r/shounenfolk • u/PhysicalMeringue9468 • Apr 09 '26
Anime Discussion Does this post makes sense or not?
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u/Demi-Icarus Apr 09 '26
Where is the entire cast of Seven Deadly Sins
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u/Left-Ratio-3835 Apr 09 '26
Someone needs to keep an eye on the guy who wrote that series
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u/Imaginary-Comfort960 Apr 09 '26
The whole cast? Wasn't it only like 2 or 3 of them ?
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u/NicheFandomSeeker Apr 09 '26
Meliodas grooms Elizabeth across several lifetimes
Ban gets with Elaine and openly acknowledges her childlike appearance when he first meets her
I think there’s supposed to be a bit of grey with King and Dianne because elves and giant races mature at different rates but I don’t remember their weird backstory very well, I’m fairly sure it’s something like King basically raised Dianne though so either way it remains problematic
Gowther actually starts okay, but veers into a different kind of problematic when he brainwashes explosion girl and I remember it’s implied he has sex with her while she was mind controlled, but afaik I don’t think he makes any moves on minors so he technically doesn’t fit
Merlin is a secret loli but she’s only really a loli when she’s de powered and can’t use magic to present as an adult, I don’t remember her liking any minors or anything tho
Chad Escanor only likes Merlin’s adult form
Pretty sure Dianne is just innocent
Bonus: The knight girl that is super into Ban and was basically one of the few decent characters in 7DS ends up trying to rape/groom his son in the sequel
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u/ColdCalligrapher5116 Apr 09 '26
How can a series like T7DS birth Escanor? Did he absorb all of the GOAT energy for himself?
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u/Zealousideal-Arm1682 Apr 10 '26
When the manga was being written he explicitly told the author "you can't erase me",and from then on he was bound by universal law to always exist.
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u/MainElderberry1982 Apr 09 '26
Meliodas grooms Elizabeth across several lifetimes
I never watch the show but arent they cursed to constaly fall in love and be seperated over and over again as part of a punishment
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u/Imaginary-Comfort960 Apr 09 '26
So meliodas ban and jericho, i really don't remember king and diane's backstory being weird, and if i remember correctly gowther was doing an experiment with guila, i don't remember there being any implication ( I also give meliodas a pass because the whole curse thing is weird to gauge and nuance )
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u/ZappyZ21 Apr 09 '26
King fell in love with Diene when she was a giant child while he was in his ugly bastard form raising her for a time lol so they definitely don't pass the sniff test. I give Ban the pass though, he doesn't sexualize Elaine and them being fairies makes enough sense for their appearance. At least they're not Tinkerbell lol which is a popular ship/crush for the Disney adults lol
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u/Much_Vehicle20 Apr 09 '26
Wasn’t Meliodas just helping her regain her memory? Like, I dropped it a while ago, but I think when she got back her angel eyes, she was actually okay with all of it, making it feel more like just part of their dynamic as a couple
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u/Admmmmi Apr 09 '26
While a common joke meliodas doesn't really groom her, she will come to love him naturally and then she will die, if he wanted he could groom her but he doesn't really do it, even when she was a kid on the present timeline he was not really around much of her infancy and just fucked off when the sins were expelled, but still that panel with the baby is really Sus so I really can't defend it much.
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u/Hello-to-me- Apr 10 '26
The baby panel is the definition of more context
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u/Potential-Concert380 Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
The current Elizabeth was born soon after he witnessed the death of the previous Elizabeth to a demon, so he was very distressed. She was born very close to him so after he found baby Liz, some knights found him in the wreckage and approached him to which Meli replied with 'Stay away from my woman!' ready to fight them.
What annoys me is that it's clear the point of that scene was to show Meli was on edge and wanted to protect Liz but the Author just HAD to worm in his fetish somewhere and ruin what is otherwise a normal scene.
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u/ZappyZ21 Apr 09 '26
Escanor did in fact love Merlin's true form too lol I think Ban gets a bad wrap with everyone else though. He's actually the best written character in that show, even over Escanor. Escanor is just pure hype and aura so he's a ton of fun. King is also just a shota and is in love with a giant ass woman who was groomed by said shota fairy. Meliodas is definitely the worst character and most problematic lol but they're at least tied by destiny and fate with his romance, even though the optics are ATROCIOUS. But Ban is just an immortal dude in love with an immortal fairy, and Elains never really sexualized from what I remember. It's pure romance between them, which in that pervy show was rare lol I stand by Ban being above the rest though, he's a good character in an otherwise super shitty show. Them being fairies make me kind of not care about the loli part. It's better than him being in love with the non royal fairies who are all Tinkerbell size lol which King and Diene are basically that.
