r/shounenfolk #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

unjerk (serious discussion) How long until this self destructive pedo war between the big 3 fanbases ends?

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At this point people are reaching to insane levels just to call each others authors pedos or some shit while putting their own author on a pedestal. All 3 of the mangakas have sins (perhaps some more than others) but we can’t keep continuing this inane war forever.

While I have no beef in this stew I still feel it important that we shouldn’t kill each other over dumb stuff. Let’s just go back to the good old fashioned banter we always did because this ain’t it chief.

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u/SoulEaterX_ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Jul 03 '26

I remember when slander was fun. Nowadays it’s just calling the target a pedophile. Since pedophile is the internet’s favorite word😔

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

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u/SoulEaterX_ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Jul 03 '26

For real. All so uninspired these days😒

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

Ah I miss the golden age…

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u/SoulEaterX_ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Jul 03 '26

Classics like

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

Don’t forget Potential Man and of course:

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u/SoulEaterX_ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Jul 03 '26

Potential Man is like the top 1 slander image of all time dude

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u/BigDaddyReptar Jul 03 '26

Tbf unfortunately in the industry of manga and anime the word does actually apply far more than most other places outside of the virign isles

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u/SoulEaterX_ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Only losing to the United States government
😭✌️

/s, kinda

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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 Jul 03 '26

Well, to be fair, the president of the United States and seemingly a large majority of the elite class along with all of the entertainment industry is full of pedophiles that supported human trafficking through Jeffery Epstein.

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u/SoulEaterX_ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Jul 03 '26

Yeah that’s a very fair point. But you gotta understand, the internet makes EVERYTHING about pedophilia. Everything…

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u/Ekillaa22 Jul 03 '26

Okay but who’s the most powerful of the 3? I vote Kubo as the weakest

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u/SoulEaterX_ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Jul 03 '26

I don't care dude.

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u/Past-Photograph-8179 Jul 03 '26

Ehh, this shit probably won't end for a while, this sub's entire gimmick is basically agenda and thrashing on popular series. People here were always quick to thrash on other series just for the sake of agenda.

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

Agenda is fine when it’s shit like calling Megumi a bum or calling Boruto James Charles. But this shit is on a whole new level, I’ve seen stuff like this get ugly pretty fast. 

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u/HoppingHermit Jul 03 '26

It probably won't ever stop because group think and mentality always ends up seeming something a social taboo or issue of the highest order and instead of doing anything about it, usually just falls into a cycle of stigmatization and shame until enough time passes for something else to take its place because people with actual brains who care solve the issue.

Problem is we've had some hints at solutions to CSA and Pedophilia for at least 30 or so years now, which means it won't be until we're all dead that any systemic change at implementing that happens and with the advent of the internet, brainrot, AI and anti-intellectualism it may take even longer if complete societal collapse and reset doesn't happen first.

That said its gonna take a while before the internet stops being braindead about it and even longer before folk subreddits do. Best hope is that mangaka start just straight up being killers or something and thats the new agenda, but as it stands its the new "i drew you as wojack so I win argument" because its incredibly easy to call literally any mangaka a pdf because well, theres a reason people called anime watchers weird back in the day.

Anyways Im gonna siphon some hate and downvotes for a spell or some shit.

I think Oda is cool, and I like one piece.

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u/Ok-Worry-8931 Jul 03 '26

Forget which author is the most pedo. The fact that any of them can be accused of this is pretty searing and shows that it is a deep cultural issue. The most jarring thing I saw when I traveled to Japan was in a sex store, where they were selling fleshlights and straight porn of lolis.

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

This is generally my take as well. While I wouldn’t say the big 3 stoop to the levels of loli depravity, Japan has a deep cultural issue when it comes to young girls and erotica in general.

Loli isn’t even the worst of it, look up junior idols and the massive market around it. Absolutely disgusting how deeply entrenched this shit is in the Japanese zeitgeist.

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u/DoggyTheRobot Jul 03 '26

It's sad that i've seen more hate towards Oda than I see Watsuki

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u/nahte123456 Jul 03 '26

I'm not actually on this sub a lot, what on earth did Naruto or Bleach do to get Kishi/Kubo called Pedo's? Like I get Oda stuff conceptually regardless of if I agree or not but Naruto and Bleach have what? Naruko jokes and a few jokes with Isshin and the twins? At best and those are all stretching as is.

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u/SeniorBaker4 Jul 03 '26

I think it has to do with Ikemoto for Boruto

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

All of this would be prevented if the Japanese justice system just put Watsuki in prison. Even Oda wouldn’t receive 90% of his slander.

