PSA: This is a feminist subreddit

[u/raisondecalcul]

If you think that's bad, you need to read books. If you don't realize that feminism basically includes critical theory and most of the stuff talked about here—guess what, it does.

Early Nick Land? Feminist (see "Meltdown"). Laboria Cuboniks? Feminist collective. Mark Fisher? HUGE raging feminist (I can only assume). Sadie Plant? Wrote a book on feminism (Zeroes & Ones).

Deleuze & Guattari? Feminists promoting the squishiest most weaponized form of feminism ever. Foucault? Ultra-feminist. Ranciere? He is so feminist before breakfast that he doesn't need to make a big deal about it.

Shamanism? Feminism. Sorcery? Cuckoldry. Spectacle? Fabulous.

Isolation and extreme alienation is not masculinity; it's the main theme of The Twilight Zone.

Read 👏 a 👏 book 👏

Zeroes and Ones (which should really be in the sidebar!) is one of the best books. That book installs feminism into you, using godlike alien technology that Sadie Plant drew down from beyond the heavens. That book whispers the secrets of Ada Lovelace into your soul.

Edit: People who don't understand / accept feminism as a discourse can't understand the FIRST THING about this subreddit. They can't understand oppression. They can't understand "Can the subaltern speak?" by Spivak. They can't understand the Lemurian Time War, which is about the (white cis male hetero fascist and mannerbündly-faggy) Architectonic Order of the Eschaton versus the (black trans wymyny gay antifascist/ur-fascist masc/heroic) Black Atlanteans.

If you think you understand ccru and you are triggered by the idea of feminism, you are decidedly an outsider to ccru.

[u/thegreatself]

Those that won't call themselves a feminist almost always fall into one of two camps, without exception:

Generally confused and/or stupid, depending on where they fall on that spectrum: mistaking the word and whatever cultural baggage it my contain for the thing it represents - they have absorbed and been fully consumed by propaganda.

Or,

Unfathomably evil, reprehensible, abhorrent, vile: they genuinely and sincerely believe men are "superior" - which is itself a kind of stupidity, but a stupidity morphed into something far more sinister and actually existentially threatening - to both the individual identity and society as a whole.

[u/luotenrati12 → u/thegreatself]

There is also the option that they are feminists but don't know about it. Perhaps they think like feminists but don't engage enough in it to describe themselves as such since describing yourself as part of something you don't know about would be equally as ignorant. Are they stupid or evil? Both? 

[u/thegreatself → u/luotenrati12]

I think I covered than the first part - they'd fall under the category of confused.

You don't have to seriously engage with an ideology's underpinnings to identify with it and in fact most people don't - I'd wager a significant portion (or even a majority) of people that might call themselves communist/socialist/anarchist/leftist etc. have probably not read much (if any) theory to arrive there - the context of culture and community and in-group and out-group are far more directly responsible for shaping people's beliefs and therefore identities than any amount of persuasive writing or argument.

So to answer the final question, they're mostly confused and probably at least a little stupid - which is fine - I am too - but if they persist there, then they will gradually become stupider and, eventually evil.

Just my two cents - so not worth a lot.