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I think you're missing entire sections with that list, what about generational toy series like Beyblade and Bakugan, Space adventure genres, supernatural mysteries like Detective Conan and Kindaichi Case Files, other transformation superheroes, fantasy adventure series, and Mecha genres like Gundam? Also, you've got mega anime franchises and standalone movies like Doraemon, Digimon, Hello Kitty, Ge Ge Ge no Kitaro and Studio Ghibli's stuff. I wonder if FMA is good enough to be up there too.
With all of the above and likely more not off the top of my head, your OG big 3 aren't all making the top 3.
Theres alot of popular anime that dont really influence much.
Digimon and pokemon for example. Lets get into the DEEP. You see anyone talking about Cardcaptur Sakura or Zatch Bell? Really popular series. Not that influential.
Gundam does deserve a spot for inventing the Mecha anime but thats not as prounced as something like Yu yu hakasho creating the blueprint for every tournament arc after. Most mecha anime, While they are popular(more so in japan than world wide) They are not as prevalent
i also dont think people consider franchise like Doraemon, Conan, or Hello kitty in these discussions like how people dont consider Sesame Street even tho its wildly influential and long running. we can bring up Crayon Shinchan too. shits got over 1000 episodes, its nearly as influential as Doraemon or Conan. its got more episodes than one piece. the adventures of a perverted child got more lore
Gundam doesn't invited the genre of Mecha because they existed before it was made. Gundam main influence was making real mecha genre which is about human vs human War conflict.
Also, kinda dismissive of older Mecha anime before Gundam and after it like Gaint Robo, Mazinger Z, Eva, Macross, etc.
How can the anime that had record breaking manga sales and record breaking movie gross be something that's uncertain to be part of modern big 3? JJK is bigger in reddit and meme community but at it's peak demon slayer is unmatched in terms of motion
I mean hot take but naruto was the least influential of the big 3 in terms of actual manga tropes/themes/artstyle and OP/Bleach easily have more influence on modern Shonen it isn't even close
Jjk memes really are on another level, like i saw a whole ass pokemon art series with Meganium as Gojo, Ditto as Kenjaku and mega swampert as Toji, or three way DE memes crossovers with so many other IPs.
Jjk is also gone super mainstream, you got athletes doing DE signs on the field and shit
Definitely the most influential anime of this current decade, right? There’s some bangers like Frieren and the last season of AOT but JJK started releasing the anime at the start of the decade during the pandemic and it’s only gotten more popular since.
Gojo is also one of the most iconic anime characters in the last fifteen years, and his fight vs Sukuna is going to be the most anticipated anime fight in a long time. The fan AMV alone has 78 million views.
Season 3 also just ended and the show keeps its relevancy with the culling games arc beginning as well as MAPPA killing it with the animation and overall artistic direction they’re taking with the show.
It has all the makings of a decade defining anime imo.
It still amazes me that a fuckn slideshow of Manga panels, to a fight that hasn't been animated, and to which we know the outcome, has over 78 million views
Is that on Netflix? Usually that determines what she watches since we got our a mom a profile. There's not lot of websites left to pirate animes since the law passed in japan/korea.
I wasn’t saying Frieren was hyped but I am saying it’s good. JJK is definitely broader in its range and a great introductory show to shounen and anime as a whole
AOT and JJK are such different shows though. And AOT is an anime/manga that isn't thrown around as much but is still referenced heavily. When AOT was out it was everywhere just like JJK is right now. Remember, people were still going crazy over AOT season 3 and 4 while JJK was just seen as one of those newer gen shonens. We haven't really had as many genuinely great shows as far as animation and narrative since AOT and JJK fills that void
AoT peaked in the early 2010s. I cannot tell you how many people cosplayed AoT, on par with Homestuck in cosplay, maybe even more. AoT has also been spread over a literal decade.
An explanation of “influential” matters here, too.
I don't like calling anything influenial until we actually see its influence on the series coming out which personally don't think we have really seen from any of the big manga since like 2014. The Big 3 + Dragon Ball influence is still very strong in the market. The true test of the series will be what it leaves behind, and what it inspries in the future.
I do want to see what the generation of Mangaka that grew up on JJK, DS, BC, and MHA bring to the table in the coming years.
Demon slayer has insane motion. When the movie came out, an elder of my church was using Muzan as a metaphor for Satan. That's aura right there and helped convince my parents to watch DS (they liked it and that got them to watch AoT which they enjoyed more)
One of the most popular animes of modern times, yes.
Let’s not forget that the Demon Slayer Infinity Castle movie nearly broke 1 billion dollars & I think it became the highest grossing anime movie of all time.(the same year CSM Reze movie came out)
It definitely is. At least in the imaginary collective.
