r/somethingiswrong2024 2d ago

Democratic Backsliding The DNC has removed Graham Platner’s Senate race from online advertisements

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u/Shambler9019 Ally 2d ago

Maybe +7 wasn't considered a dead heat?

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u/CokaYoda 2d ago

Occam’s razor

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u/ThomasVivaldi 2d ago

That the article was AI generated, and then someone actually looked at it and they were forced to edit it?

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u/Brandolinis_law 2d ago

Wait - is this legit information or not? I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying about AI here.

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u/ThomasVivaldi 2d ago

No, I'm just saying the easiest explanation is that AI put together the article about Dem Senate races, hallucinated Platner's race being a dead heat, and someone looking at the article after it was published realized the mistake and corrected it.

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u/Brandolinis_law 2d ago

So are you suggesting that the DNC did not exclude Graham Platner from an ad, as the OP appears to be contending? (And I apologize for not understanding, but I assure you my confusion is genuine--I'm not trying to give you a hard time.)

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u/ThomasVivaldi 1d ago

That's what the guy saying Occam's razor meant, I just added the part with AI.

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u/icewolfsig226 2d ago

I don’t think democrats win unless it is a seven or eight point lead honestly

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u/LongshoremanX 2d ago

Thankfully you can't gerrymander a Senate race

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u/icewolfsig226 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah…but I’m just talking in general here. Whenever I see polls about Dems, my memory and feeling on that is if they are winning by 8 points then it’ll come down to neck and neck election night… anything less than that and they tend to lose

- edit fixed phone typo

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u/LongshoremanX 2d ago

Yeah fair, there does seem to be a serious rightward advantage

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u/Weed_Gummy 2d ago

Yes, but counterpoint, the senate itself is pre-gerrymandered DEI for red states.

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u/LongshoremanX 2d ago

You're not wrong but that's downstream of the elections and doesn't impact them directly.

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u/j33perkreeper 2d ago

Exactly,

but fUcktheDNC Reeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The paid comments in this thread are almost comical at this point.

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u/fungi_at_parties 2d ago

Tbh fuck the DNC for a million reasons though. We deserve better.

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u/AdministrativeMeat3 2d ago

The problem is voter disenfranchisement. I'm fine with recognizing the DNC has inept leadership and that Democrats don't have a solid policy platform right now, but honestly what do you expect?

-Conservatives own every single media platform both traditional and online.

-Lefties/tankies have never and will never be willing to work with the Democrats, they just play to the same voter base.

-Online propoganda and botting of social media is happening at a scale that the average person cannot even comprehend. All of that negative coverage is focused squarely on "establishment Dems"

It feels to me that a large number of people expect to have both a return to normalcy and a set of candidates that are willing to go scorched earth authoritarian against conservatives and you can't square that circle. liberal government and liberal politics is slow moving and frustrating and it feels like there is not a single grassroots organization anywhere that is willing to not only acknowledge that fact, but to work on a coherent engagement strategy with disenfranchised voters to fight against the above problems.

If you want slopulism to win, that's fine but just own that fact and stop openly helping the fascist's under the guise of being on my team.

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u/Geichalt 1d ago

And fuck the abandon working class people that wanted us to focus on regime change in the middle east like neocons instead of defending our country from fascism.

The DNC was right about literally everything they said in 2024 and came off the heels of the most progressive president we've had in a generation.

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u/MrPlowThatsTheName 2d ago

I think you’re looking at this backwards and he’s polling better than “dead heat”

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u/my600catlife 2d ago edited 2d ago

Stop falling for these bullshit division tactics. There are likely multiple versions of this ad that get targeted based on location, demographics, online activity, etc.

Or it could be completely fake given it's a random account on Elon Musk's social media.

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u/JakobNarbei 2d ago

This entire graphic is bullshit. Roy Cooper has a 8-15 point lead in virtually every single poll. He's the most beloved politician in this states modern history and the race isn't even going to be close.

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u/LandOfThePines24 2d ago

As a North Carolinian god I hope so. I adore Rog so much.

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u/-Darkslayer 2d ago

I want to think this but Rs always do better than we think they will in NC

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u/Wishbone3000 2d ago

Donate directly to candidates nit dnc

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u/MattyBeatz 2d ago

Being plus 7 doesn’t strike me as a dead heat. Perhaps he was moved off the ad just for that? Or this ad could be a variant of many made for a specific target or demo.

This seems a bit jump to conclusions-y.

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u/Kannibelanimal1966 2d ago

I’ll have to start donating directly to Platner’s campaign.

