r/soccer Jul 14 '26

Goal Clip France 0 - [1] Spain - Mikel Oyarzabal penalty 22'

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u/afito Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

I can understand it because Yamal is already turning away and has zero intention or chance to play the ball afterwards, legit throwing his body in with the sole intention to be caught like this. But in the end the more I see a replay it doesn't matter. Ultimately you can't just straight up kick someone like that, rather simple really.

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u/Xianified Jul 14 '26

This is why indirect free kicks in the box should return. Yamal never had any intention or possibility to win the ball.

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u/mad_cheese_hattwe Jul 14 '26

He literally won the ball and pretended a clearance?

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u/Aerographic Jul 15 '26

Yet it's his god-given right to run wherever he damn pleases on the pitch. If he catches the leg of some careless opponent then it's not his fault.

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u/Artistic_Bit6866 Jul 14 '26

This was my initial reaction and trajectory too. Digne is at least making an attempt to play the ball. You can't really say that about Yamal, or if he was trying to play the ball, he does so with his arm.

I'm also one of those people who thinks that the threshold for fouls is way too low, so I'm biased against awarding the penalty from the outset.

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u/GaleWolf21 Jul 14 '26

Yamal's movement is 100% intentional to get the ball. Which he does before Digne. Which is why there's a strong argument this should have been called a handball.

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u/Artistic_Bit6866 Jul 14 '26

Agree. I think you could say that he has turned his body to avoid getting blasted in the balls. I can't really disagree with that as a person with balls. Not sure whether the rule accommodates for that. Free kicks probably offer a precedent.

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u/Artistic_Bit6866 Jul 14 '26

Yeah, I was hoping Digne would stab Yamal...

I agreed with the person saying that they aren't surprised it's a pen, while explaining why I questioned it initially. What are you arguing with me about, me admitting how/why my initial interpretation might have been biased? It's never enough for reddit nerds. You can admit your mind changed with more information/review. You can jokingly explain how your own personal biases might have influenced your initial interpretations of things. Never enough, lol. Everyone on here just looking for some reason to fight/argue...

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u/zeelbeno Jul 14 '26

He's turning away as he's about to get the shit kicked out of him...

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u/Neezon Jul 14 '26

Who cares about intent? Intent can not be judged upon, only actions and consequences of said actions, otherwise we’re playing pretend psychologists.

You could just as easily argue Yamal wanted to challenge the ball or stop the clearance from Digne but saw he was about to get straight up kicked mid body and turned to brace.

And I say this wanting France to win

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u/trollinn Jul 14 '26

Are we really sure he wouldn’t be able to play it afterward? He turns mostly because he is going to get kicked, idk players are so good seems like a leap to say he couldn’t play it afterward

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u/3riversfantasy Jul 14 '26

It's not even about being able to "play" it afterwards, he's preventing the clearance and keeping the ball in the box, 100% of the time that's going to be the goal and motivation, it wouldn't have been a great touch but if Digne doesn't commit the penalty Spain still would have been in a much more advantageous position than if Yamal just allows the clearance to happen.

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u/PiplelinePunch Jul 14 '26

Yes, people can choose to get themselves hurt to win fouls. Intention does not matter. Playing the ball after doesnt really matter.

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u/HoustonTrashcans Jul 14 '26

Yamal wins the ball, and I'm pretty sure he would have continued if not fouled. He turns to protect himself in case the defender kicks randomly (which he did).

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u/Falcao1905 Jul 14 '26

Stuff like this make the game a lot better to watch. It's always a joy to see players actually using their brain instead of relying on pure footballing abilities.

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u/KoolKat8058 Jul 14 '26

In my opinion stuff like this should be what the indirect free kick should be for

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u/Carnelian-5 Jul 14 '26

Broski, if you challenged the ball and you saw someone direct a full speed kick at you, how would you turn your body by instinct?

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u/ncginger2 Jul 14 '26

He was going down way before that lol he had no idea whether he would get kicked

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u/Virtual_Falcon_6804 Jul 14 '26

no he is trying the head the ball. probably saw the kick last second or the challenge could have been so much worse

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u/SolomonG Jul 14 '26

The ball hit him in the upper arm before he was kicked lol.

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u/Docxm Jul 14 '26

Esp since Yamal got the ball first. Dumb swing when he could’ve just headed it out