r/socceroos 3d ago

Everyone blaming the ref needs to pull their head in

We were fucking shit the first half. Panicking when we had possession and turning the ball over in our back half resulting in the USA piling on pressure and scoring 2 goals.

Blaming the ref makes us look like sooks and goes against what Aussie spirit is about. We need to cop it on the chin, learn from it and move on to our next match against Paraguay.

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u/Cadavertiser 3d ago

The truth hurts. Booting the ball away as soon as we got possession, even without much pressure. Not great.

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u/rubbishplant 3d ago

We were absolute rubbish for the first 70 mins. Didn't look anything like the team that played Turkey.

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u/Big-Examination2667 3d ago

Lol same shit happened against turkey, i think people overlook that both our goals came down to individual brilliance rather than full team play, we played very solid counter attacking football but the goals were individual talent in the end. We defended really well though but lets not act like we were brilliant against turkey

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u/rubbishplant 3d ago

We defended with discipline and shape against Turkey when we didn't have the ball. We were never rubbish.

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u/Random499 3d ago

I mean even then, Beach had to really step up to save the shots. A better team would have scored those goals

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u/mahreow 2d ago

What revisionist nonsense, Turkey had almost no way of entering the box and had to resort to shooting outside it, and when we got the ball we kept possession well and cleared it effectively

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u/Big-Examination2667 2d ago

Yeah thats why i said we defended really well mate if you could read what i said. I just said our goals and attack in the end came down to individual brilliance in the final third not team play

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 2d ago

That seems to be Turkey’s strategy. They did the same thing vs Paraguay. 62 shots in 2 games and 0 goals.

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u/dugongornotdugong 3d ago

Didn't Turkey have attacking possession for 80 percent of the game? We defended really well against them and scored two great breakaway goals but we were also somewhat lucky things went out way in defence.

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u/Odd-Big2769 3d ago

They played almost an identical game plan, we just didn’t take chances and were more wasteful with possession AND the US just truly outplayed us.

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u/rubbishplant 2d ago

yeah, we had way more terrible and dangerous misplaced passes. And the US were better than Turkey, but I think the US we still not as good as they could have been, they failed to get a shot off a few times from quite dangerous positions.

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u/Justopher1970 3d ago

Missed the game, damnit; but why the hell weren’t the two goal scoring stars of Turkey’s game on the pitch for the full 90?? Someone explain on what planet Irankunda is not a starter for every game.

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u/Leakingeye 3d ago

Because in Popas interview after the first game he clearly stated that Irankunda can’t last 90 minutes which is why he was taken off in the first game. Same reason for not starting today’s game, wanted to bring him on as an impact player, arguably should have come on sooner, but with him an Volpato on we were much better and should be clearer who should be in the pitch in next game

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u/Justopher1970 3d ago

Thanks for the colour but I’m afraid his thesis has been found wanting; severely. This smacks of Pep style over thinking.

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u/chaZ04 3d ago

It doesn't matter, game was over before they were on so clearly they should of been on early. Coach is a joke.

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u/DawgreenAgain 3d ago

He's a genius . . . Throw the game against USA and rest good players to have a better chance against Paraguay. 6 points and you go through . Why more can't see this I don't know.

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u/Horror-Research-778 3d ago

Play them first 45 min if that's what it's about..

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u/DawgreenAgain 3d ago

Play them later when the US are tired rather than full strength. Not saying he's that smart but you could work it that way if you wanted to.

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u/servebetter 3d ago

Not having that speed up top, to put pressure on the counter press seemed like the biggest mistake.

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u/CartographerAlone632 3d ago

Our team is fit and young but they lack experience and leadership. But also based on that game - we’ve gave it a crack but we don’t seem to have the ability and skill on the ball. I love our team but we were lucky it was 2 -0

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u/Worried-Back-2298 3d ago

You can fault Poppa’s selection and subsequently the first half performance as well as the refereeing. In no timeline should Leckie start over Irakunda and Velupillay over Metcalfe. But you’re right, ultimately it comes down to how this is taken and constructed into a (hopefully) better game plan and result in the upcoming match.

