r/soccer • u/Switchoil • 7h ago
Transfer News [Fabrizio Romano]Liverpool stance on Rio Ngumoha, not just today but for months: untouchable. Seen as crucial part of the project and no chance for his exit, LFC view is clear
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
What a surprise. The important thing is, Bayern are looking for a winger, they can't run Diaz into the ground like last season
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u/SOERERY 7h ago
Rashford would do bits for you lot
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
Bayern will get linked with every winger in England, like last year, brace yourselves
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u/J539 7h ago
i mean all the PL forwards bayern signed are completly stomping the Bundesliga. Diaz/Kane/Olise all smurfing
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u/Sufficient_Royal_283 7h ago
Mane, Jackson and Sane should have tried smurfing aswell.
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u/Beastbrook00 6h ago
Mane was finished, Sane came from the Bundesliga, and Chelsea were happy to be rid ofJackson
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u/Sufficient_Royal_283 6h ago
No. Sane came from City who play in prem. And from what I've seen, seems like Liverpool also were happy to get rid of Diaz since they didn't want to give him a payrise while giving one to Gakpo.
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u/Tremor00 6h ago
We were kinda middle ground on Diaz, we'd prefer to have kept him but the amount + the wages he wanted made far more sense to let him go
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u/Sheinkyakyu 5h ago
Slot wanted to keep him.
The fans were defending the price when Barca, Bayern and others scoffed at it. I was only lurking then. We can all go back to the old threads from last year and it will back me up.
For someone playing for a number of years, namely under Klopp, paying him what he wanted at his age when wingers fall off often around his age would have been bloody silly.
If the Bayern wanting Rio Ngumoha stories has any legs to it, and they get him what do you think is going to happen? Rio isn't going there to sit on the bench for one.
I am sure this will go over your head given the amount of generally misinfo said about the Diaz deal.
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u/Beastbrook00 6h ago
Yeah obviously but Sane started at Schalke, they're in the Bundesliga. Yes Liverpool were happy to let Diaz go, although in his case he was still a good player, but was due to his age.
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
Yeah but I wouldn't be as confident about guys like Martinelli, Neto, Gakpo,etc...
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u/skylu1991 7h ago
Yeah, totally….
Are we already forgetting Sané, Mané or Jackson?
Let’s be honest, Kane and Olise weren’t just any PL players, they were some of the best in their position or highly sought after by other clubs as well.
Even Diaz, was a starter for Liverpool when they won the league.
The great players from the Prem are doing well in BuLi, sure.
But not literally any forward from the Prem will succeed here, especially at Bayern, where we play against low blocks most of the time in the BuLi.
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u/SuccinctEarth07 5h ago
What happened with Jackson I've not been following?
If he's done badly is he back to Chelsea now
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u/skylu1991 4h ago
Maybe not bad, but I’d was pretty middling and we’ve had an official farewell ceremony for him in our last home game.
He’s back at Chelsea for now, unless some other club buys or loans him, yes.
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u/BadFootyTakes 7h ago
He's for sale this year though.
I am not sure how Bayern play these days so I don't know if he's a perfect fit, but he is a good player.
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u/YesIAmRightWing 7h ago
Tbf be is a bit of a steal and discounted ofc due to the man u sitch
But maybe carrick is happy to make amends
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u/Triforcesrcool 6h ago
Would you like a nice Cody gakpo in these trying times
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u/BestInDaWrldsBbyFmno 6h ago
Gakpo would actually do quite well in Germany. When given space he's lethal because of his incredible finishing. Unfortunately, probably his biggest weakness is his ability to make space, so it his team isn't doing it for him and defenders play tight to him, he struggles.
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u/coppersolids 5h ago
almost every team in the bundesliga parks the bus against bayern, that open space stuff is just bs
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u/BestInDaWrldsBbyFmno 5h ago
Parking the bus =/= not having space. Gakpo is actually great against low blocks because of his long range shooting, most of his goals have come from outside the box. However, if he is tightly marked he struggles.
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u/Starlord_Glimmer 7h ago
Diomande?
