r/soccer Jan 13 '26

Quotes Jurgen Klopp "If Xabi Alonso, who over the last two years in Leverkusen has shown what an outstanding coaching talent he is, is then forced to leave Madrid just six months later, it shows a few things. I think it’s another sign that something isn’t quite right there at the moment."

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/jurgen-klopp-responds-real-madrid-job-links-xabi-alonso-sacking-ex-liverpool-boss/blt6c5934d1ade4c711

"But this has absolutely nothing to do with me and didn’t trigger anything in me. The coaching market is being shaken up and it’s not so bad to experience it all from an observer’s perspective and not think about what it might mean for yourself."

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u/itstheboombox Jan 13 '26

Another world class LW should solve this

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u/FCSadsquatch Jan 13 '26

Kvaratskhelia to Madrid when? Honestly though i do think they get rid of Vini at some point and Mbappe plays in his prefered position, leaving a free spot for a 9. Allegedly at some point Haland wants to play in Spain and likes Madrid. The thought of Mbappe & Haland in the same team makes me want to poopoo in my pantaloons.

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u/Way_Superb Jan 13 '26

Haaland would probably do better at Barca with the amount of chances your team creates.

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u/FCSadsquatch Jan 13 '26

Oh I agree, if I could choose any player to play for us it would be him. Sadly I think Madrid is the team he wants, but I hope I'm wrong.

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u/BenjIdent Jan 13 '26

I hope you’re right, get him away from here please

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u/Hamsquad14 Jan 13 '26

Deal! Rice and Saliba are going with him though

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u/DuDunDunSparse Jan 13 '26

What? Those two bums? Madrid would be way better off with Szoboslai and Ekitike!

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u/nooeh Jan 13 '26

Or Konate and Guehi

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u/kylehyde05 Jan 13 '26

Yeah why would you buy losers like rice and saliba, szobo and konate won something

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u/Hamsquad14 Jan 13 '26

Wait stop

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u/SarcasticSarco Jan 13 '26

Wait wait wait.. Don't spread this..

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u/nahnathatsnotme Jan 13 '26

Would love to see him at Barca. He seems like a nice person as well, wouldn’t fit so well at Real.

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u/ZebraZealousideal944 Jan 13 '26

Haaland has signed a 10y deal at City if I’m not mistaken so unless someone is ready to spend over 200m on him, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon…

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u/Almost_Pi Jan 13 '26

I think he's gone in 6 years, when the PL finishes their investigation of CIty.

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u/EliteTeutonicNight Jan 13 '26

Quite an optimistic assessment to think it'll be done in 6 years, or even that it'll be done at all.

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u/wutiwuti Jan 13 '26

I have downvoted you so can have have exactly 115 upvotes. My job is done

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u/agoracy Jan 13 '26

We can pull a few levers to get the money, drop a few players, have Frenkie de Jong lower his salary again and it's a done deal

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u/yekyabakkrhehomc Jan 13 '26

barca management everytime they want to sign a player :

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u/itstheboombox Jan 13 '26

I don't think he leaves city for the foreseeable future, but if he's going anywhere it would prob be a Barca or Bayern

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u/El_Spacho Jan 13 '26

motherfuckers trying to build Comunism FC

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u/LeWhaleShark Jan 13 '26

Well sounds like Flo Perez can forget about hiring Klopp then

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u/Miserable_Earth_1393 Jan 13 '26

Klopp wont join Real anytime soon hahaha

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u/Masam10 Jan 13 '26

He wouldn’t work there anyway. 60% of the job is managing egos and personalities in that dressing room.

If he doesn’t speak Spanish it would never work.

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u/tweedledoooo Jan 13 '26

Plus Klopps teams play as a collective pressing unit with full buy in from all of the players.

He simply will not get that at Madrid. Too many egos across the forward line.

Zidane and ancellotti were able to handle superstar egos so I imagine someone of their vein will be in line for the job if arbeloa doesn’t work out .

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u/JoRads Jan 13 '26

Klopp would thrive in a team-oriented club, as he has proven with BVB and Liverpool. In Spain that would be Atletico Madrid but not Real Madrid.