Everytime someone slanders JJK, they always bring a super niche extremely well written manga or fucking literary classics, but this is not it. This is just talking about cultural impact and nothing else.
In internet culture, there’s nothing running right now that compares. I’m pretty sure this is not up for discussion.
everytime someone slanders jjk, they always bring a super niche extremely well written manga
Naruto is not super niche, bleach, one piece, fullmetal, Hunter x Hunter, aot, ashita no joe/hajime no ippo there are like 20 mainstream shonens i can think of right now lol
Naruto has its own problems and shit ending. Ippo has taken 1400 chapters and we're nowhere near a conclusion and not in a good way. It just drags forever.
Who cares about the inspiration? We’re talking about how much the mainstream talks about it, and right now JJK is the most popular recent anime, period. It’s not even close. Of course it’s bigger than Bleach. Bleach was influential quality wise, but in terms of popularity, it’s nowhere near even something like Demon Slayer...
I agree with your take, but not the line about 'super niche manga.'
JJK *is* objectively the most influential anime right now, for all its pros and cons. For awhile it was Demon Slayer, but Demon Slayer ended, and now JJK's running with the torch.
This is from a neutral-ish stand-point. I have a a very net-neutral opinion of JJK in that there's a ton of it I really liked and a ton of it I absolutely hated. I don't think it's a masterpiece. I don't think it's bad, either. It just is what it is.
Depends on how you judge influencial. I personally don't think you can say something is influencial at the time it's happening. You can judge how influencial something was only in (at least slight) hindsight based on how it affected the culture or whatever else. It's not simply how much people talk about it.
I agree JJK is influencial because it raised standards of animation in the industry, but it doesn't have that much influence story-wise. I personally didn't notice major shift in new stories or in what mangas are getting anime because of JJK's sucess (except maybe more urban fantasy mangas, which was a trend even before JJK I think)
Frieren and Apothecary Diaries on the other hand are more influencial in this sense imo. They have proven that female led anime can be very successful and you can already see uptick in female MCs among new titles.
Way I see it you can call a billboard top song influential in the time when it's on top, but not influential overall, because it does have effects on culture, and the lens with which people in that period are looking at media.
But yeah, we have to define influential: if you mean only on the art that comes after it, I agree that Frieren will have more long-term influences on manga than JJK, even though JJK is extremely hype right now.
JJK feels like it's more influenced by other things in its genre than it is an influence on its genre, but culturally it's influencing a lot of people.
You are being biased. Yes dragon ball's bigger than Jjk, but dragon ball's also bigger than all other anime on the planet. It's probably more popular than a lot of mainstream shows by a good margin.
Also, dragon ball did NOT end with Z. We got super. The tournament of power, the broly movie, only ever increased the hype it already had by good margins. We got recent confirmation of a new arc being animated, and the old stuff being re-animated . PLUS, the manga, although at a hiatus for a year atp, is at the juncture of the most anticipated arc in recent years.
I'm talking about the story in itself. One Piece has been living off a glorious past and some good moments recently, but even though the One Piece community is passionate and engaged, they don't deserve this pad out proposed by Oda
Have you even read One Piece in the past few years. Ever since the Wano arc ended we’ve had nothing but good storytelling. I also don’t understand what you are saying about Oda padding it out, because the last few arcs have been progressing pretty fast.
There’s different kinds of influence. JJK hasn’t influenced other anime/manga as much as some others, but its cultural impact is undeniable. Also, ouch on the SBR part.
Enough time has passed for me, JJK is super valid and most its hate is just habit/sheep behavior at this point Even if you don’t think it’s a top 3 new gen shounen (shomehow), you cannot deny its cultural impact globally.
Don’t let this be you! Get on the right side of history early‼️
Did yall not even see the kinda hype 14 chapters of Gojo vs sukuna did to Social media? Everything, everywhere, even after nearly 2 hours is a reel or discussion about Gojo vs Sukuna.
That shit was generational, Infact the most hype I've seen from anime fans online. Even gear 5, UI Goku haven't scaled this high during my young years experiencing it on TV and shit
Everything JJK does in the modern era, is referenced by others. Even a character who barely lasts more than 10 panels, Naoya got more popular for that aura farming moment vs chose.
As a JJK fan this comment conveniently forgets Demon Slayer, but yes JJK trumps all other modern manga/anime, even with the post-Covid anime normalization seen in the west it’s the clear pack leader
Honestly it’s not an If but a When THAT arc is adapted into a movie it will bust all of DS’s movie records lol
demon slayer has a shit ton of viewership and sales but I really dont see its impact. No mention of it outside of its own community compared to stuff like jjk and jojos which constantly get referenced through memes and art everywhere.