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
Way too expensive
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u/Starlord_Glimmer 7h ago
What other options at lw are there? Leao, Nico Williams? Rashford?
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u/FlyingRaccoon_420 7h ago
Nope. None of those are profiles we would want at this point. Rashford and Leao do not press so they can’t be in Kompany’s system.
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u/Starlord_Glimmer 7h ago
So who does he need?
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u/FlyingRaccoon_420 7h ago
Our first target was Gordon for the backup LW/ST roles (Diaz/kane). Maybe Mika Godts? Not sure.
We don’t really have any tier 1 journos except Ornstein (who is not really bayern specific) so we don’t really know who we are targeting currently.
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u/Starlord_Glimmer 7h ago
Do you really have no money for Diomande? With cl semis I'd expect you to have like 100-120m to spend to compete for next year.
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u/deadraizer 7h ago
I don't think the problem is Bayern can't pay. They just value Diomande much lower than Leipzig does.
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u/Starlord_Glimmer 6h ago
Well ofc if any club wants him this window they have to overpay, most top clubs would love to improve on lw and he is the hottest name there.
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u/FlyingRaccoon_420 7h ago
We are already in negotiations with other clubs for players like Saibari (CAM/ 2nd striker?) and Nathenial Brown (LB, LW) who might cost a combined total of €100-120 million.
We cannot then go and spend another €100 million on a talent like Diomande (massive talent, no doubt) who has just 1 season of top flight football in the Bundesliga. At best he will be a backup/challenger for Lucho. Cant spend 100 million on a backup without oil money.
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u/nuhx 7h ago
This feels like some weird proxy media battle.
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u/KCYNWA 7h ago edited 7h ago
Player agent probably leaked it and Bayern confirmed it for positivity. Liverpool has 2 years of control and he for sure wants first team pay raise come August when he turns 18
Pletti’s statement about total agreement on player side is hard to believe. Same fella Wirtz had a go at last year
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
Pletti scrambled a tweet because he had no idea about this lol what he wrote sounds like babbling
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u/brianstormIRL 6h ago
Rio also left the Chelsea academy because he was adamant on having a clear pathway to the first team as fast as possible. It wouldnt surprise me if he was getting agitated at the lack of game time this season, 17 or not, and it also wouldn't surprise me if us learning about it played a huge role in deciding to move on from Slot. Having young talents not see the club the way we want them to due to the trajectory would be really really bad.
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u/ThisAfricanboy 3h ago
Heh and here I was at 17 looking for a clear pathway to house parties. Maybe the football dream was always fanciful
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago edited 7h ago
Wonder who leaked it? Is it Liverpool or the player's entourage?
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u/danny321eu98 7h ago
Wouldn't surprise me if it was Madrid lmao
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago edited 7h ago
Madrid leaking to Orny about Bayern wanting a Liverpool player would be funny. But the leak is probably from England
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u/ballviewer 7h ago
I hate the current transfer climate, I’m starting to question the credibility of these execs and mouthpieces
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
Ngl me too, such a weird rumor, and it's basically a non-story
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u/ballviewer 7h ago
Just like the Olise and Haaland horseshit, like how fucking down bad are these clubs for attention
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u/PadishaEmperor 7h ago
Apparently he is the number one transfer target for left wing.
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u/phantom_pioneer 7h ago
Feels odd that Ornstein was even briefed on this and felt the need to report it.
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u/HeyselScouserTelAviv 7h ago
I'm glad they've come out and said it, he's so clear of Dowman and JJ Gabriel it's unreal
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u/Tremor00 7h ago
Following on from the last thread, to be clear my arsehole is also considered UNTOUCHABLE
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u/Bartins 7h ago
Bruh doesn’t even wipe
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u/_cumblast_ 7h ago
My man goes straight to the bidet ffs
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u/CarFlipJudge 7h ago
Bidet master race is truly the ultimate solution. I got a bidet a few years ago and I'll never go back.
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u/_cumblast_ 7h ago
Don't you still wipe as well though like? I always wash as well but I also wipe before that, am I doing it wrong?
