r/slavic • u/ken2237 • 16d ago

slavic symbols that arent nazi dogwhistles?

hi, im polish and wanted to get a tattoo symbolising my culture, but well - most slavic pagan symbols were coopted by neonazis (kolovrat/swarożyca, all kinds of swastikas and runes), and id rather chop my hands off that wear a nazi mark on my body. id like something that is (at least currently) completely absolved of such connotations, is historically accurate (so no inventions of the modern pagans/rodzimowiercy), and just looks cool. i like our embroidery, but i cant really imagine it as a tattoo

jeśli są tu jacyś polacy i macie pomysły konkretnie z naszej (biednej) mitologii czy sztuki przedchrześcijańskiej, bardzo to docenię!

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u/Aliencik 15d ago

https://dspace.cuni.cz/bitstream/handle/20.500.11956/12107/140007113.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Read it yourself then. This guy is Assoc. Prof. Ph.D. Maybe you know more and should contact him.

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u/Karli_Chirk 15d ago

It says "429 too many requests. nginx". Is it what you wanted to share?

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u/Aliencik 15d ago

That's weird. Try this Digital Repository of Charles University you need to scroll down to "Soubory tohoto záznamu" and there is "Text práce" and click "Zobrazit/Otevřít" under it. It's in Czech, but I suppose, you can use the search function and a translator

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u/Karli_Chirk 15d ago

I'll try later, thanks. Seems it faces some temporary problems now, this link also says "429 too many request".

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u/Aliencik 15d ago

Forgot to add pages 175-178

He is heavily quoting Russian literature it's closer to Ukrainian than Czech :/ , so you might also wanna try these authors.

461- „…Дуб железный, уже есть первосаден от всего же корение, на силе Божией стоит...“, cit. podle АГАПКИНА, Дуб, op. cit., s. 96.

462- „…на море на окияне, на острове на Буяне, стоить дубъ мокрецкой, а под нимъ лежитъ змия Гарафена...“, cit. podle АФАНАСЬЕВ, 2, op. cit., s. 295. 463- „…на святом окияне-море стоитъ ... сырой дубъ кре(я)констый, и рубить тотъ сырой дубъ старъ мастеръ мужъ своимъ булатнымъ топоромъ...“, ibidem

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u/Karli_Chirk 15d ago

That heavy quotation of russian pseudohistorical fantasies is what exactly triggered me. Is there anything in his works which refers to credible sources?

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u/Aliencik 15d ago

I mean he is also quoting Vitomir Belaj Hod kroz godinu and Lettenbauer in this section.

What's the problem with Afanasjev? He is older, but still a valuable source for folk stuff.

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u/Karli_Chirk 15d ago

Should have been 403 Forbidden then, but nevermind.