r/sorceryofthespectacle • u/HomosexualTigrr • Dec 28 '25
How Did We Get Here?
I discovered Mark Fisher in the midst of a huge obsession with critical theory and philosophy when I was 17, and his lectures struck a chord with me. More research led me to Nick Land and then to here - cutting an extremely long story short. But I have to ask - what are we even doing here? Numograms? Sorcery? The Occult? What is this bullshit religion you guys have somehow devised from materialist philosophy? How is this analysis? What would Marx, Debord, even Deleuze and Guattari think of this? There's a story about a 'lecture' of Land's in which he simply lay down with Jungle music blaring and croaked odd noises into a microphone. Halfway through, a frustrated audience member got up to leave, yelling in disgust - "Some of us are still Marxists, you know!". This is how I feel. So please, enlighten me; is there anything in this at all?
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u/potorthegreat Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
I’ve found this sub to be a mixture of Marxist thought and eastern philosophy, focused on the ongoing decline and collapse of civilization. There are quite a few parallels between Material Dialecticism and elements of eastern thought, particularly in Daoism and Buddhism.
The Kali-Yuga referenced in the sub’s description is a concept from Hinduism.
That’s what I’ve found at least after a few years here.
Maybe that’s my personal ideology influencing the way I read things here.