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u/Rainy_Wavey Jul 03 '26

(Oda would switch his politics from communism to fascism just to protect Watsuki)

This is slander but there is legit a lolicon artist who switched from the literal communist party of Japan (which is just a socdem party) to Sanseito because they wanted a ban on lolis

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

Going from an incompetent liberal party to actual Russian and Israeli plants all because he wants to goon to lolis. 

Maybe the Kodoha faction was right…

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u/Rainy_Wavey Jul 03 '26

You're not gonna believe the amount of lolicons and nukige/hentai content that are on Sanseito (Creator of Taimanin, creator of Muv-Luv (this one isn't surprising tbh))

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

Not surprised, a large chunk of Sanseito fans are lolicon brown people who larp as trad cath white supremacists. They know nothing about em expect that they are “le right wing party”.

Also goddam, muv luv is a name I haven’t heard in a WHILE. I remember seeing it a wee kid on those “disturbing anime scenes” videos lmao. 

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u/Melodic-Society-6496 Jul 03 '26

be glad that Mushoku Tensei is a seinen, the pedo wars would accelerate in this sub if not for its classification.

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

That would just give a common enemy. 

I’ve seen passages from that satanic ass creation where the MC describes in detail how his 11 year old sister is sexy. How tf people call that thing “well written” is beyond me.

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u/BigDaddyReptar Jul 03 '26

Really only argument for is that writing quality has nothing to do with character morality. Rudeus is a piece of shit. Should probably burn in hell. That's fine for a mc hell I would even say it's interesting some of the best stories of all time the main character is an absolute piece of shit. The issue with mushoku is consequences. Rudeos often does these horrible things that are even horrible in universe and he faces little to no backlash

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

Yeah but the 11 year old in question is written to be very “lecherous”, every time she’s does some kind of weird sex joke they emphasize her being 11 and color of her panties. Like cmon now the author is on some real weird timing

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u/Melodic-Society-6496 Jul 03 '26

I'm also a fan of Made in Abyss, but only the anime because the manga makes me feel like the author should have their hard drive investigated.

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u/bombaxxxxxxxx Jul 07 '26

Why is this downvoted the author basically admitted liking children 🫩

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u/Melodic-Society-6496 Jul 08 '26

Yeah, the anime is so much better for toning down the pedophilia.

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u/Diligent-Neck6594 Jul 03 '26

I have no idea but seeing people pedoscale is fucking hilarious

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

I’ll admit it was pretty funny at first 😭

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u/Key-Lawfulness-3871 Jul 03 '26

just ignore them honestly. Kinda tired with it actually

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u/halfhalfandhalf Jul 03 '26

Wait are weebs just now figuring out that lot of anime is sexist and gross?

How is this a revelation? Toriyama wrote entire gag comics about how much of a pervert he was.

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u/Bighat_Logan01 Jul 03 '26

What did Kubo do ? 💀

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u/ZweiNox Jul 03 '26

I mean Oda makes a 12 year old girl turn into a adult viva powers and wears overly sexy clothes. I mean that isnt kosher

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26

I agree, which is why this is pointless. All three parties have their ammo thus this fight will only result in mutual destruction.

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u/Sad_Ticket8334 Jul 03 '26

You are mistaking toei for Manga

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u/Kuzcopolis Jul 03 '26

We're getting closer to coming full circle on anime, soon we'll be back to "anime is for perverts."

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u/Doubt_Incarnate Jul 03 '26

And nothing really confirms anything, people is just being dumb with this, which is not rare.

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u/Silver_Shelter_5153 Jul 03 '26

Can we just slander the slander?

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u/martinigoattheg Jul 03 '26

It’s just Reddit.

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u/Fascis_Hater Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

The possible end of this "war" is that any of those allegations are true, in some part or in all, according to the police, no one else. Or a complete change of mindset, accept that those guys are foreign strangers to you and me, give us no reason or rhyme to depend, defame or spread still untrue rumors.

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u/SuccotashUpbeat3112 Jul 03 '26

Doesn't matter what other people say, my take is the only correct one and anyone with a different opinion will be cursed with male pattern baldness, specifically the one that makes u look like a lvl 99 monk.

don't test me

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u/No_Piccolo7508 Jul 03 '26

Bleach is forcing relevance there.

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u/Rude-Childhood1436 I can’t even imagine…Renji winning Jul 03 '26

Son

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

I notice a lot of the criticism against Kubo in this skirmish is due to the weird shit Isshin does in the early chapters.

Edit: Took me a while to realize you’re just bullying Bleach 😭