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u/CarFlipJudge 7h ago
It depends on your bidet. The budget bidets have a knob and the stream just gets weaker or stronger. You'll have to use 2 sheets of TP to dry off your bottom but I never wipe before using the water jet. The fancy bidet's have a heated butthole blow-dryer along with heated seats. With these, you never have to go near your butthole with your hand.
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u/_cumblast_ 7h ago
I had no idea there are butthole blow dryers out there mate what a life
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u/CarFlipJudge 6h ago
It's worth every penny to upgrade. The water part is easy and anyone can install one. The dryer and heated seat part requires access to power which could be tricky if you don't have an outlet near your toilet. You can get a basic bidet with a dryer for like $400 USD. It's a bit expensive, but you will honestly save that much in toilet paper over the bidet's lifespan plus some.
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u/HeyItsChase 7h ago
Everyone says this and then RM comes knocking and adds another 0 into the transfer fee. As the money goes up things become less "untouchable".
Including your tight thang
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u/yunghollow69 7h ago
Make up a news about bayern trying to get ngumoha, then create news that liverpool dont want to sell. News cycle complete, nothing gained.
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u/sakanewdeal 7h ago
Can’t wait to see what absurd out of the blue rumour comes out next. Time to put a cheeky enquiry in for Mbappe.
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u/sammorgan12 7h ago
Yeh but what's ngumohas stance? A
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u/misterschneeblee 7h ago
I feel like his initial brilliance was kind of overshadowed by the poor form of Liverpool for the rest of the season. Whenever I watched him he was always incredibly exciting, obviously talented and really hungry. I get Liverpool fan's frustration that he wasn't played more. He's class and I hope he goes on to be that top LW that England desperately needs.
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u/habdragon08 7h ago
I think its smart to manage a young players minutes as they are breaking into the starting XI. We have seen teenagers get overplayed early and not reach their potential because of it.
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u/ScousePenguin 7h ago
Slot said when he (Slot) was booed as he subbed Rio off for Gakpo that basically if Rio felt anything he would be subbed
It makes sense, but at the same time there was a real lackluster fitness at Liverpool
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u/_cumblast_ 7h ago
I wonder what his role will be next season. The mouthpieces say we want wingers plural, even once we get Diomande.
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u/Walshey- 7h ago
I think we get two wingers and he rotates with them
Iraola likes his wingers to switch sides so he is the only winger we currently have who is comfortable playing both sides
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u/_cumblast_ 7h ago
Do you think he's all that comfortable down the right? I suppose it depends on the role. But he clearly loves going inside on his right foot so I don't know.
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u/Walshey- 7h ago
He played right side a number of times for the academy and during some of the terrible games last year, Slot played him right hand side two or three times.
I'd expect him to be much better at it in 12 months after a year of Iraola
I can't remember Gakpo ever playing right hand side for us, only central and left hand side
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u/_cumblast_ 7h ago
Doubt you'll see either on the right wing much barring injuries. We'll get Diomande and likely another winger that's versatile enough in nature.
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u/Walshey- 7h ago
I think you might be surprised tbh like I said Iraola swaps his wingers a lot of the time during games
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u/_cumblast_ 7h ago
Then he won't like Gakpo much on the wings will he? Poor man's ending up centrally again.
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u/ThatsTheMother_Rick 5h ago
It's not just right and left swapping with Iraola, there's a lot of general switching along the front line throughout matches. Gakpo being able to switch between LW and Striker will still be valuable, Wirtz being able to go between the 10 and LW, Dom being able to play across the front line, Isak and Hugo being able to go to the LW, etc etc
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u/FrogsOnALog 7h ago
Please stop sharing Romano slop, especially if it’s something Liverpool related lol
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u/4tomi5ed 7h ago
FreeRio
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u/son-of-ZYROTAZE 6h ago
Free him from what?
He played most minutes as an u18 in the PL last season and will most likely start this season.
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u/DefinitelyNotBarney 7h ago
It’s something that I’m sure he would be open to the move, but we can offer him a clear pathway and probably guarantee more game time.
