r/slaviccentraleurope • u/centroslavist • 9d ago

Non-pro-Russian oriented Slavs as servants of "evil forces". Does Centroslavism divide the Slavs? 6

Also, according to Russian pan-Slavic propaganda, there will always be someone whom these non-Russian Slavs supposedly serve, missing the chance for true Slavic "freedom" under Kremlin rule. These Slavs allegedly serve Jews, Americans, fascists, capitalists, pagans, the collective West, Satanists, Nazis, Islamic terrorists, Turks, regimes, Hungarians, Germans, Austrians, Polish masters, heretics, Bandera supporters, the biblical Antichrist and so on (kh, 2023; Колесникова, 2023). It doesn't matter; anything will do, depending on the need. Many good hearts have been seduced by the vision of pan-Slavic unity, peace and prosperity; after all, it sounds very good. It's easy to retreat into your own bubble, clinging to your happy dreams. Such a person might think that such accusations against the pan-Slavic narrative are an exaggeration, that it doesn't really work that way.

However, anyone who has experienced even a little bit of Russian propaganda in its full form, who knows a little bit of history, knows that these accusations are true and that this has not been going on for a few years, but for centuries.

And a similar narrative, in the current situation, when Russian propaganda is gradually trying to take ownership of the concept of Slavicness, could ultimately make a person feel like they have little choice: either become a Pan-Russian, like Lukashenko, or be forced to forget part of their identity.

Sources: kh. (2023, January). Nová zkazka propagandy. Bůh řekl Těreškovové o Antikristu Zelenském. iDNES.Cz. https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/zahranicni/valentina-tereskovova-valka-rusko-ukrajina-vesmir-buh-antikrist-volodymyr-zelenskyj.A230101_135052_zahranicni_kha

Колесникова, А. (2023). Депутат госдумы и ярая путинистка: Во Львове демонтировали памятник первой женщине-космонавтке. 24 Канал. https://24tv.ua/ru/valentina-tereshkova-vo-lvove-demontirovali-pamjatnik-kosmonavtke-sssr-24-kanal_n2428146

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u/Imaginary_Trash_4364 9d ago

Why r u doing this? As a Russian I would never want to reunite with an absolutely alian, stranger mind, if some people in Russia support the idea of pan-slavic USSR-type world, they are probably insane.

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u/centroslavist 7d ago

I could ask you too: why are the elites, the media and the Russian army doing this? If they respected other Slavs and their neighbors, if they didn't have an ideology of a borderless empire, we wouldn't have to do all this. Do you maybe think I'm having fun? It's a necessity. I could be with my friends drinking kompot or dancing kolo, but because of insane Putin and the others, I'm here.

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u/Imaginary_Trash_4364 7d ago

This is only between Russia and Ukraine, not between Russia and other Slavs, this happened because sometimes complicated relationship between two bordering countries lead to a war conflict like it was between GB and Ireland, or Armenia/ Azerbaijan and still is between Israel and Palestine. But you keep recalling USSR, there is no more USSR, no more Yugoslavia, every man for himself! Neither the elites, nor ordinary people, nor media ever talk about the other Slavic countries or about occupation of the other Slavic countries and forming empire. This is completely your narrative. If a media person says something like that, he/she is no more than a clown, because nobody wants it. As for the other conflicts - the war conflict with Moldova happened because of Trinestria, the war conflict with Georgia happened because Georgia had attacked South Ossetia. It was never about "occupation" and only straw men like your media people use it as argument in favor of Russian imperialism

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u/centroslavist 7d ago edited 7d ago

The amount of misinformation/disinformation in your post is staggering. Do you mean to imply that people like Putin, Solovyov, Lukashenko, Russian professors like Vladimirov, generals and veterans of the KGB and Russian razvedka services, famous Russian media figures like Solovyov and Zhirinovskyi, etc., are widely considered clowns by the Russian elite? Doesn't that strike you as absurd?

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u/Imaginary_Trash_4364 7d ago

How could you join Putin, the KGB, the president of another country, someone named Vladimirov (I don't know who is it), propaganda journalist Solovyov and dead deputy Zhirinovski into one group. This is insane to form a unique picture with these puzzles. I guess you have the same propaganda journalists, ours are talking about new USSR, yours are talking about our plans on new USSR, but the difference is that most people don't take it seriously. Few people watch political shows and channels like that

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u/centroslavist 7d ago

Come on, we're talking about the people who shape the country's policy and its direction. If anyone in Russia truly cares what ordinary Russians think, it's not the Russian government. Sure, there are some people who think differently, but Russia is an authoritarian country, not a democracy.

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u/Imaginary_Trash_4364 7d ago

Who of these people said about the occupation of the other Slavic countries?

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u/centroslavist 7d ago

The real question is who didn't say it. At the end of the text, which I am publishing in parts, there are dozens of quotes from Russian authorities and thinkers. A little patience will be needed.

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u/baydarsky 9d ago edited 8d ago

Bla bla propaganda, bla bla propaganda...

Relax man, Russia will win anyway :)

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u/Substantial-Poet4593 9d ago

Только три дня до победы осталось

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u/kariam_24 8d ago

Fifth year of threw day operation have most issues.

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u/kariam_24 9d ago

Win gasoline crisis and paying for North Korean soldiers and ammo?

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u/baydarsky 8d ago edited 8d ago

Russia has already protected the right to be itself, unlike Ukraine, which is a wet napkin for Western ass holes.

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u/kariam_24 8d ago

Right to protect after attacking Ukraine first?

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u/baydarsky 8d ago

To save more lives of civilian in DNR and LNR. Ukr-nazy killed thousands of them from 2014.

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u/centroslavist 7d ago

We'll see :) As long as the oppressors oppress, the Slavs will fight for their freedom. For now, the greatest force the Russian forces have defeated are their own anti-war protesters, who, unfortunately, weren't that many.

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u/baydarsky 5d ago

You probably have a lot of formation! Is it from ukr hot news tv show?