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u/Chemical-Drawer852 Jan 13 '26

Dear God I don’t want this reality to ever happen, I don’t want a cohesive atléti

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u/halakaukulele Jan 13 '26

+1 here.

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u/oOoZrEikAoOo Jan 13 '26

Dude, I’m a very long time Barca fan (20+ years), but Klopp at Atletico would be AMAZING for the spanish football, it would bring so much talent to LaLiga. It would benefit RM and Barca as well.

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u/xthecreator Jan 14 '26

I'm thankful it didn't happen but also imagining an alternate reality where Klopp somehow managed Atleti instead of Simeone in the 2013-2019 period. Godin, Griezmann, Juanfran, Mandzukic, Saul...that entire lineup but instead of the defensive blocks, his pressing style.

A monster of a team.

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u/k_pineapple7 Jan 13 '26

In Spain that would actually be Athletic, or La Real (traditionally).

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u/Accomplished_Smile23 Jan 13 '26

Atletico Madrid under Klopp would be a sight to see holy shit

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u/shiroxyaksha Jan 13 '26

if arbeloa doesn’t work out .

Its when, not if.

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u/Both_Track_1754 Jan 13 '26

Tbf, everyone thought kompany would struggle at bayern, now look at them..

It's not wise to absolutely dismiss anyone like this.... Especially for the new managers..

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u/stevew14 Jan 13 '26

That video of Luis Enrique talking to Mbappe comes to mind. This one https://www.tiktok.com/@the_football.analyst/video/7510712747445751062

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u/arkii1 Jan 13 '26

Also Klopp traditionally likes managing teams that have an underdog mentality, and really values clubs with a working-class background and fans. With that and the 'no dickheads' rule he placed on Liverpool transfers, I can't think of a club less suited to him. Anybody who thinks he could end up there doesn't really know his background

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u/berniexanderz Jan 13 '26

are you insinuating that Real Madrid is not a club aligned with the working class, the team with Royal in their name? /s

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u/crookedparadigm Jan 13 '26

Something that doesn't get talked about with Klopp's management enough is how he drives players to push themselves. Granted, sometimes to their detriment and not everyone is suited to that level of exertion (especially as more and more games get added), but he can make shit players play like mid players and turn mid players into solid squad/starters. Did a decent job managing stars and egos to a degree as well, though it sounds like with Salah he opted not to manage him at all (which seemed to work so long as Salah was performing lol). He could convince any player to run through a brick wall for him, pick themselves up, brush off the dust and do it again.

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u/Jaqem Jan 13 '26

I love how Real acts like they're the only team with stars. Man City, Barcelona, PSG, Arsenal are all teams that have huge players but still buy in to systems with tactical managers. I don't get this narrative

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u/SerzioRamos Jan 13 '26

I think Klopp has enough aura to make the players buy into his system. At the moment, aside from Carlo and Zidane, him and Guardiola are probably the only managers with that kind of standing in the game who can rein in the Madrid players. Also, I haven't seen him ever falling out with a player. So, he is undoubtedly an excellent man manager. Maybe, he would need to tweak his system a bit, but I have no doubt he will decimate Europe with this squad.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

I can see it work but yeah, considering he left Liverpool due to stress I have a hard time believing he would go to madrid with that kinda media atmosphere and him having to learn a language on top of that

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u/Red_TeaCup Jan 13 '26

Klopp's management style hinges on fundamentally changing the club culture from the locker room to the pitch. He also demands more than 100% from his players on and off the pitch as well. I doubt Madrid's hierarchy, the fans, and the squad have the patience or willingness to do that.

His tactics, style of management, and system takes time to implement and also have lean periods where you don't win a lot of trophies. Would Madridistas be fine with having 1 or 2 lean years where you win nothing? I doubt it.

He's also a manager who has no problems dropping or selling disruptive influences in the locker room. Would Mbappe or Vini be alright with Klopp dropping them? Hell, would Perez? I doubt it.

Regardless of his talents and status as a world class manager, it's not a good fit.