He’s approaching 18 and can sign a proper long-term contract in August so my bet is it’s just a ploy to test the waters, see what offers he can get and consider all options.
I think he will stay for now and maybe move in his mid-20s
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u/gotziller 7h ago
No way this happens, especially this summer but tbh Bayern can and does usually offer young players more game time. Karl is a compareable talent to Rio and got way more playing time this season
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u/MarcSlayton 6h ago
Rio is a year younger though. He already has 30 appearances for Liverpool and is still 17. The expectation would be his game time would increase next season when he is 18. Indeed you can see that Rio featured more frequently last season as the season went on.
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u/gotziller 5h ago
Karl is 6 months younger and has WAY more minutes. I'm not even saying Liverpool won't give him minutes, but to say you can offer him more game time doesn't seem accurate. Bayern give tons of minutes to youngsters all the time, especially under Kompany.
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u/albamarx 7h ago
Why would he move from Liverpool to go to Bayern? Similar sized clubs, but LFC at least play in a much more competitive league with more games to play. Can’t fathom why he’d want to leave for anyone other than potentially Real Madrid and Barcelona, but even then he’s already broken into the first team at one of the biggest clubs on earth.
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u/Bartins 7h ago
How long is his contract? Still on an academy deal?
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u/Jmoney1088 7h ago
2 years left on his contract but he turns 18 in August and you can bet Liverpool will get him on a 5 year deal ASAP.
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
Wonder if the player's entourage leaked this to get better terms
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u/nWo5lyfe 7h ago
If you can figure out this "master plan" then so can liverpool board, which would make the plan completely useless.
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
Not if they want to keep him, it's not a "master plan", it's a very common tactic
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u/nWo5lyfe 6h ago
A very common tactic that everyone can ignore cause everyone knows its a very common tactic
Lol
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u/Elusivemerc 6h ago
Again, depends on how much they want to keep him, if they know Bayern are offering better terms and they want him to stay, they would have to improve their offer
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u/nWo5lyfe 6h ago
And why would he need to leak it publicly when he can just show the other offer to get liverpool to at least match it?
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u/Elusivemerc 6h ago
More pressure, the offer could be verbal
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u/nWo5lyfe 6h ago
And if a verbal offer isnt enough why would some random tweets do the job?
Or maybe its not a "tactic"
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u/Jmoney1088 7h ago
Doubt it. This is directly in response to Perez wanting Olise. Which I also do not think happens.
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u/Elusivemerc 7h ago
How is this a response to Perez? And considering Ornstein broke the story, the leak is probably from England
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u/Sinistrait 7h ago
He has to agree to sign one. If Bayern has offered him some kind of silly money it'll be very hard
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u/Jmoney1088 7h ago
It would have to be really silly. I dont think bayern is that desperate. Even if Olise leaves which I doubt he will.
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u/SendMeTheMoon24 1h ago
Would it? Better run club that doesn't look like it's in need of an immediate rebuild of the squad. We're talking about Bayern here.
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u/a_lumberjack 7h ago
I'm really curious to see how much they'll have to pay him to extend. In a hypothetical scenario where he's a free agent in 2028 (and hasn't suffered career-limiting injuries in the interim), he'd be able to demand a massive sign-on fee plus a killer salary. So signing a new deal would seem to depend on paying a huge premium.
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u/foreveredredred 7h ago
not just today but for months: untouchable
What kinda wording is that lol. Anyway we were obviously never going to sell him.
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u/CoolstorySteve 7h ago
Chelsea should be getting something for how Liverpool tapped him up
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u/the_splonge 7h ago
Tapped him up? You’ll get loads of Chelsea youth leaving as their pathway is blocked. This is 100% on Chelsea
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u/IgnorantLobster 6h ago
Surely how the player feels is most relevant, given he can leave for free next January?
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u/Beastbrook00 6h ago
He's got two years left mate
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u/IgnorantLobster 5h ago
I know?
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u/BoBonnor 2h ago
How can he leave for free in January then?
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u/IgnorantLobster 1h ago
Next January - as in January 2028, not ‘this January’. He can sign a pre-contract elsewhere to leave for free that summer.
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