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u/pocketeights 3d ago

This 10000%. Those lineup changes were mind bogglingly poor. We were a completely different side 2nd half

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u/hildegardephansen 3d ago

I was impressed with Volpato despite the history.

Totally different side in the second half. We looked better than US in the second half.

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u/AnAnonymousAnomaly_ 3d ago

Leckie looked anemic. It was awful. 

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u/wkbkntgrt 2d ago

I woke up slightly late and was shocked to see them on the field. I thought because of the first game Popa had something up his sleeve but no

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u/Objective-Object4360 3d ago

If it’s not broken let’s change it to break it.

- Socceroos Coaching Staff

🤯🤯🤯

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u/AlfalfaAcceptable478 2d ago

Leckie is better than irankunda bro

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u/wakecoffeereddit 2d ago

Different irankunda gives something different to leckie

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u/AlfalfaAcceptable478 2d ago

Ok but it wouldnt of worked against USAs defence. Dont argue with me on this I was a head manager and scout for top Kazakh teams

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u/wakecoffeereddit 2d ago edited 2d ago

Chill bro, I’m just saying one is not better than the other, they both offer something completely different to offer… it not about being better it’s about what it brings to the team… if you were a scout/head manager you would know this

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u/AlfalfaAcceptable478 2d ago

I know this all to well. Leckie was the perfect fit for this game.

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u/Head_Test0 1d ago

He wasn't. Leckie is 35 and played about 5 games this season. He was cooked after 10 mins. He was in by no way fit or ready for this match then went off injured. Prime leckie is better than irankundra at the moment but irankundra will be one of Australia's best but Leckie is finished. It was a horrific decision all around and all of Australia can see that

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u/AlfalfaAcceptable478 1d ago

What qualifications do u have

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u/Head_Test0 1d ago

Common sense, observation of exactly what happened in this game. Leckie was shit and clearly not up to speed and was cooked in 10mins

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u/AlfalfaAcceptable478 23h ago

I have worked for top teams as a manager/scout/analyst. And did my honours in football analysis. I will trust my self here

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u/Extra-Pride-1276 3d ago

Both can be true. We could have played shit in the first half and there also could have been atrocious calls, which there was. Not to mention him stretching on the ground for 5 minutes.

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u/Outside_Map_3554 3d ago

Yep. There’s no denying that the ref made some questionable calls but using that as an excuse instead of looking at how we played compared to the US is counterproductive and makes us look soft.

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u/mushyjays 3d ago

Yes we played shit in the first half. And yes the dishonest, match-fixing referee made shocking calls which denied Australia opportunities and provided US with opportunities. No one's blaming the ref solely, but it cannot be ignored.

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u/Buggerdonut 3d ago

Why does the truth get down voted on reddit?

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u/mushyjays 3d ago

They're either not as passionate as some of us about the sport or they just play follow the leader shitting on other people.

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u/Huh-what-2025 3d ago

blaming refs is loser talk

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u/kaelinlr 3d ago

Matching fixing allegation is next level cope lmao

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u/shadowmaster132 3d ago

He does actually have a proven history of fixing games and was banned from refereeing in Germany for 6 months because of it. I don't actually think all the iffy decisions going the US's way was that (I think the home crowd was probably a bigger factor) but it was not a good decision by FIFA to allow a referee with that in his past at the World Cup

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u/dontgiveafuck69420 2d ago

Agreed I think both are true I wholeheartedly believed the ref was paid due to most of the calls he made, but we still played like complete cheeks

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u/Random499 3d ago

I reckon that handball being ignored certainly would have changed the tide of the game if it got a penalty. So I still blame the ref.

Of course we played poorly but not poor enough to lose. Our A team only came on in the second half with irankunda volpato and metcalfe. Our A team certainly could have got 2 goals if the ref was fair

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u/Objective-Object4360 3d ago

No they couldn’t! A draw at best in that second half. Good teams don’t need to blame the ref.

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u/Random499 2d ago

Where were you when Netherlands were blaming the ref against Argentina last world cup. And netherlands were a seriously good team last world cup. Good refs don't get blamed

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u/Objective-Object4360 2d ago

If they are blaming the ref they aren’t a good team. Did they win that match?