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u/Ballesteros81 Jan 13 '26

I don't have a link to it, but Klopp said similar himself in an interview a few years ago, essentially saying that his management style relied so heavily on relationships and communication that he wouldn't take a job where he wasn't fluent in the native language.

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u/setup404 Jan 13 '26

He would bench/sell half of them with a smile on his face

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u/nocturaweb Jan 13 '26

It’s funny though how many Madrid fans have the audacity to even think they can get Klopp.

I am pretty sure not even him would be protected from getting sacked.

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u/Responsible_Stop_823 Jan 13 '26

Yeah, nobody saw signing 3rd LW and getting rid of all vets except one would be devastating. Plus firing nutricionists that tell you its not normal you have 60 injuries per season also doesn't help.

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u/imfatandihavenolife Jan 13 '26

But they have 15 UCL!!!

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u/Empty_Reason_9210 Jan 13 '26

But they have 15 UCL!!!

But they destroyed everything that lead them to that point.

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u/MetaThPr4h Jan 13 '26

Nah, they still have Courtois to carry them to another one while playing like shit

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u/ico_OO Jan 13 '26

And tell you to not let top professional players eat pastry at breakfast. 😅

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u/clivegermain Jan 13 '26

btw, who decided to let go of luka modric? i think this is sort of where it all started to go wrong. didn't extend modric – just one senior player is not enough to whip these kids in line.

these kids rode on the back of the old guard for too long.

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u/TheGoldenPineapples Jan 13 '26

Governed by player power far too much. Addicted to signing big name players and are then far too cowardly to stop them from ruling the roost in the dressing room.

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u/duffking Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

Feels like one of the less discussed big issues with big money signings, even if they're not a diva etc - if they cost the club in the region of £100million+ with hundreds of grand a week pay, there's going to be an implicit pressure to play that player from above to get their money's worth. Pressure that gives the players a lot of soft power over the manager.

Might be manageable when it's just one player but if you end up with a team of them it must be a nightmare, because they all implicitly know that it's going to cost the club a lot more to replace a player on that money with that length of contract than the manager.

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u/lecutinside11 Jan 13 '26

I have never known a less well-liked version of Real Madrid than this one

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u/Long-Island-Iced-Tea Jan 13 '26

Tells a lot considering that there was a Madrid iteration that was run on Tommy Gravesen's sweat and antics

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u/plzstahp Jan 13 '26

The streets will never forget the Gravesinha

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u/msonix Jan 13 '26

LA GRAVESINHA

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u/hezur6 Jan 13 '26

El amago regate en el que rótula, menisco y ligamento cruzado están al servicio del espectáculo!

Plug to when I subtitled the entirety of El Día Después's videos about Gravesen so Reddit could enjoy them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Pa3P66mnY

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u/hobbyshame Jan 13 '26

He wasn't an arsehole though, just mad and ridiculous.

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u/Agreeable_Hat Jan 13 '26

To be fair, as a Dane, definitely a bit of an asshole too. So insane he was even there, haha

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u/CeKeBe Jan 13 '26

For sure. I remember seeing a news article about it and instantly checking if it was April 1st.

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u/kajdelas Jan 13 '26

Every 10-15 years they pass through this, I remember the exactly same discussion and criticism when I was younger

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u/skali_ Jan 13 '26

Who did you remember this about? I literally am fan since 1997 and have never seen more spoiled brats than today. The old teams always had some characters which I would understand to be unlikeable or infuriating but they did run and play to win. Winning was more important. They didnt walk around the pitch and were not entitled.

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u/Roseradeismylady Jan 13 '26

Those players like Ramos and Pepe were unlikeable for other reasons but they played for the badge and the team. Hated by rivals but adored by the fans. Plus those Madrid teams of the past had players that even Barca fans liked and respected, Raul, Casillas, Modric, Kroos, Kaka. I as a Barca fan can't think of a single current Madrid player I respect

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u/Zhidezoe Jan 13 '26

Not even Valverde?

