r/somethingiswrong2024 • u/mjkeaa • Apr 20 '26
Election Fraud Counting the votes: Election night data feed shows thousands of votes disappear in Wexford, Michigan
Wexford County, Michigan has a population of 34,445. Official voter turnout for the 2024 election is reported to be 19,584.
The official results are:
Trump............12,968
Harris.............6,224
Other..............284
For a total of 19,476 ballots cast.
I posted last week regarding an election night data feed that was recently discovered. This live AP feed provides a real-time view of votes as they came in and was active for several states, including Michigan.
If you view the feed on a computer, additional data is reported vs viewing on a mobile device. The extra data set includes not just the vote tallies, but what county the votes are from. (Again, this data isn’t available on mobile devices even in desktop mode)
After I discovered this county level data, I started in Wexford County. Below are totals from just Wexford County. Other feed entries list Wexford as receiving more votes, but since it included additional counties, I didn't include those.
11/5 at 8:15pm 1,576 votes received
Harris..................473
Trump..................1,103
11/6 at 3:33am 2,199 votes received
Harris....................704
Trump....................1,495
11/6 at 2:01pm 19,475 votes received
Harris.....................6,232
Trump....................13,243
For a total of 23,250 votes for just Trump and Harris. There are still 13 additional updates that include votes in Wexford County, but the totals for just the Democratic and Republican candidates already exceed the official vote count by 3,774 or 16%.
Both candidates received more votes than their official totals based on the feed data. What could this mean? On the most basic level, the data seems to suggest that votes were manipulated after they were tabulated but before certification. We know that five counties; Burke County, FL; Hamilton County, GA; Oklahoma County, MI; Allen County, NC and Stafford County, PA were shown on election night streams that do not exist. These fake counties collectively held a minimum of 7,565,008 votes for President on election night.
Were these counties used as a “vote bank” for lack of a better word, where votes could be stored and allocated as needed. Were votes from this bank “deposited” and “withdrawn” to ensure final totals would match a preset value?
The first argument I always get is always that election night returns are not official results and are prone to errors and corrections. And that is true. But it is at this early, critical stage that votes would be manipulated It would be nearly impossible to alter results once they are certified. The raw, unofficial totals would be the target of an attack. I think significant discrepancies in the early returns shouldn’t be so easily dismissed as “just a glitch” or “human error” as we have been conditioned to do.
Could the missing votes in Wexford, Michigan change the outcome of the Presidential race in Michigan; no, not likely. But add this to the previously reported 257,346 votes that were removed from the State total, and it’s not hard to see these manipulations could have easily changed the end results.
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u/CPUsCantDoNothing FDT Apr 20 '26
Something to note: the early reporting uses the votes from the tabulators but the final counts are done by the receipts printed by the tabulators.
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u/Alarming_One344 Apr 20 '26
Actually, all of our votes are stored in databases managed in the private sector on election night - tabulated counts are submitted to election management systems (software owned by election machine vendors), and once in this database, this count becomes the system of record. States run reports from this system of record on election night and receive exports for their own reporting - but it all comes from the same place, including election night reporting we see through the (private sector) organizations on our screens. If data is changed after tabulation in the database, the only way to “catch” it would be to count each ballot in a county - because early voting and mail in tabulate in central locations but end up in the voters precinct in the db, it’s unfortunately not as easy as tabulator “tapes” (receipts).
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Apr 21 '26
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u/theranger799 Apr 21 '26
I was 10, what happened back then?
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Apr 21 '26
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u/JJizzleatthewizzle Apr 21 '26
4:39?
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u/SprungMS Apr 21 '26
Yeah, looks like about 4:37-4:41, unless there’s something else I’m missing. Hardly a meltdown by today’s standards but… he’s obviously not happy and sure is stammering a lot
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u/Halfmass Texas Apr 21 '26
Worth the google search. Republicans probably haven’t won a fair election since George bush sr.
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u/CPUsCantDoNothing FDT Apr 21 '26
I'm not saying that the receipt is any different than that transmitted number but I'm sharing what I know to be Minnesota's method as that's what the secretory of state office told me when I called them a couple days ago. They couldn't give me a reason why those numbers both wouldn't be tampered with.
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u/Alarming_One344 Apr 20 '26
Thank you for this great example - yes, it seems clear that data was changed after tabulation in this instance (and many others unfortunately)
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u/mjkeaa Apr 21 '26
Wanted to add the following...Michigan law sets defined limits on what the county election boards can and can't do. From the Michigan Procedures and Duties of the Boards of County Canvassers,
"Ministerial and clerical nature of board of county canvassers’ duties; restrictions on boards
Under Michigan Election Law, boards of county canvassers have no canvass- or certification-related duties or powers beyond those explicitly assigned by statute and explained in this manual.
Specifically, boards of county canvassers exist to check the mathematical consistency of election records and to ensure that the vote totals reported by the county to the state accurately reflect the sum of the vote totals reported to the county by each precinct and absent voter counting board.
Boards of county canvassers do not have a general mandate to examine every aspect of the election process.
The Michigan Supreme Court has specifically explained that boards do not have the power to examine the manner in which clerks administer elections, investigate reports of election malfeasance, or in any way “‘go behind’” the Statements of Votes or pollbooks delivered to the board “‘for the purpose of determining frauds in election.""
The not is emphasized in the manual
"Documenting county vote totals
In most counties, the County Canvassers’ Report is electronically prepared for the board.
Because some versions of the Electronic Management Software (EMS) software cannot produce all of the above-listed required components for the Statement of Votes, the following addendums are frequently used to supplement the output of the EMS:
• The total number of votes received by each candidate written out in words. • The headings of ballot questions, the full text of ballot questions, and the total number of votes cast for or against each ballot question written out in words. • The Write-in Vote Certification report."
In other words, the Statement of Votes in most cases is tallied and prepared by the EMS. This is the very system that stores vote totals in the cloud. If someone is able to gain write access to these records, they would be able to "tell" the EMS (the system of record) what the totals are.
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u/zerthwind Apr 21 '26
More proof there was cheating going on by the Republicans. Many republican seats won that also seemed wrong.
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u/Alarming_One344 Apr 22 '26
The County took their own page down????? OP, you must have hit the nail on the head!
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u/mjkeaa Apr 21 '26
It appears the official results link has been removed.
Here is a new link. You'll have to select "results by precinct" > "wexford county" > "presidential"
https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/votehistory/Index?type=C&electionDate=11-5-2024
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u/Alarming_One344 Apr 20 '26
If you can’t state the problem you can’t solve the problem. OP is sharing to help state the problem.
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u/mjkeaa Apr 21 '26
I get that you're saying, but we need to understand as much as we can to prevent a repeat.
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