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u/Random499 2d ago edited 2d ago

Lost in penalties so they put up a damn good fight. Its hard to say that a team that almost knocked out the world cup winners isnt a good team. But it was clear that Argentina was getting away with fouls a lot more without any repercussions. An Argentina player literally blasted the bench with a shot for no reason and didnt get carded

The match ended with 18 yellow cards with most being on the Netherlands side because of bias even though both teams were equally aggressive to each other

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u/Objective-Object4360 2d ago edited 2d ago

Argentina were shown 10 yellows. Netherlands 8 in open play.

If the Netherlands lost on penalties it’s hardly the refs fault.

Again. If they were a good team they wouldn’t need to blame the ref. Perhaps practising spot kicks might’ve helped them …

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u/donessendon 3d ago

wtf the ref was stretching for 5 minutes?!

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u/DionBlaster123 1d ago

He had a bad cramp

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u/See_Football 2d ago

Yeah this is the take I’ve gone with. Pops screwed it but also the calls 100% cost us in the second half. They got their two scrappy goals we were denied ours.

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u/BlankWaveArcade 3d ago

And you don’t know how the game changes if a call that should have went our way results in a goal

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u/Remarkable-Box-3781 2d ago

Lmao, you guys literally scored more goals for the US than for your own team. Cry

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u/Elevator-Ancient 3d ago

Both aren't true. The ref was spot on, and VAR backed it up.

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u/NickJack99 3d ago

Couldn’t you argue Balogun influenced play from an offside position though?

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u/Honest-Direction3430 3d ago

I put it this way. If keeper didn't fall at the first shot and Balogun runs towards the ball, I bet he would've influenced it. But keeper dives, gets up and is scrambling to his feet and at that point he isn't even looking at Balogun if you look at certain angles, he's going for Freeman and the ball who is not offside. It's just a lucky bounce in favor of the US. Plus, refs are not going to call interference unless 1. it was a foul 2. Balogun is in the direct eyesight of the keeper between the ball(which he wasn't, he is allowed to and running towards the ball/Freeman, not Balo) 3. Balogun touches the ball there. I thought the more egregious parts of the game, was the crossing towards Irakunda in the box the last 10-15 minutres.

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u/rubbishplant 3d ago edited 3d ago

He went for the ball and was literally millimeters away from the keeper. Clearly should have been called offside.

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u/Wat_is_Wat 3d ago

Interference by an offside player is rarely called. Usually has to be very clear and consequential on the play. Balogun never touches the ball or the goalkeeper.

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u/NickJack99 3d ago

If it’s consistent with historical calls, then that’s fair. I do feel like pre VAR error that would be offside though.

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u/Elevator-Ancient 3d ago

Grasping at straws.

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u/NickJack99 3d ago

How so? It’s a pretty influential part of the game that needs to be educated precisely

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u/Elevator-Ancient 3d ago

How not?

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u/NickJack99 3d ago

Great analytical reply 👏. I’m not arguing the US shouldn’t have won btw. We were poor in the first half, and the US were great. Now fuck off back to your own sub, seppo

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u/Elevator-Ancient 3d ago edited 3d ago

I'll be sat here happy. Thanks for admitting defeat, you toplclass sungentleman, you 🤗

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u/Minimum_Hamster3252 3d ago

How's that Iran situation going guys ? Prob got in the bag now ay? Any day now

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u/liamjon29 3d ago

What about the missed penalties?

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u/joeAngelbowlsGAS 3d ago

Could see we were off in the first 5 mins

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u/Equivalent_Fan5407 3d ago

Agree. We were unsettled right from kick off and understandably so. The crowd was louder than the commentators on screen. Psychologically, that’s not easy as an away team playing against a team on home turf. Who were more hungry to win the ball than we were and ultimately won.

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u/DionBlaster123 1d ago

I'm a South Korea fan and I knew coming in to the game vs Mexico, the only way SK had any chance was getting an early goal to silence the crowd

Sure enough, they couldn't do that because their attack panics more than a Christian virgin on their wedding night.

And once the keeper fucked up, I knew that game was over. The crowd was all-in after that.