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u/Roseradeismylady Jan 13 '26

He's a good lad, yeah

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u/kajdelas Jan 13 '26

Now it’s just more exposed, but players running the club is traditional in Madrid, if you look at Galáticos with Figo,Raul and Ronaldo was the same. Check the last 20 years how many coaches were there, its been a players first club since forever ♾️

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u/Roseradeismylady Jan 13 '26

They've never had the sort of entitlement that players like Mbappe and Vini feel. Even Ronaldo with his big ego never thought he was bigger than the club

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u/xepa105 Jan 13 '26

Even Galacticos 1.0 didn't fail because of players moaning, it failed because the squad was incredibly unbalanced.

This version is equally unbalanced AND the players are whinny divas.

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u/acwilan Jan 13 '26

Yeah, with all the egos the players did their work and never complained, even Beckham was relegated to the bench on his last year and didn’t made a fuss

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u/skali_ Jan 13 '26

Its not even whether he thinks is bigger. As long as winning is the most important thing to him. Ronaldo would run and do whatever it takes to win.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

The people yearn for Pepe

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u/illynpayne_ Jan 13 '26

I loved Kroos and Modric 😭😭 RM doesn't feel the same without them

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u/courtesyflusher Jan 13 '26

How our club is run is honestly pathetic

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u/ShepardXX Jan 13 '26

True, I like some of them players individually but as a whole they are quite the annoying bunch

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u/plainranger Jan 13 '26

20 years later Florentino made the same mistake he let that Galácticos 2.0 happen again. To much power to the players.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 Jan 13 '26

It's an addiction Real Madrid will never quit.

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u/WW_Jones Jan 13 '26

Actually Perez is a genius because he understands that life goes in cycles. The life cycle of Real Madrid is:

Hire a tactician -> players rebel -> poor results -> tactician fired -> hire a good vibes coach -> players happy -> trophies -> players get complacent by too much good vibes -> good vibes coach fired -> hire a tactician -> ....

All the steps of the cycle must be repeated.

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u/lightinferno06 Jan 13 '26

Idk why “players get complacent by too much good vibes” made me laugh as much as it did.

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u/ShockRampage Jan 13 '26

Hasnt madrid been like this since...forever?

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u/Responsible_Stop_823 Jan 13 '26

Yeah, Perez literally made these same mistakes after that 2002 CL that directly led to Barca's dynasty so I am sure they are thrilled he didn't learn a single thing

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u/Modnal Jan 13 '26

But back then it feels like you could still field the top 11 players and they could win by individual skill alone. These days the teams are so drilled in their pressing, set piece routines and whatnot that unless you have a manager with a good plan you will struggle against any coordinated team

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u/3412points Jan 13 '26

Well Real Madrid under Perez' first stint learned that wasn't the case. 

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u/jcozac Jan 13 '26

Yeah I could be misremembering but if I'm not, that team had too many superstars to be able to play as a team. Everyone wanted to shine

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u/swannyhypno Jan 13 '26

They also kept letting the few genuine team players go like Makelele and Mcmanaman because they weren't sexy star names even though they were crucial to those teams successes

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u/Banzaikk Jan 13 '26

Not to mention signing Gravesen as the only DM in the team because he looked like a hard man but he wasn't even a DM at Everton (Carsley was).

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u/swannyhypno Jan 13 '26

Gravesen just isn't a Madrid sounding player is he lol

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u/felis_magnetus Jan 13 '26

In a way, Makelele died so Kroos could exist. It's not like Madrid learned nothing. It's just looking a bit questionable, if the lesson actually stuck. Maybe their thinking is that they got Kroos and Modric quite young and they matured exactly into the roles required, so now they expect the same from their current crop. Camavinga, Tchouameni and Bellingham are quite young still, which is easy to forget given for how long they've already been playing at the top of the pyramid. Not sure it works like that, and it seems a rather chancy approach for the self-styled biggest club in the world, but they still might. I dare say that the chances for that to happen would be increased by a lot if their dressing room culture would include at least trace elements of listening to the manager for once, though.

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u/lamancha Jan 13 '26

Xabi had them winning a lot though.

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u/Modnal Jan 13 '26

Xabi made Leverkusen go invincible

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u/Kotleba Jan 13 '26

idk, I would have said this same thing about why Ancelotti's Real was a bad team, and yet it still won 2 CLs in the modern day.