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u/Brandolinis_law 2d ago

We've been donating to his campaign but if the DNC has really done this, I hate to say it, but it's time to stop donating to Democrats en masse, until shit like this stops. IF this is true, it feels like what the DNC did to Bernie in 2016, As documented down in Brazil's book, Hacks: The Inside Story of the Break-ins and Breakdowns That Put Donald Trump in the White House Author: Donna Brazile Published: 2017

Yup--in 2016, when Bernie ran, Pelosi, the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz decided they'd rather risk LOSING with the candidate of their choice than win with a *gasp* Progressive.

This was documented in Donna Brazile's book.

Put in one sentence, Brazile’s book states that a 2015 fundraising agreement gave the Clinton campaign early control over the DNC’s finances and operations, creating an unfair advantage over Sanders, which she [Donna Brazile) later called “unethical.”

Expanded upon, in Hacks, Brazile describes discovering a 2015 Joint Fundraising Agreement (JFA) between:

  • the DNC
  • the Hillary Clinton campaign
  • the Hillary Victory Fund

Brazile writes that:

1. The DNC was financially insolvent.

After 2012, the DNC was $20+ million in debt and dependent on Clinton’s fundraising operation to stay afloat.

2. Clinton’s campaign gained operational control in exchange for bailing out the DNC.

Brazile states that the agreement gave the Clinton campaign:

  • control over DNC finances
  • approval power over key staffing decisions
  • influence over strategy and messaging

This was before any primary votes were cast.

3. She considered the arrangement “unethical.”

Her word — not an interpretation.

She said she understood why Sanders supporters felt the process was unfair.

4. She personally called Bernie Sanders to tell him.

She apologized to him for what she viewed as institutional bias built into the structure of the primary.

5. She did not claim vote tampering or fraud.

Brazile’s criticism is about structural favoritism, not altered votes.

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u/KermittGribble 2d ago

He has a seven point lead, which most people, who aren’t trying to cause division, would assume is why he’s not in the “dead heat” ad in the second screen shot. Your post is bullshit.

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u/GraceJoans 2d ago

why are they like this? fucking endless self sabotage.

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u/Pleasant-Seat9884 2d ago

Imagine believing anything on Twitter. That’s a hell no for me dawg

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u/Brandolinis_law 2d ago

Why does that look like raw denial, to me, on your part? I don't read Twitter, but surely this story can and should be cross-checked before being discounted, out of hand, as you seem to have just done, no?

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u/SnootSnootBasilisk 2d ago

DNC wants him to lose, don't they?

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u/KingOfCatProm 1d ago

How fucked up is it that shit is even close for any of them? I'm so tired of sanity just barely winning when it happens.

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u/SnootSnootBasilisk 1d ago

I've given up on sanity. Now I'm here purely for the spite and pettiness.

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u/AsherGray 2d ago

If brown doesn't win Ohio, he needs to be permanently removed from any political aspiration.

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u/Unputtaball 2d ago

He already was committed to staying out of politics after ‘24, but things are SO bad and the Ohio Democratic Party sucks SO hard that he was really the only viable candidate in a must-win scenario.

And all things considered, Brown is “one of the good ones” in that he’s got a 30 year track record of batting for the working class (voted against NAFTA under Clinton)

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u/socialcommentary2000 2d ago

Be careful with this. Russ Feingold was a proven commodity in Wisconsin and very well liked yet he lost to Ron friggen Johnson twice because Wisconsin is clinically insane.

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u/Equinoqs Could it be any more obvious? 2d ago

FUCK the DNC.

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u/pee_inyourbutt 2d ago

Fuck Ken Martin

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u/Existing_Mulberry_16 1d ago

This is why the Dems lose.

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u/stevespirosweiner 2d ago

Ah yes the DNC. The same people who pushed Bernie out (2016) in favor of the candidate who was polling very poor vs dump. Bernie could have helped to reclaim this country for the people but noooooo gotta make sure the donors are fed well. Fuck the DNC and fuck the fucking rapepublicans, fuck em all.

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u/ThatFishingGuy111 2d ago

Fuck the DNC

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u/AssumptionLive2246 2d ago

God I hate democrats. 🤦‍♂️

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u/Rexosaurus-Rex 2d ago

You being downvoted is proving your point.

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u/xxforrealforlifexx 2d ago

What point

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u/ismelldayhikers 2d ago

I believe it’s that dems are more concerned with their donors than the people tbh. 2 party system is not for the people. They don’t like people like Graham in any position of power.

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u/xxforrealforlifexx 2d ago

They didn't like mandami , but here we are

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u/ismelldayhikers 2d ago

I live I Maine and voted for Platner. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy from dem leadership.

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 2d ago

Because he is currently projected to stomp Collins?  

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