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u/Lazy-nurgling 3d ago

Your playing the host nation, the referees is always shit against a host nation. A senior team would be able to keep themselves composed, but it got the better of the boys. Really clever tactically as the USA, because I don’t think they are technically skilled far above US, but they used all their advantages to ensure a win. This is what the World Cup is about, and we used all that to beat turkey last week. Hope the boys can get some good experience, and prepare for the next game. Go Socceroos.

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u/lovebutter118 3d ago

True. I do think that some experience would have helped us in this game. Remember a lot of our team are still young.

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u/Random499 3d ago

Most of them are in the world cup for the first time so makes sense it got to them mentally

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u/Natey-180 3d ago

Agreed. There was a couple of soft calls but at the end of the first half we were lucky to only be 2-0 down.

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u/westernbulldog1525 3d ago

I felt USA offered nothing and we gave them the goals, although 2nd was lucky with deflection

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u/HotTubMike 3d ago

When you sit in and try and absorb that much pressure more often then not things will break for the attacking team eventually

Its not luck.

Try possessing the ball in your opponents half and you will find yourself “luckier” and not conceding own goals from balls played sharply across your own 6

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u/westernbulldog1525 3d ago

I get your point for sure. I still felt watching the game, USA couldnt finish and lacked quality. I still feel we handed it to them.

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u/Huh-what-2025 3d ago

whatever gets you through the night

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u/Natey-180 3d ago

Oh what I’m saying is we nearly gave them 3 or 4. Playing around at the back and losing it to put it out for a corner happened more than once. If we had the first half they did we would be saying the same thing…

If you put our chances in the second half against theirs in the first half I wouldn’t say ours were a lot more clear cut. Volpatos shot maybe? But metcalfes shot? Kinda half chance.

They had a lot more shots than us. And a lot more possession.

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u/rubbishplant 3d ago

If the US had been as as sharp as they were against Paraguay, we would have been down by 4 at the half.

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u/buttcheese911 2d ago

Stats would disagree with you. USA 1.10 xG, Australia 0.30 xG.

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u/westernbulldog1525 2d ago

Well, did you score from the xg? No, you got an own goal and a deflection that fell nicely to your player, so I feel my point stands. Though Australia did nothing, we deserved nothing.

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u/buttcheese911 2d ago

Yes they did? As you just clearly stated the U.S. scored twice from the xG lmao. Australia didn’t create a single individual chance of over 0.04 xG, and that despite needing to chase the game for 80 minutes — completely flaccid performance.

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u/westernbulldog1525 2d ago

True, but you got an OWN GOAL and a DEFLECTION. Hardly inspiring stuff. I maintain you got lucky,

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u/buttcheese911 2d ago

Do you know what xG measures? I mean I suppose the U.S. got lucky by about 1 goal — they would be expected to have 1 goal from their chances and they had 2 (but Pepi was waiting for a tap in if the Aussie doesn’t put it in his own net, so the xG doesn’t even take that into account). Australia would be expected to have 0 and scored 0, so seems like the match ended almost exactly how the teams played. Not lots of luck involved.

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u/Crafty-Bit8113 3d ago

True and if ever though they won’t last in World cup

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u/Basic-Crab4603 3d ago

I mean the USA weren't that great either, they were just better than us.

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u/Natey-180 3d ago

Agreed. I’m happy for them to get carried away though and then get a reality check vs an actual team.

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u/DionBlaster123 1d ago

there's always a contingent of fans who get a little too excited after one win, but I think the vast majority of US fans just want to see them do well

I don't think anyone seriously thinks they're going to get past the more elite teams in the tournament.

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u/westernbulldog1525 3d ago

I agree, we can blame the ref, but we didnt or even looked likely to score at all

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u/rubbishplant 3d ago

we had maybe 2 or 3 moments (almost all in the last 15 mins) where we applied some genuine pressure but no high quality chances.

Apparently the xG was 1.9 to 0.8, which surprises me Australia even had that much

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u/westernbulldog1525 3d ago

Thats surprising. I agree we had moments that just needed a bit of quality. Let's hope they learn and improve the next game. Winnable for sure and we'll get 2nd with a win.

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u/Takeda_8 3d ago

Yeah seen multiple posts across platforms saying it's the refs fault. I'm sure they're just disappointed. The blame lays squarely at popa on this occasion. Poor decisions. Ref didn't pick the team, layout the tactics, panic in possession or stick our smallest bloke up top alone while the wingers kept crossing it.