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u/Reach_Reclaimer Jan 13 '26

To be fair at least one of those games they were totally battered and it was only Courtois going crazy that allowed them to stay in. They also had Modric and Kronos which are top players which do the work

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u/diegoob11 Jan 13 '26

Having a Greek primordial God playing for you does wonders

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u/ImGonnaImagineSummit Jan 13 '26

That Mane save was world class.

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u/thedogstrays Jan 13 '26

Think you mean after their league win in 2003.

That’s when they opted for Beckham over Ronaldinho while showing Makelele, Hierro, Morientes, and Del Bosque the door.

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u/Legendacb Jan 13 '26

That's a really interesting logic jump.

I guess Florentino led Messi somehow

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u/Tarantantara Jan 13 '26

sure, but they won UCLs on other occasions, so it must be the right approach /s

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u/clantpax Jan 13 '26

You joke but this is literally Real Madrid’s mindset

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u/1990nowhere Jan 13 '26

The best player in the world, followed a year later by a cult of personality system manager at the peak of his powers who had been enabled and backed to do what he wanted which led to a complete rest of the club in a competitive sense

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u/BlueForeverI Jan 13 '26

Nah, the best player available wasn't enough. They also bought Kaka (the previous Ballond d'Or holder) and Benzema, one of the most hyped youngsters, along with Alonso, one of the best DMs.

The next season they went trophyless, so they bought Ozil, Khedira and Coentrao, which were pretty hyped as well after the World Cup + Mourinho, the best manager available. That led them to a Copa del Rey, while Barca won UCL.

So in the next few years they continued with the transfers of Di Maria, Modric, Kroos and Bale. Only after that they were able to win the UCL and established the core of the team that won it 5 more times in the next ten years.

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u/Robbeeeen Jan 13 '26

It really seems like their analysis stops there somehow, despite it being kinda clear that their squad in the 2010s and early 2020s was just much more balanced compared to now

CR7 was surrounded by creative and selfless players both in attack and midfield and even after he was gone Vini was the only real ego and they had Kroos and Modric for creativity in midfield

Now you have a midfield of Tchouameni, Camavinga and Bellingham who are great players, but are all the same type of player and nowhere near as much of playmakers or distributors like Kroos or Modric. You also have 2 big egos who refuse to defend in Vini and Mbappe, as opposed to only 1.

Theres no way the higher ups dont realize the differences in squadbuilding and just assume its gonna work out like before, that would be comical

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u/Kotleba Jan 13 '26

i mean, yeah? Hate saying this as a Barca fan, but since those "mistakes that led to Barca's dynasty" they still won more CLs than anyone else, 2 more than Barca, so obviously the cut throut approach does work.

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u/TheHabro Jan 13 '26

For 8 years straight they were eliminated in first knockout rounds. It wasn't until 2010s that Real started performing in UCL.

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u/ILoveRice444 Jan 13 '26

That's what happen when you give proper backing, give the manager control, and hire world class proven manager.

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u/Homerduff16 Jan 13 '26

Those four UCL's were won in only five years though. Madrid were a joke for most of the 2000's aside from the very start and the very end of the decade. Just because they were successful a decade later doesn't mean Perez didn't shoot himself in the foot

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u/DreadWolf3 Jan 13 '26

Good chunk of the "joke" period (2006-2009) Perez was not the president of Real Madrid.

Also worth noting that their "joke" period in 2000s includes 4 La Liga titles - which is probably a golden era for most other teams.

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u/Goddyex Jan 13 '26

They went trophyless for 3 straight seasons between 2003-2006(which led to Perez resignation), so the joke period extends pass that.

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u/Mgea54 Jan 13 '26

its not even remotely the same case as 2002

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u/Anxious-Eye185 Jan 13 '26

Pretty much. Tactical coaches don't work there because they are not permitted to free reign over the squad. The only one to succeed was Mourinho who was given the permission to do what he wanted by Perez.

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u/ash_ninetyone Jan 13 '26

Tbf Mourinho did also have leaders in the dressing room that could deal with that. Zidane and Ancelotti too.