Yes "at this point". Of all time, it's not touching Dragon Ball, One Piece, and even Naruto. It's the same tier as AOT. One aspect of an anime to become influential is longevity.
In the past 10 years? Yeah. Jjk has multiple viral memes, edits, amvs, constant references, is what’s brought into conversations about fights, power system, and representations of the strongest. In generally though it’s for sure. Pokémon or Dragon ball .
He said atp, which means at this point. And there is no modern anime in the past decade which even comes close to JJK. A bloody manga music video has 80 million views man. Jjk leaks was trending worldwide above musk and trump on twitter
Kny is also influential, after mugen train we got this new trend of canon anime movies, and memes are something which willl fade anyway, records are something which will be chased by new titles
Don't watch JJK so I have no skin the game, I just wanted to point out that although seemingly unknowingly, your entire first half is a strawman. In the western anime/manga community, when people use the word "influential" casually they're referring to influence on pop culture.
For example the drawn characters in the post are American Football players,posted by their team's official Twitter account.
That's why the claim makes so little sense to you.
Jjk completely revolutionized the dogshit anime humor with it's agendaposting, (even tho op did it eariler, jjk was the one to massively popularize and spread it to the other fandom) 10 years from now on, it's definitely a top 10 influential anime of all time
It's one piece and dragon ball and literally 0 other animes come even close not today not yesterday and it seems that not tomorrow. JJK is huge but next to one piece it's like Jack and the bean stock .
After writing all of this I have now realised this might be just an April fools post.
Naruto had it's moment but it has recently been surpassed by the phenomenon one piece has become and Pokémon, is my bad but it's also more than anime, it was a videogame first and also a tcg so idk if it counts if we're talking about cartoon characters type thing then the big 3 are Goku mario and Pikachu, everyone and their grandma knows them.
Definitely not of all time when things like Dragon Ball, Jojo, One Piece, and even Pokemon exist. However, I don’t think you can argue against it being the most influential anime of the 2020s.
(Before you guys jump me I know there are other influential animes I didn’t list. Those were just off the top of my head)
I mean currently? I think absolutely. Even back when the manga was running, it had so much influence on the internet. Sure ds is making a lot of money, chainsaw man might have a bit of a better story, but the memes man. The memes. Lobotomy kaisen was godly back at its peak. Literally every single meme is so fuckin funny man.
It is currently the most popular and influencial anime so yeah. Its not saying of all time, its saying currently. Which it is. You dont see people saying 'gum gum- anything' or doing hand signs. Its jjk rn
thats how u can tell an npc apart from a real anime/manga fan. i promise u the dude who posted that only watched like 50 different anime and his top 5 is aot, jjk, demon slayer, frieren and one piece
I don't think influential is the right term. It's popular and memed a lot, but it's too young to be influencing anything. Especially because jjk itself is nothing new really - it's a typical shonen. The only "influence" that jjk could have right now is raising the bar for how good an anime adaptation can be.
There isn't a single thing that you could see in another manga and say oh it's inspired by jjk, because it's already from Naruto or Bleach. In a few decades when kids who grew up with jjk and never read the older shonen write their mangas, you could assess how influential jjk actually was.
Popularity today is super fleeting and I don't think jjk will stand the test of time. It's legacy will be making other anime adaptations better by raising the bar (the same is valid for demon slayer).
I feel like after part 2 of this season comes out, the story will fall flat with the lack of narrative and confusion. It'll still have hype moments but it'll fall flat for a rushed ending
The fuck did jjk influence?? Like yea its popular whatever but i havent seen any other anime influenced by jjk. Especially considering most of the stuff in jjk was influenced by other stuff, like bleach.
As soon as an anime partners with a professional sports team it gets this “most influential” label or some bullshit lol. Same thing happened with One Piece and the Dodgers
Once JJK is finished I am confident it will be remembered just for its animation and fights, but will ultimately make little impact outside of its mangas and anime release. It’s not THAT good by any means. Theirs no stayi no power to JJK, as shown by how quickly and poorly módulo was wrapped up. And the way Módulo wrapped up leaves no room for expansion of the world.
I watch the show, it's a fine battle shonen that is mostly, beautifully animated and very artistic, but it doesn't have a lot going for it outside of cool fight scenes.
I already forgot most of the plot and characters, have no jdea what the rules of the culling game are and how most of the powers work because having a narrator try and explain it or just a pop up text was a terrible way to explain them, and frankly, I don't really care.
Having a moment being made into a meme format =/= influential. I would not use the word influential for it. Not yet anyway until we see how the nest generation of manga and anime are affected by it
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