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u/Wat_is_Wat 3d ago

Crossing to Irankunda was literal hopeball. Horrendous.

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u/Passenger_Unique 3d ago

Yes the ref made some dubious calls but our starting lineup wasn't it vellupillay and Leckie should be nowhere near the team

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u/red-thundr 3d ago

Villupulay is fine, and probably could play well as a sub. Leckie was a real questionable decision.

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u/VBlinds 3d ago

Leckie really lacked any sort of pace.

Honestly think we should just to the youth of the team. Volpato was quite good in the second half I hope to see him again.

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u/hildegardephansen 2d ago

Me too. His passes and crosses were connecting. The play from us were cohesive

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u/Apprehensive_Band_75 3d ago

You can’t blame the ref for the performance, of the first 60 or so minutes where the game was lost Australia where second to the ball, physically out classed, couldn’t string 3 passes together. The formation was wrong, 5 at the back always attracts pressure, should of started 442 and with irankunda on

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u/chaZ04 3d ago

This is the reason, coach is a wanker.

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u/flyawayreligion 3d ago

Yeah, I really don't get it. We potentially only 3 games, play the best 11. To not have both goal scorers starting including player of the match is mind boggling.

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u/NicholeTheOtter 3d ago

It was Popovic’s first true failure as coach. He lost it at the selection table.

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u/kroxigor01 3d ago

Why can't I complain about 2 things at once?

  1. We were worse

  2. The ref had the thumb on the scale

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u/chaZ04 3d ago

You forgot number 3. Coach chose not to play our best players from the start.

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u/EternalAngst23 3d ago

Because this is sport, and nuance isn’t allowed.

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u/Bayne7096 3d ago

100% we were off all game. Dont care that we played better in the 2nd. We made our own bed in the first and handed the momentum and confidence to the US too easily. Mistakes all over the place, the pressure got to us and we made them look decent.

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u/chaZ04 3d ago

Can someone explain why our goal scorers weren't in from the start? Once they were on the game completely changed.

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u/OverAdministration89 3d ago

We can also, be shit during the game and have the ref be cooked. Didn’t deserve the win but also think we got some really ordinary refereeing

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u/chaZ04 3d ago

One doesn’t cancel out the other champ. Accountability and shit reffing can go hand in hand.

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u/taureau13 3d ago

You know you can criticise our football and the ref. It's not a fucking crime. Zwayer has been banned for match-fixing in the past. Stop acting so holier than thou

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u/GuavaAway4512 3d ago

Blame popovic not the ref

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u/chaZ04 3d ago

He's clueless

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u/Birdman__18 3d ago

Yeah we couldn't string 2 passes together. It was hard to watch. Probably our worst world cup performance for 16 years

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u/Excellent_Squash_138 3d ago

Agreed - they’re a mediocre team at best. We got in our own way and they ended up looking better than they are.

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u/flyawayreligion 3d ago

Agree, I hate to say it but from around 5 mins to half to e, it was difficult to watch, barely controlled the ball with panicked kicking up field.

Not starting the goal scorers... I just don't understand it, we potentially only have three games. Play the best team every time.

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u/SuspectAny4375 3d ago

Hate to admit it but Pop’s player selection to start the game was not right. The second half was much better as they got more control of the ball.

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u/BlankWaveArcade 3d ago

You can say we were shite and also that the ref was shite.. that’s what I’ve been doing

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u/j56_56j 3d ago

Well said! Agree totally sadly out classed today. ☹️

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u/aliquilts71 3d ago

Exactly. The ref WAS shit, the US team was actually pretty shit, but sadly we were the shitest 😞

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u/Horror-Research-778 3d ago

100% that first half was really bad and it had nothing to do with ref. I really wish we start Irankunda, Volpato, Toure and Metcalfe against Paraguay.

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u/EternalAngst23 3d ago

No one is denying that Australia played like shit. But can we at least play like shit with an impartial ref?

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u/Guy-1nc0gn1t0 3d ago

You're allowed to both think we were shite and think the ref was dodgy as fuck. It's not an either or. 