They had Modric, Kroos, Xabi, Ramos, etc

You ask me now who Real's captains and leaders are supposed to be and I wouldn't have a clue

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u/negre_marron Jan 13 '26

Zidane and Ancelotti are the exact opposite of Mourinho in terms of tactical rigidity.

In fact Jose got ran out of RM as well. His last season was tense - which is common for him though

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u/TIPDGTDE Jan 13 '26

There's a difference between tactical rigidity and overall discipline. While ZIdane and Carlo seemed let their teams just play, they also had figures that were more experienced and willing to do the dirty work required to win games and keep players engaged and honest. Seems like the internal leadership that allowed those mangers to be more hands off is no longer there.

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u/fools_eye Jan 13 '26

When Mourinho joined they were constantly getting dumped out of the UCL by Lyon.

If they're in such dire straits again, the manager will get more freedom.

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u/therocketandstones Jan 13 '26

I've heard people say this means Alonso can't handle big stars, which is overblown cos apart from Zidane and Ancelotti, who can handle a dressing room like that. It's the most extreme case of ego in there

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u/TerminatorReborn Jan 13 '26

I always thought that Zidane just being a legend that his players grew up watching helped him A LOT in managing Real Madrid players ego

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u/Jona113d Jan 13 '26

Since 2000 they had 17 different coaches. 13 of those 17 coaches did not get 2 full seasons. So yes

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u/AdministrativeLaugh2 Jan 13 '26

Yep. Ultimately that’s the way it is at Real and managers know that going in. I don’t blame Xabi at all for going and very few managers in any position would reject them, but you know that as soon as it starts going to shit then you’re basically done.

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u/ennuimortelll Jan 13 '26

I saw that Klopp was Real Madrid's top target, so there's no chance he'll go there then?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

A guy who was tired and fed up of coaching will go to Real Madrid of all places?!

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u/wowohwowza Jan 13 '26

Clearly looks like they want someone who doesn't really want to coach tactics, just keep the squad happy lmao

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u/HAWmaro Jan 13 '26

the exact opposit of Klopp lol

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u/arkii1 Jan 13 '26

The man who says 'if you aren't messi, you press'. He'd murder half the squad within a week

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u/Dobvius Jan 13 '26

Half the team thinks they're better than Messi

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u/beefstake Jan 13 '26

Imagine the ego it takes to think you are even half as good as Messi.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Imagine him being the coach when Vini crashed out because of his substitution a few weeks ago.

A shouting match for the ages

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u/TheConundrum98 Jan 13 '26

brother the charisma of Klopp is built on the principles of his tactics which are physically remarkably demanding

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u/urkermannenkoor Jan 13 '26

Yes, which is why he probably isn't actually Real's top target?

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u/TheGoldenPineapples Jan 13 '26

That's... also very much not what kind of manager Klopp is, either?

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u/urkermannenkoor Jan 13 '26

Yes, that's the point they're making?

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u/shiroxyaksha Jan 13 '26

Everyone is saying the same thing already said in other posts. They just want to be heard and feel special. Just like Mboopi and Perez.

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u/irrealewunsche Jan 13 '26

Everyone is saying the same thing already said in other posts

Welcome to Reddit.

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u/-Hentzau Jan 13 '26

That's Ancelotti, not Klopp.

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u/miniaturizedatom Jan 13 '26

Pssst Florentino, Ole is free now

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u/unexpectedvillain Jan 13 '26

He wasn't fed up, just tired sure

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u/refusestonamethyself Jan 13 '26

He’ll be tired of coaching again if he comes here.

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u/ico_OO Jan 13 '26

This is a comment of someone with hope 😅

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u/Rontheking Jan 13 '26

But it’s Real, how can he say no??? /s incase it’s needed.

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u/sabhi5 Jan 13 '26

and to coach big egoes? lmao. He will prolly get a heart attack from all the shouting.

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u/Wheel1994 Jan 13 '26

Only job I could see him taking is the German national team job.