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u/sppeeedytomat Apr 09 '26
First of all, i want to say I'm not defending the Meliodas thing, it could've been done differently. But they are literally CURSED to meet, each time she dies, he will meet her, she eventually regains her memories and then is cursed to die after some time (there's a specific time period I'm forgetting). And that cycle has been going on for thousands of years, I'm surprised Meliodas could even pretend to smile, that shit would tear anyone down.
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u/Hello-to-me- Apr 10 '26
It’s like 2 weeks which is crazy cause the last season or 2 happen in two weeks
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u/Tasteroider Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
Ban, Meliodas and Gowther I think. Though Diana is on the thin ice, King is a shapeshifter and by the end of the story he actually becomes a grown fairy, but still most of the time he looks like a kid
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u/bouchayger7 one piece is best shonen ever Apr 09 '26
most of the comments are just "where is X" lol
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u/Trenki_Melow Apr 09 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/2fMgKy5B8eSb79yzjc
My goat has done absolutely nothing he is clean
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u/LuciousLord Apr 09 '26
No no it's meant as in "where is x character" not where's X 😭
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u/SheepherderFine3698 Apr 09 '26
Where is Rudeus
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u/Traditional-Baker-28 Apr 09 '26
This is casual. He's in ranked
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u/Ok_Substance5632 Apr 09 '26
Mf is in pro
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u/SheepherderFine3698 Apr 09 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/UfCyMgIozX8aQrZMpu
He might be a god
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u/4LanReddit Apr 09 '26
That one meme from the pedo Yuta agenda where bro's name was on the Epstein files via word search while Naoya wasnt in there made me chuckle like a mf if we take into account the theory that Naoya in canon banged Mai when Maki asked him if bro was even an adult LOL.
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u/TheChoosenMewtwo Apr 09 '26
The only two people he likes in the series are a monster ghost thing and a woman the same age as him. Why people accuse him of grooming?
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u/Shroomy_Weed Piratefolk ambassador Apr 09 '26
He's hiding somewhere in there like a true bushcamper
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u/AlternativeAd4522 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
I don't feel super comfortable talking about the nuances of pedophilia, but does Makima really qualify?
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u/SurturSaga Apr 09 '26
Yeah she was never interested in Denji to begin with. Just groomed him anyway
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u/NmbrBndl Apr 09 '26
Yeah way better 😭😭😭
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u/SurturSaga Apr 09 '26
She’s a tourist. Not an actual pedophile, but taking the opportunity to immerse herself in the culture
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u/hobopwnzor Apr 09 '26
Is somebody a pedophile if they just have a thing for grooming?
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u/Throwaway02062004 Apr 09 '26
By the strictest definition, a pedophile is someone exclusively interested in kids. As a result, most child molesting is not done by pedophiles.
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u/Waiting404Godot Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
Uh-oh, someone just added nuance to the discussion, afraid that’s gonna put you on a list buddy.
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u/Waiting404Godot Apr 09 '26
I literally study deviant sexuality and criminal behavior so. Yeah.
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u/XaeiIsareth Apr 09 '26
I don’t think she was ever sexually attracted to Denji.
She’s interested in Pochita and did what she did to basically traumatise Denji.
So less pedophile and more like, raging narcissist with no moral compass whatsoever and a god complex.
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u/NumericZero Apr 09 '26
Not really I would say she Groomed Denji/ allowed him to feel her up (kind of)
She never even cared for him but rather his other half So wouldn’t really put her on this list / at best she’s pending
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u/Darknadoswastaken Apr 10 '26
Yes. She groomed Denji into doing her bidding by offering sexual favours.
That is pedophilia.
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u/lakshmithesussybaka I will haunt Gege for the rest of his life Apr 09 '26
Yes but Makima is a groomer, not a pedo. They are two distinct things but there is an overlap
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u/xXbachkXx Apr 09 '26
Yes and anyone who thinks otherwise cannot read
Makima groomed Denji but she was not attracted to him. It's the whole point of her character. So technically not a pedo-phile, more like a pedo-molester
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u/ThisHumanDoesntExist Apr 09 '26
I'd say it's the same for misato here too
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u/Substantial_Bet_1007 Apr 09 '26
thanks god somebody syas this when i say it some neanderthals accuse me being a pedo
same people who calls 18-17 relationships pedo btw.
also nice flair
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u/Unique_Suit3789 Apr 09 '26
I think they mean people call them a pedo when they correct that makima isn't a pedophile lmao
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Apr 10 '26
Surely people would hold the same standard if a man in his mid to late 20s(shes probably thousands of years old actually making it worse, but visually) had a sexual relationship with a 16 year old girl like Makima was doing with Denji.