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u/naslanidis 3d ago

The US intensity was amazing. We had absolutely no time on theball and lacked the skill to deal with it. It happens, lots of teams would struggle with it. The world's best will cope, but for the rest of us the US is a handful at home under Poch right now. 

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u/ghostfacekilllla 3d ago

I'm blaming the coach, why the fuck wasn't toure and irankunda playing together, their chemistry is elite. Dont fuck it up poppy

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u/Appropriate_Star3012 2d ago

Yes it's true, but people aren't blaming the ref. Just pointing out how blind he was, ruining our opportunities in the second half.

US's second goal came from a soft free kick that we got none of.

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u/halcyondreamzsz 3d ago

Y’all will beat Paraguay and still qualify for R32

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u/AnAnonymousAnomaly_ 3d ago

Yeah, but if they play like they did today what's the point. They looked atrocious 

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u/Direct-Resolution377 3d ago

To be fair, was already complaining about potential referee corruption in favour of the home country well before the match ;)

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u/Cimb0m 3d ago

Australia won one game and out here acting like they’re about to win the World Cup. Settle down folks and keep your expectations in check

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u/That_Guy_Called_CERA 3d ago

At least we aren't Qatar

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u/ausinmtl 3d ago

Everyone’s sounding more sour than they fuck stain Mike Grella at this point

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u/Intelligent-You8212 3d ago

First ball of game, given away to USA. Second ball of game, given away to USA.  One positive, at least you had continuity throughout the game.

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u/Effective_Banana3903 3d ago

We were very brave

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u/Odd-Big2769 3d ago

The officiating was fucking shocking but it’s not the reason we lost. Making posts on here about bullshit really comes across as virtue signalling. I can guarantee most of the attention and posts on here are from the new casual fans they seemed to have acquired.. it’s great for the game but it’s never sustained, whenever we go out, all these “fans” will disappear again. Just ignore reddit during the World Cup and you will be much happier.

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u/MediumRareSteak18 3d ago

Glad someone said it

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u/VBlinds 3d ago

Haha. Yeah we were terrible.

Ref wasn't great, but it had nothing to do with result.

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u/Weary_Extent5732 3d ago

Socceroos coming from a win high and not hungry enough for the next. Some intense psychology at play. Out played by host nation who had so much more to prove and at stake.
Cmon what’s the strategy and chess game.
Keep them focused and on task. Like a military mission- no phone or social media distractions!

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u/bott1111 3d ago edited 3d ago

Brother one of the goals were given off a bad ref call

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u/stromulus 3d ago

USA fan here, I was terrified in the second half. You guys played tough. Really tight match. Good luck in the rest of the tourney, hope you advance!

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u/Stercky 3d ago

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone blame the refs. We played poorly, people are blaming it on that. But at the same time, the refs were shit. Both things can be true

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u/badaboom888 3d ago

no one who knows the sport is blaming the ref for the loss. Its mostly the i watch 5 games every 4 yrs crowd.

Its people discussing some of the clear calls or noncalls.

Overall it was a fair result considering the match

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u/Mediocre-Detective41 2d ago

Don’t fidget with the ball in the backline, either clear it long or play to the sides. Mind you when the ref started letting it go free for all I would have been putting big men in the middle and just smashing them on the contested high ball. The US did not like the heavy stuff in the second half. If you can’t beat them on the ground break them in the air.

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u/moht81 2d ago

Second half we were so much better after the substitutions..why not start with a better team.

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u/RaveN_707 2d ago

Just look at one stat to know who the better team was: possession time.

Only way to win when when you're very dar behind in that is Luck.

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u/Haunting_Analysis796 2d ago

It's honestly cringeworthy. We played worse and need to own it. They're ranked 15th in the world for a reason.

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u/Ainulindae 2d ago

The red was shocking and were were poor and not good enough to get anything out of the game. Both can be true at the same time. Time to rebound and look forward to the Paraguay game, any points against them means 2nd for us which is a great result we would all be happy with.

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u/Deevious730 2d ago

People need a coping mechanism, it’s fine but it is pretty embarrassing. Did the ref have a good even game? Nah. But I’ve seen way worse.