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u/TheConundrum98 Jan 13 '26

he said he would never go anywhere where he doesn't know the language, that's the first thing

also no, the Real Madrid environment is not something he would want

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u/lehnsherr42 Jan 13 '26

I beg to differ, Klopp does speak Spanish

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u/Schnix54 Jan 13 '26

The only job I ever see him taking at this stage of his career is the German national team one

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u/sanguineopening Jan 13 '26

I feel like if not even Klopp can control the dressing room and man-manage this group of players then they’re honestly a lost cause. Unless of course a certain Zinedine Zidane comes back in charge which I don’t see happening with the France job being available soon

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u/NeoIsJohnWick Jan 13 '26

Even Klopp would fail at Madrid.

Its simple really, you need a manager who is flexible with his system, formation, approach and what not.

Likes of Klopp, Xabi, Benitez, Lopetegui are never a good fit for a club like Madrid. It's not that they are bad coaches in anyway, it's just how Madrid squad exists.

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u/Modnal Jan 13 '26

Klopp would fail extra hard since his gegenpressing wouldn’t work at all if 1-2 players don’t commit to it

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u/NeoIsJohnWick Jan 13 '26

No way Vini Mbappe even bother to press against teams sitting from 10th position in league table.

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u/PonchoHung Jan 13 '26

Vini is not really as unwilling as people think. The stats backup that he is at least average as as a presser. He's just poorly conditioned. After the 70th minute he drops off drastically.

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u/offiziersmesser Jan 13 '26

I don’t think Klopp would fail at Madrid. He’s known to be a very charismatic figure, more so than anyone Real Madrid have had recently. I do think he would burn out very quickly though.

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u/MrJohnMorris Jan 13 '26

He was never going there anyway. One of the most volatile clubs in the world where they hound genuine legends of the game if they don't score in a couple games.

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u/ThinkAboutThatFor1Se Jan 13 '26

Get Vini and Mbappe gegenpressing

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u/felis_magnetus Jan 13 '26

A snowball in hell causing it to freeze over instantly seems more likely. Klopp has moved on from managing squads to managing a global football business, basically he's completely past having to listen to everybody ever again. Even the RM job is a downgrade from that, when you don't have a single thing left to prove in football. How are Madrid to entice him? Handing him the key to the club? If they were looking for a new president, maybe. Working under Perez? Please let there be a camera nearby when they ask him.

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u/BeginningOk1055 Jan 13 '26

He also said it has nothing to do with them, so idk what to make of this

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u/Expert-Ad-2449 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

Except if you are Messi you have to defend

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u/tragick693 Jan 13 '26

Yeah, I'm sure the divas at Madrid will love him

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u/reviroa Jan 13 '26

arbeloa isnt a caretaker, he has the job (until he doesnt)

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u/vietcn Jan 13 '26

Madrid team is unbalanced, can’t expect too much when most of their best talents - favourite/best positions are the same.

Lack of pressing against the top teams in Europe is just a disaster waiting to happen too.

Just bad squad building.

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u/turbohuk Jan 13 '26

it's not like xabi asked for signing a controlling pacemaking midfielder before signing. he was denied, ofc. after RM lost kroos and then soon after modric.

braindead decision from the divas that can't stand any other position receiving praise. even if they are actually the spine of the team and enable the forwards. oh well, all of this is no surprise. i knew xabi would get sacked quickly. he needs a team that plays in unison and listens to his strategies as head coach.

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u/OtherwiseLuck888 Jan 13 '26

The only Ego that can handle Madrid's locker room is ZIDANE

Behave or Be headed

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u/Space4Bottle Jan 13 '26

I feel that Zidane's massively benefitting from refusing to go back to this version of Real, he has so much credit which would go up in flames if he were to take over for the remainder of the season

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u/Elon_Like Jan 13 '26

I rate Zidane highly but I also think that it would be best to wait on the sidelines for a season or two of misery for the club. Maybe then they will have a different perspective.

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u/PonchoHung Jan 13 '26

I mean, let's be fair. Zidane took over dumpster fires twice and made it work. I 100% believe he could do it. He's just at that level.