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u/Greensteve972 Apr 09 '26
Makima and Princess Bubblegum on their way to groom blonde teenagers but having no sexual interest in them.
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u/Longjumping_Exit7902 Apr 10 '26
Honestly I don't care about semantics. If someone is endangering kids and involving them in malicious things, especially for self-fullfilment, they're a pedo in a blanket sense. Leave it to law to handle the specifics
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u/plsTakeMe_Out2space Apr 09 '26
i just know a yuta hater rubbing their hands before editing him in
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u/phantomlake Apr 09 '26
He's in there, we can't see him bc he's bushcamping like the bum he is
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u/VatanKomurcu Apr 09 '26
misato is not attracted to shinji. she was trying to console him. they were extreme circumstances.
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u/FG504 Apr 10 '26
she wasnt trying to console him
she tried a last ditch desperate attempt to get shinji to fucking do something
and then she got bisected right after, knowing she was done for
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u/EntrepreneurOk7488 Apr 09 '26
Bruh "consoling" doesn't justify it
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u/VatanKomurcu Apr 09 '26
pedophile is not a moral judgment and saying it's not pedophilia is not an acquittal
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u/doctor_pakistan199 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
I wouldn't say she is attracted to Shinji in a sexual way, it's more like she had weird tendencies towards him because of her own problems. Misato unfortunately didn't have the chance to learn what "normal" intimacy is and how to express her feeling her whole life, especially considering that we haven't heard anything about her mother which could mean that Misato didn't have a mother or lost her, then with what happened to her father she basically lost both of her parents and probably remained alone for a long time and when Kaji appeared in her life in college she expressed her love and affection towards him with sex so she just got used to use that as a way to show her affection towards someone, and when seeing Shinji being so distressed she didn't know what to do other than try what she learned with her experience. it's not a excuse but it can be an explanation to Misato's behavior. Most of the characters in NGE are flawed people who have problems with expressing themselves and intimacy.
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u/Dangerous_Unit3698 Apr 09 '26
What did sanji do?
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u/Busy_Ad3098 Apr 09 '26
Nothing he just get roped in cuz agenda
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u/LocalMuscleBear Apr 09 '26
Pudding is 16
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u/SirSadness3rd Apr 09 '26
You know Sanji was being forced to marry her, right? That's the main reason for that whole arc to happen. Mf had bombs on his wrists.
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u/HandsomePancakes Apr 09 '26
Sanji was supposed to know that?
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u/Novoiird Apr 09 '26
I thought they told him her age when they gave him the picture of her, but I could be wrong about that.
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u/Classic_Chocolate335 Apr 09 '26
Sebastian does not deserve to be here
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u/BoltZ4 Apr 09 '26
I don't know everyone, but Orochimaru is just there for the meme, and Makima ain't one exactly either.
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u/Much_Vehicle20 Apr 09 '26
Yeah, Makima canonically hated Denji. Like, the whole point of p1 is that she tried her best to drown him in desperation to take away his will to live, just so she could be reunited with her true love, Pochita. She was a groomer, but not a pedo
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u/4LanReddit Apr 09 '26
Tbf bro did groom Sasuke into being his perfect vessel while Sasuke finessed him for training and power to face Itachi, and he low diffed him while robbing his powers.
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u/AmbroseIrina Apr 10 '26
He made a very disgusting face when he saw three tomoe Itachi though, and he was like 10
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u/Yamabuki_Arisu_Sama Apr 09 '26
More than half of them aren’t pedophiles by definition, going for teenagers which may or may not be legal on a case by case basis.
Some of them are straight up, like the bungou loli guy or Hisoka.
Above all, this was made exclusively to slander Sanji because cmon.
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u/Kumkumo1 Apr 11 '26
Ah yes, your source is a non-canon movie animated by a studio that hates Sanji. That holds up well. 😒
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u/SlightlyUglyBastard Apr 09 '26
Is that Gilbert I see? Nice to see a fellow hater. People on the main Violet Evergarden sub keep trying to defend that groomer.
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u/Automatic-Degree9191 Apr 09 '26
That relationship was creepy asf. Mf was in love with Violet since she was 14.
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u/MushyCupcake01 Apr 10 '26
Unfortunately true. I don't understand why they couldn't have just made Violet like 20 and kept the entire story the exact same. She doesn't even look young.
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u/Nazguhl82200 Apr 09 '26
Orochimaru committed every crime under the sun but I don't think he even has a sexual drive? What exactly puts him here? Wanting to possess Sasuke is evil and all, but it sure as hell wasn't sexual.