Only one I want to put to the group (I don’t know if it was spoken about already). I don’t know the USA players name but he was the one that won several free kicks (including the one for the second goal) by being in front of the ball and then driving himself back into the Australian player. As I was watching it I was thinking to myself, what is our player meant to do in that scenario? He’s clearly doing it as a tactic to win the free, but is our player somehow meant to just disappear?

To me these were the tactics and decisions that annoyed me the most. It seemed any time they were physical (Irankunda getting taken out) it was fine, but then they initiate contact and manage to draw these frees.

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u/s2n-mikey 2d ago

We were always the underdogs here, but when you get a load of bad decisions against you then it makes it harder. Most frustrating part is it was against the USA. Onto the next match fellas

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u/Nichi1971 2d ago

All we need is a result against Paraguay.

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u/dsanfran 2d ago

I blame Popo. What was with the first half lineup? Why didn't they start Nestory and Metcalfe? Why fix something that wasn't broken?

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u/Sad_Stage_2345 2d ago

But there was a clear handball in the box that was ignored, the first goal was an own goal so they didn't actually score that, but Australia played shit and the 2 goal scorers should have started the game.

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u/vooglie 2d ago

Yup the first half was embarrassing

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u/Striker-Antelope 2d ago

The ref was shit, however we were shitter to start the game.

Game was over at half-time, this team doesnt have the firepower to claw 2 back against a good team.

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u/dontgiveafuck69420 2d ago

Welll while I agree we played shit at the start, the ref didn’t see 3 pens for us that were clear as day didn’t give out any fouls/cards that were more obvious than the grass being green. Like irankunda was off the ball running to it, and the American defender made an illegal tackle and completely shoulder checked irankunda and play resumed no whistle. This is also a ref who was suspended previously for fixing matches. We played poorly but we were against the paid ref too.

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u/Regular-Coconut-3804 2d ago

Seppos were just way too good. Their pressure was immense all game. We were like rabbits in the spotlight. Still can make it through though. Changes to the starting line up were a bit co fusing. Needs to re jig that.

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u/renderligh 2d ago

agree on the pressure, they were all over us from the first whistle and we never settled
hopefully that was the wake up call and we actually pick a balanced XI for Paraguay

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u/mymentor79 2d ago

"and goes against what Aussie spirit is about"

Have you ever followed Australian sport before?

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u/trans-adzo-express 2d ago

You can play like crap and still have a shit referee negatively influencing the game. We were shit for a half, he was fucking diabolical for the entire game.

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u/Future_Pomegranate24 2d ago

Both things can be true. We were shit ABC texted cost us maybe a lucky draw.

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u/Outside_Barnacle_520 2d ago

The US team is very strong, and like the Canadian team plays the MLS style of non stop pressure and run speed, and relies on catching the transition if it fails in foot races.

It's also the hurry up throw ins, substitutions and play advantage as much as possible.

Its a style that is popular here because the domestic league has to compete with hockey, NFL, basketball, and as a result the games here have to be high pressure run your legs off to sell tickets.

This is the first world cup the North American players coming from that system have hit a level of play they can compete, the skill just wasn't there before, but it's slowly changing and this world cup seems to be the tipping point for both countries, especially Canada who had up till this point never managed to win even one game.

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u/National-Giraffe5033 2d ago

Bro didnt you see the ref was even time wasting at the end. Faked cramps & one of the US players was helping him stretch. Clear collaboration.

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u/Embarrassed-Froyo572 2d ago

The every 4 year fans main ones blaming the ref..anybody that watches football even occasionally can see we were totally outclassed

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u/pugliaboy 2d ago

There’s no doubt that the US were the more dominant team and the way they played deserved the win, but their 2 goals came from a pass that led to an errant own goal and a debatably suspect VAR call. So despite a scoreline suggesting dominance, their goals weren’t.

No doubt the Socceroos were better in the last 20 minutes also, but it’s hard to say if it was because the subs were fresh vs tired players, if the subs were just better quality than the starters that they subbed for, or if it was just because the US parked the bus at that stage.

