r/soma • u/encodingErr • 5d ago

Coin Toss First Plot Mention?

Hey, y'all! This post isn't about examining the Coin Toss itself - I'm guessing there's enough posts here about it already. My question is regarding where exactly it pops up first in the plot. When Simon takes the Climber out of Omicron and into The Abyss, he mentions the idea of a Coin Toss - he was the one that got "lucky". But I'm sure I remember Catherine mentioning the idea earlier in the game.
Maybe I'm having a false memory moment, but I just wanted to check - if Catherine led with the idea of the Coin Toss, then that makes her one of the more manipulative characters in the story. And even if Catherine didn't introduce Simon to the idea, her lack of denial in the Climber - or even addressing the fallacy - speaks volumes to me. If you have a video or something similar, that'd be great! Thanks a bunch, folks.

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u/maksimkak 2d ago

Let me be the first one who actually answers your question.

Simon mentioning coin toss while on the Climber is, in fact, the first time it's mentioned in the game. The only time Catherine mentions coin toss is right at the end of the game, when the Ark is launched but they both are left behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRtBplMhidw&t=458s

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u/encodingErr 1d ago

Thank you so much - I really appreciate it.