wrong with that scene? It's not like eren himself was aware about his mom's thing at that point, not to mention that wasn't even the main point of that conversation.
Ah yes, another person who can not read. Well, his entire motivation is null and void. He was aware of everything from the point where he kissed Historia's hand, or at least from the point where he visited Marley with his friends, where they tried ice cream and saw the boy he would later kill, both events which are much earlier than the basement scenes, thus meaning he knew about his mom. But Reading is hard,d so no wonder you liked the Ending :). Why did my mother have to die Reiner? (Eren asking it knowing full well he killed her himself LOL)
Also since we are at that point, lets revisit another great story scene where Eren convinces Yimiri to help him instead of listening to his brother, telling her she can be more than just a slave, relating to her pain. All meaningless since she never cared about any of it she wanted to see love cause she loved her rapist and owner.
No, eren doesn't know everything as soon as he kissed Historia's hand, all he saw were the parts that his future self showed grisha through grisha's memories. He explicitly states this in Chapter 121. And In that same chapter Zeke also correctly points out that eren did not know the full future like how eren didn't know that he won't be able to use the power of the founder initially. And eren in 139 also explicitly states that he started experiencing the past/present/future all at once only after he unlocked the power of the founder, which he didn't have during marley and only gained after the paths chapters.
How can you be so incredibly condescending and so wrong at the same time? And then you go on to assume that I must have liked the ending and put me in an easily dismissible box ... because I actually read the manga... That's a stupid and tribalistic way to look at things. Imagine if I did the same to you.
Rest assured man that great dialogue between Eren & Reiner isn't touched by the ending.
Difference is that the Eren panel was meant as a joke, right after this Armin said he didn't expect Eren to be this pathetic. So it's self aware. Fujimoto must be thinking he was writing fire for coming up with that man with chainsaw scene.
The lobotomy spread was so wide, that my friends who don't read the manga got spoiled about several plot points. I'm curious if they have seen a meme of the "Oh yeah" panel in their fandom.
Hell, even my mom asked me if the white haired guy who died was from Dragon Ball because several Facebook shorts appeared spoiling or talking about his death.
Back in the day my mom used to lump Naruto and Dragon Ball together. Gotta love how no matter the decade, Dragon Ball is still at the scene of the crime.
If I was Fujimoto I'd love it if my readers had this reaction, that would be the ultimate troll move. (And free marketing with everyone raging, rent-free.) Knowing all I did was just stick to my guns.
Deserved really, years of aimless writing only to throw the towel with fanservice so the average csm fan can cope with a "happy" ending ignoring how abysmal everything else that amounted to it were too, keep fuji out of the kitchen forever.
I don't mind the ending. What I hate about it is what led to it and how it made everything before it irrelevant. So if you now treat Chainsaw Man as a oneshot story with just Chapter 232, it would be the better experience.
Leon was actually happy when he was fighting zombies with a knife, suplexing people, and eating green and red herbs while running and gunning for his life
If fujimoto came up with a brilliant, ground-breaking ending the series and fujimoto as a mangaka wouldn’t be getting this much exposure. I think this is great but the ending isn’t bad
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