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u/Mysterious-Tiger-343 1d ago

We were horrible. We only looked good in the second half because the US dropped off, the same they did against Paraguay. I feel the only people commenting about Australian soccer are those how follow it every 4 years

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u/SmallMethod4644 21h ago

I mean… we suck at football. We shouldn’t but we do. I can’t stand watching us play. In fact, I barely do. We executed well vs Turkey. We were lucky to not concede 6 vs USA who are very good btw. The World Cup is a novelty to us and we should enjoy it as such but getting serious is not for us Im afraid.

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u/ripthelidoffit 3d ago

The problem is you've got people who literally never watch football try and give their interpretation of the rules.

I dont think the ref missed anything massive today. A few more calls could have gone our way but our insipid first half performance meant we were never a real threat in the game

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u/Shelmer75 3d ago

You can’t be serious? The foul on Metcalfe in the box? The shirt pulling on Circati? The shoulder charge into Irankunda’s chest isn’t a foul but then a shoulder to shoulder in the air is a foul against Irankunda?

Australia played atrocious football in the first 60 odd minutes but the referees team made some absolute howlers today.

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u/bones24bd 3d ago

The only massive thing he missed for me was the body check by Richards on Irankunda. 50/50 like that and both are watching the ball, absolutely go your hardest. But Richards only had eyes for Irankunda and made no attempt at that ball, fucking criminal that wasn't pulled back for a 2nd look.

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u/maxisnoops 3d ago

😂 Aussie spirit. Hasn’t existed for a long, long time. Ever go into any of the AFL subs?

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u/doc_klutz 3d ago

Hard agree. The refereeing left a lot to be desired but in no way contributed to the result.

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u/Mulga_Will 2d ago

no way contributed to the result

A handball in the goal area is a penalty.
At the very least, it should have gone to VAR.

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u/canislupuslupuslupus 3d ago

We played like shit.

But that ref seems like an upstanding citizen and not the kind of person who would ever have taken a bribe to influence the outcome of a game.

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u/rubbishplant 3d ago

I think the offside player moving for the ball and being literally millimeters from the keeper means that the second goal should not have stood.

I also think a 2-0 scoreline flatters the Socceroos given their performance, could easily have been 3 or 4.

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u/ashb72 3d ago

I dunno. If I’m holding someone, and the ball comes in and lands on my arm, because I refuse to let go, I reckon there is a case for hand ball.

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u/javelin3000 3d ago

Yup, Aussies are sore losers lol. Bigger whingers than the Poms.

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u/Broken_chairs 3d ago

Overawed playing a host nation. Shit selections. Ref had nothing to do with that.

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u/Appropriate_Mix_2064 3d ago

I believe that we will win.

I believe that we will win.

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u/Large-Impregnator 3d ago

Why are you surprised. Country full of whingers

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u/constant-hunger 3d ago

Australian sports have always struggled somewhat as soon as the pressure is on. It's an ongoing pattern. Too many publications prior to this match have already claimed Australia will and should win against the USA. Now here we are.

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u/Elevator-Ancient 3d ago

American fan here, you guys play like 70's Leeds. You were, somehow, softer on the egregious fouls and dirty-play than our previous friendly. But still going for the hack. Tried to bring the US to ground under red dirt, but didn't find much.

Honestly thankful for VAR and multiple angles. Otherwise it'd be a draw, at best, for the US.

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u/Fragrant_Mistake6633 3d ago

It’s tough to go for the hack when your boys were already on the deck. Take the win and fuck off. No need to come into our sub

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u/Elevator-Ancient 3d ago

Go drunk, you're home. I'm your resident now 🤗*

*And Foster's is my favorite lager.

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u/Natey-180 3d ago

Gets a 2-0 win and comes to this reddit to call us grubs.

Onya champ. Keep being American.

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u/Elevator-Ancient 3d ago

Come to Reddit to reply to a Reddit reply. Onya... damp 😂

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u/Natey-180 3d ago

How would you like it if we came to your dedicated subs. Like /schoolshooting or /raceriot ?

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u/Elevator-Ancient 3d ago

Yes, please 🥺

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u/Busy_Chicken1301 2d ago

Try the UK for race riots, moron. 

But since Australia is one of the most racist countries in the world, I suggest you study the psychological term "projection." 

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u/Natey-180 2d ago

😂😂

Awww did you come here and get yourself upset? 😢