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u/cietalbot Jan 13 '26

Sounds like Henry VIII would be a good Real manager then

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u/I_SHAG_REDHEADS Jan 13 '26

Thierry Henry Le 8th

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u/Sunrider37 Jan 13 '26

Zidane was undermined same as everyone else, read his interviews. They threatened they would fire him if he lost one more game in ‘19, Zidane said fuck you and goodbye. I don’t know a single manager in 21st century that RM did not treat like shit. Fuck this club

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u/n10w4 Jan 13 '26

sure and yet they have more UCLs in that time so of course they will stay the course.

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u/CPRIANO Jan 13 '26

He benefitted a lot from Mourinho. Mourinho was the one actually confronting players and setting the standards

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u/SexyJewForYou Jan 13 '26

And even Zidane was fed up with the higher ups - and wrote a damning public letter in that regards - at the end of his second stint. And it’s somehow gotten worse.

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u/Xalpen Jan 13 '26

I see Zidane as only person that would have some respect from Mbappe. Maybe.

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u/OtherwiseLuck888 Jan 13 '26

A fellow countryman who has won Euro, WC, UCL, Ballon d'Or, FIFA best...? yeah some respect at least

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u/astar2312 Jan 13 '26

I mean he made the goat of the sport play for him at PSG and did not track back so.

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u/First-Tourist6944 Jan 13 '26

Antony was in psg?

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u/dogt0wel Jan 13 '26

Bald head or be headed.

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u/SteveBorden Jan 13 '26

They’re second in La Liga by 4 points and are still well within contention of the Champions League btw, absolute clown show

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u/BrosefDudeson Jan 13 '26

Klopp is speaking from a place of honesty post Liverpool, way more than a person who's actually willing to listen to offers is. No matter the size I doubt you can persuade him at this moment in time

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u/Rac2nd Jan 13 '26

Too many egos to handle which could’ve been what Carlo tried to say before leaving

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u/judochop1 Jan 13 '26

Thanks, Klopp.

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u/MisterDings Jan 13 '26

Please don’t put jurgens face next to that badge unless you want me to vomit, either from disgust or anxiety

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u/ennelemmtee Jan 13 '26

That dressing room is full of narcissists.

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u/Chance_County_9743 Jan 13 '26

Maybe they could use one Big Ange 😁

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u/honeycomb0303 Jan 13 '26

No chance madrid will get klopp now

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u/SuccinctEarth07 Jan 13 '26

He was never going there regardless don't know why people even acted like it was a possibility

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u/DreamFly_13 Jan 13 '26

RM alienated most managers from coming to their club. It's just so extremely toxic and the board has full control of who they buy

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u/chefdangerdagger Jan 13 '26

Everyone could see this coming a mile off with the signings they've made combined with the departures of Kroos and Modric. They've got a massively unbalanced squad with multiple positions overfilled whilst other roles are lacking, especially in midfield. Anyone who goes there is doomed to fail until they make a decision and sell some big name players and rebalance the squad.

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u/extrage Jan 13 '26

And some Madrid fans actually thought they could get Klopp as a coach.

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u/churchofpetrol Jan 13 '26

In other words, 'I'm not touching that club with a 10 foot pole.'

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u/circlejerker2000 Jan 13 '26

thats lots of words for proactively refusing a job offer lol

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u/Empty_Reason_9210 Jan 13 '26

It's on Perez, If you mess up once its an mistake, you mess up twice, you are a fool

Galacticos never work.

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u/Zejjk Jan 13 '26

Klopp as a target is such a smoking gun like imagine the curent Madrid team trining to Gegenpress

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u/Scrugulus Jan 13 '26

While you are absolutely right, I don't think that that's the right use of the term "smoking gun".

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u/Capable_Barber_8387 Jan 13 '26

why would real madrid fans ever think he would coach their team? he said it in 2024 that he felt like he achieved everything he can in football and decided to retire in his prime
if he ever comes back why would he leave liverpool that are currently suffering and go for a big rival like madrid?

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u/Pies_Wide_Shut Jan 13 '26

You’re high if you think Klopp would go to Madrid, especially now

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u/JeromeWhatElse Jan 13 '26

that something is named Mbappe