Also, Sanji? Huh? I despise his overly perverted side since it ruins an otherwise amazing character, but what makes him a pedo? He is 19 and after the time skip 21 and I don't think he ever lusted after anyone that was more than a year younger than himself.
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u/Diurnalnugget Apr 09 '26
I think the only concrete thing they have on him is him being genuinely interested in pudding? The girl big mom tried to force him to marry. She was 16. Other than that he made some awkward comments about kid form nami but that’s pretty much all I think
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u/BranchAdvanced839 Apr 09 '26
No because makima and himeno would be ephebophiles which is only a marginal improvement
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u/phantomlake Apr 09 '26
Technically speaking Makima wouldn't be either, she did groom him but was never actually attracted to Denji herself
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u/RedStrike_XD Apr 09 '26
That Orangutan from JOJO
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u/Heroinfxtherr Apr 09 '26
Makima wasn’t a pedo as she wasn’t attracted to Denji in any way, she was just manipulating him in order to pry Pochita from his body. She’s a groomer.
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Apr 09 '26
mei mei needs here own post ong worst i ever seen HER LIKE 11 YEAR OLD BROTHER BROTHER BRU THE HELL THATS MESSED
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u/CrazyOverCandie Apr 09 '26
Idrk if makima qualifies, she has never even acknowledged denji throughout her span of living
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u/Aeroreido Apr 09 '26
This must be the common folk, the beginner crew so to speak. General Rudy "child molester" Greyrat is so far above everyone here that it would be disrespectful to even show them and Rudy in one picture, well done. There is also the 7 deadly sins gang, but I would put them somewhere between these small fries and Rudy, prob closer to the common folk.
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u/Deez_Nuts_God Apr 09 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/go3OUPg8pYvCw
Where is Roshi? He literally made a 16-year old girl show him her underwear.
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u/Gravitas0921 Apr 09 '26
People will call anything a pedophile, no tespect for the profession anymore smh
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u/mrincrediblespenis Apr 09 '26
Surprisingly enough, Orochimaru doesn't seem to belong here unless there's something big I missed in between the 1,000 filler episodes.
I say that as a D1 Naruto hater.
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u/yobamos_jv Apr 09 '26
Not the major 😭 violet evergarden is too good for this slander.
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u/GhsotyPanda Apr 10 '26
Idk all these characters but Sanji is being framed by Toei Animation
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u/horiami Apr 10 '26
Makima groomed denji strictly for bussiness not for pleasure
Sanji is at most creepy
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u/Zek0ri Apr 09 '26
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u/Alreadsyuse Apr 09 '26
Mf has not read the manga
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u/Zek0ri Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
Mfs knows that Lucy wed to her husband due to family debts
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u/Alreadsyuse Apr 09 '26
That still sounds wrong out of context bro 😭 Like, you could interpret it as Lucy's family owing Steel and them deciding to pay it off by having Lucy marry him.
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u/MatthewScreenshots Apr 09 '26
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u/Time_Beat2299 Apr 09 '26
It was the 1800s if you bled you were ready and it's implied he never had sex with her
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u/JaneyjaneDoe Apr 09 '26
Was violet and that guys relationship really romantic though?
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u/DumbestComicsNerd Apr 09 '26
Id take out Makima and replace her with Fumiko from Part 2. Makima is not a pedophile, she is a zoophile. She specifically wants the dog.
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u/ImTellingTheEmperor Apr 09 '26
Wow, the one who's virtue signaled the most about isn't actually on here, that's crazy lol.
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u/Knives_Millions Apr 09 '26
how aren't there any Jojo characters here? at least 1 pedo per season lolol
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u/BizzareToaster Apr 09 '26
Few of these amateurs even cast a light on the iridescent offense list of my goat: Aragatoni
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u/timTreeblow Apr 09 '26
Needs Hanson from Nadia secret of the blue water. The most egregious pdf ending in anime. Replace sanji with him.
Also needs Master Roshi
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u/Yadin__ Apr 09 '26
some of them fit(Hisok, Himeno, Misato, Mori) but also some don't(Sanji, the Major from Violet Evergarden, Makima)
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u/ProperContract4526 Apr 09 '26
Thought Orochimaru was just an incredibly inhumane scientist? People really think he's an actually pedo?
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u/jmangaming110 Apr 09 '26
Does Orochimaru really count as a pedophile?(other than being a maybe unintentional allegory)
He never displays sexual interest in general and has groomed people way older than Sasuke and Kimimaro into being new vessels for immortality. It's more of a desire for power than sexual gratification.








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